WW2 even how tiring it is was still popular, if not COD WAW wouldnt be a million seller on both consoles in its 1st week.

The real question is... is MOH: H2 only sold 500,000 so far wasnt because Wii owners dont like PSP port but because FPS arent popular genre on the Wii to begin with? COD WAW wasnt a PS2 port like COD 3 did and yet it didnt sell well. And most Wii owners dont hang out on sites like these and believe in reviews. So how come? COD WAW was much better than MOH: H2

And as for The Conduit, Im only a wii owner too and I want a good fps game on the wii, but doesnt mean Im willing to wait for weeks or even months just to play a decent FPS game with online even there are other games I can play with. If we really want a good FPS game then play the ones that we have like COD WAW, Red Steel, MOH: H2, QoS, COD 3, etc... than just wait and wait.

Im not really picky with my choice of games as long as it plays decent like other Wii owners too.

I think I'll conclude my posts right now, I have nothing more to say.

Any clue why they delayed it to May? Any chance of local multiplayer now?

Call of Duty World at War's fantastic sales are because it's the hotly anticipated sequel to Call of Duty 4, a game that removed itself from World War 2 and because of a series of gameplay decisions transcended it's predecessors in the COD series. Of course, the COD 5 anticpating crowd played COD 4 on the 360 and PS3.  The last COD on the Wii was 3, a launch game that got mixed reviews and outsold the PS3 version in America.

But of course we're talking about COD 5 sales after only a week or two, and I know that you yourself like to point out how Wii games don't have the front loaded sales of the other consoles. Don't you have a thread that talks about COD 5 Wii, Quantom of Solace and Nerf N Strike? So far COD WAW is selling better than MoH: H2. 

So then on to MOH:2. The first thing I notice is that you change tactics and start to talk about why the game didn't sell more. Is this a sales discussion or a quality discussion? If the whole point of this thread all along has been that you don't think the Conduit will sell well, then that's an entirely different argument. Looking at the two games side by side, I see one spin off sequel standard WW2 shooter with mediocre graphics and online play that is lacking voice chat and one original IP with strong graphics, interesting gameplay ideas and voice chat multiplayer. There are plenty of reasons why the Conduit would attract more attention to itself than MoH: 2 heroes.

You then say

If we really want a good FPS game then play the ones that we have like COD WAW, Red Steel, MOH: H2, QoS, COD 3, etc... than just wait and wait. 

Being in the same genre doesn't mean they're the same thing. Why wait for Killzone 2 when you can go out and get Fracture right now?

People are waiting for this game because they want to play this game. Because it looks like a good game, and most of the games in this genre so far for Wii haven't been very good games.

LOL I knew you will say about the sales of COS WAW, QoS, and MOH: H2. Just to explain it, having legs doesnt mean theres a huge userbase regarding these franchise. I did say 1 million on its lifetime but definitely not a multi million seller like COD 4 and Halo 3 did. Im just glad that COD WAW wasnt really a total flop as everyone thinks, but still have far far lower sales than HD console versions.

Which means Activision are profiting from this to warrant a sequel which is more important...

We're discussing the disappointment the game in spite of then hype here, not the game itself, if not I will just say worth the wait but I included the HYPE

and with that, I conclude this I just want to explain about the sales. Just to let you know, do you want the sales of The Conduit to be in De Blob level? Even with the hype it receives? Im talking to you stof, DO YOU? Because you put the Nerf N-Strike and QoS into this SERIOUSLY, DO YOU?

@Yushire: Instead of arguing here for nothing, could you explain why people shouldn't wait for Conduit?

Because there are other good games on the system this year and the coming year to wait to other than the conduit? And there are good FPS games already system sure theyre not AAA, or even A maybe B but how can we possibly knew that The Conduit is A?
Theres no reason to wait, the quality games are already here, we just dont noticed it. Of course, it doesnt mean we dont have to buy the conduit but many people says "Im waiting for the conduit" than buy other games on the system I dont know why but thats whats their thinking.

Unless theres a multiplayer modes other than CTF like Sabotage, zombie mode, search and destroy, vehicles, online co-op, splitscreen multiplayer with bots, etc... then SURE wait for The Conduit even I want to wait and ignore other games on the system like COD WAW even the game was good but as far I dont see anything special on the Conduit.

So the point of this thread is sales based now... Yushire you keep jumping around all over the place. Could you maybe start fresh with a clear opinion? Because it's really hard to track down what on earth your trying to say.

I refered to those games you mention because you yourself started a thread about how you think those games will sell a lot, and then in this thread said that those games are bombing. Were it not for your two threads I wouldn't have said anything about them, as I have no idea what they have to do with the Conduit.

We're discussing the disappointment the game in spite of then hype here, not the game itself, if not I will just say worth the wait but I included the HYPE

Again, this is the problem. You keep talking about the Hype, Hype being the latin word for "whatever Yushire wants it to be" I keep saying the Conduit is a new IP Wii exclusive great looking game with lots of effort put in to it in a genre that is bettered by Wii controls but largely ignored on the Wii. Thats lots of reason for people to be hyping this game. But your statements would suggest that wanting to play this game equates to thinking it's the videogame Messiah. 

I think that The Conduit will break a million life time. Don't know how much more though. Again, I mentioned the Ner and Bond games only because of your other thread (actually, you mentioned Quantom of solace first, in some bizarre point that people shouldn't wait for the Conduit because there were other FPS's released)

So take bdbdbd's suggestion. Why shouldn't people want to wait for this game (you also make a big point of the fact that we need to wait a few months for it to come out, as if you don't normally have to wait for months or years for video games to come out)

Look Yushire. I'm not trying to have an argument, or even a debate, just a discussion. There are no winners or losers. you don't have to feel the need that conceding anything or changing your opinion is a failure. Your original statment just doesn't seem to make much sense. And the more it's picked apart, the more you try to change the original framework to bolster your claim. You asked a question, we gave an answer. 

He really, really, really doesn't want people to anticipate buying Conduit so he can justify a reason why the game doesn't sell in the event that the pre-game hype doesn't match post-release sales.

Personally, I just don't think there's a huge market for high end (by Wii standards) FPS games. If there was, MP3 probably would have had a higher attach rate, given the quality of that title.

Most gamers who are really into FPS games either own a PS3, 360, PC or any combination of the three.

I bought a Wii with the idea in mind that there would be some excellent light gun style FPS games, but two years later, it really hasn't happened and I'd just as soon get my FPS yayas out on any of the big three platforms.

Jeez, it's a frigging FPS with aliens, you can't get them any more generic.

People who are waiting for this are doing so because of the controls! RE4Wii was awesome because of the controls and there are loads of people (like me) who hate Dual Analog for shooters.

This game is not hyped because it's the second coming of Zelda, it's hyped because it's a third party game that looks great and has Wii Mote controls that are completely customizable. In short: it's looks to become a quality shooter that makes full use of Wii's capabilities.

SURE... OK THEN, stof just to end this. But if the game sells only in Wii Music or De Blob level and it only have average reviews and if this turns out to be a average game even with all the hype then I just dont know...

Thats why Im buying COD WAW sure its a average game but atleast Im playing a good FPS game on my Wii than have to wait for 6 months just to play a game that I could be disappointed with...

Sure, we have to wait for it but like I said in the other posts what if this game turned into another Assasin's Creed and Star Wars FU?

Just remember even how much you say about The Conduit the hype for this game was in Gears or Halo level, atleast for Wii owners it is... You cant deny it. This is the most talked about game on the Wii, and the userbase of the Wii was in almost 37 million so far...

I just hope Im wrong.

THERE, I said it I summarized all my posts in one post, if you still dont understand then I dont know.

And BTW, I( didnt include the modes in this game why Wii owners are willing to wait for the conduit than buy COD WAW. So is The Conduit have zombie mode, vehicles, sabotage, search and destroy, online co-op, splitscreen multiplayer with bots, 2-player campaign, etc...?