The show ain't over yet until the fat lady sings.

What do I think?

I think that if you wanted 360 exclusives to flop, this is a very sad time in your life.

Now, speaking on HD consoles only:

It's SLIGHTLY too early to call the Americas for MS, but it's getting past the point of no return here. Sony refuses to compete, and soon they won't be able to do so, even if they wanted.

Yes.  You cannot discount the Wii because buying one is $250 less to spend on another console.  You have PS3 fanboys discounting the Wii as a competitor.  You also have 360 fanboys doing the same thing.  Heck, Microsoft did it.  PS3 should take a cue from SONY since SONY regconized both Nintendo and Microsoft as competitors.  And Wii fanboys like the use the 360 against the PS3 as revenge since SONY sold the most consoles last two gens.  This blatant rabid fanboyism = not good.

If you remember correctly, I don't think Microsoft discounted the Wii. Rather they embraced it, and I wonder if it was clever marketing to hurt PS3 sales (since it is the direct competitor with the 360, offering similar services). Wasn't it Peter Moore who coined "Wii60". They knew the Wii was after a different market, so what better way to capture the same market as the PS3 and making the 360 and Wii pals who are meant to be together. Extremely smart if you ask me.

I think MS feels they have pretty much done what they needed to to gain marketshare away from the PS3, and now they are after the Wii's audience. NXE proves that. They've moved on and they are not looking back.

How many times have we heard "PS3's year is next year" or "wait for X game".
M$ seem to have used the cards they have at the right time.

It seems with the glowing reviews of HD stream quality via Netflix that BLU RAY is not a selling point in America anymore. Not having to use a crappy old tech like disc and store them on a shelf is brilliant. Afterall how many times must we change bloody meda and have to buy all 400 films all over again. Netflix subscription saves alot of money.

I call it right here right now that the PS3 is 3rd by end of gen. For those that dont agree, when is it time that you call it? Because the gap since launch of PS3 was 5.5 mill. Now 2 years after launch nearly and the gap is 5.94mill. By Summer I expect to se nearly 7 mill.

I think Netflix is gonna help alot more than we all envisioned in the beginning. And M$ help they may even help get licenses sorted for more new releases to.

If you remember correctly, the bigger picture is that Microsoft as a whole in the console industry claimed that they were not competing with Nintendo.  This first happened with the Gamecube.  When the original Xbox was third worldwide while specificly in second in sales in N.A. and Europe. Microsoft NEVER claimed that they were second worldwide behind the PS2.  They only claimed they were second in N.A. and Europe.  It was only when Xbox sales in N.A. and Europe were great enough to push it over worldwide Gamecube sales is when they said they were second worldwide.  Go figure.  They took this metality that Nintendo console's were targeted to a different audience first with the Gamecube and then with the Wii.  And it's really easy to discount that one thing Moore said especially when he's not with the Xbox division anymore to head EA Sports to help assure quality PS3 software (which he is doing).  Of course Microsoft has now conceded first to the Wii's lead.  So it wasn't just trying to gain marketshare from the PS3 because they always knew that Nintendo was a company they had to deal with, but their outward arrogance (like SONY's) had a price to pay.

Sorry to go off topic, but why would you say that?

What do you have against other people enjoying games?

"They knew the Wii was after a different market"

this is so freaking ....grrrr

its the same market

video games


anything breaking it don isnt really trth

b/c n that case the 360 is really competing with the ps3 b/c the people that the ps3 are targeting are the ones that want hi def movies with a little game thrown in

and teh 360 is targeting really only the core american gamer

see or we could say they arent competing b/c the 360 is going after teh people that like green and white machines while teh ps3 is going after people that like black hardware


its stupid and pointless

they all three want you to spend money on the machines and not on the others...nin is just better at getting new monies at the moment

There will always be movie collectors, and as of now, the infastructure of streaming HD movies cannot accomodate all the features a Blu-ray has to offer.  Streaming will do more damage to the rental industry than the physical purchases of movies.  If you want to own a movie, you will buy a physcial copy because there is far more flexability in it.  Apparently, you haven't read the glowing reviews of the picture quality, sound quality, and extra features only a Blu-Ray can provide.

still a shame about hd dvd was such a better format to start on, but its a mute point b/c blu ray has gotten so much better