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tuoyo said:
I have to say I disagree. I don't see why a game has to be HD to be enjoyed fully. Galaxy is still one of the greatest games this gen and would remain so till the end of the gen. I think developers stick to HD because it is much easier to sell pretty looks than quality gameplay. Also I have never had any problem reading anything on Wii. In fact I am pretty sure text in NES were completely readable.

However, I agree 100% that HD movies aren't what they were/are hailed to be.

 

Games that try to portray realism benefit from HD graphics and console power. Case in point COD4. There is a fanbase for such games too. I have a friend that I converted into gaming just because he though cod4 really looked like the war in Iraq.

Galaxy isn't like this. Would you consider COD:WaW Wii to be on par with the PS360 version?

I would cosign on the movie part but I was never a big movie fan anyway. I last went to the movie theater in 2006.



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tuoyo said:
I have to say I disagree. I don't see why a game has to be HD to be enjoyed fully. Galaxy is still one of the greatest games this gen and would remain so till the end of the gen. I think developers stick to HD because it is much easier to sell pretty looks than quality gameplay. Also I have never had any problem reading anything on Wii. In fact I am pretty sure text in NES were completely readable.

However, I agree 100% that HD movies aren't what they were/are hailed to be.

You don't need HD, but it sure helps! It makes the entire experience more enjoyable.



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HD-gaming? Wuz that? I have been gaming more than 4 years with resolution 1024p+. So what was the HD you were talking about? 720p or so?.. :D



bardicverse said:

The other thought is to get a big HD monitor that I can plug the Xb360 into, like one of those 32 inch monitors, then I can at least say Im using it for my computer as well. =) We'll see what my options are like in the Spring. I imagine the prices will cool off a bit more by then

I would actually discourage going that big unless you've got a high-end PC rig or the means to upgrade. When you start getting into the 30"+ LCD PC monitor range you're talking about resolution capabilities that far exceed the current gen consoles and TVs, such as 1440p & 1600p displays (e.g., 2560x1600 WQXGA). What happens with such "Extreme HD" displays is that you'll now be upscaling 1080p and comparable (1920x1200 WUXGA) resolution content, which kind of puts you right back where you were before; you lose that fine per-pixel definition you were trying to achieve in the first place.

I think you want to get a true HD TV, or at least stay under that 30" WQXGA LCD barrier on the PC side.

 



Pristine20 said:
tuoyo said:
I have to say I disagree. I don't see why a game has to be HD to be enjoyed fully. Galaxy is still one of the greatest games this gen and would remain so till the end of the gen. I think developers stick to HD because it is much easier to sell pretty looks than quality gameplay. Also I have never had any problem reading anything on Wii. In fact I am pretty sure text in NES were completely readable.

However, I agree 100% that HD movies aren't what they were/are hailed to be.

 

Games that try to portray realism benefit from HD graphics and console power. Case in point COD4. There is a fanbase for such games too. I have a friend that I converted into gaming just because he though cod4 really looked like the war in Iraq.

Galaxy isn't like this. Would you consider COD:WaW Wii to be on par with the PS360 version?

I would cosign on the movie part but I was never a big movie fan anyway. I last went to the movie theater in 2006.

To be honest I was going to get this game if it got great reviews but would have done so on Wii rather than 360 simply because the Wii remote would make it a much more enjoyeable experience than pretty graphics with a control pad.  I have been playing Fallout 3 and can't stand aiming with the controller (so use the VATS combat system as long as I have enough Action Points). And I downloaded the Left 4 dead demo and couldn't enjoy the game at all because of using a controller to aim. 

Okay I have gone somewhat off topic.  COD: WaW with PS360 graphics and Wii control would be much better than what COD with Wii graphics so on that basis I agree that graphics can make game better.  I just don't agree with those who can't enjoy a game unless it is on a HD console as if before this gen no good game existed.

 



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drpunk said:
bardicverse said:
The other thought is to get a big HD monitor that I can plug the Xb360 into, like one of those 32 inch monitors, then I can at least say Im using it for my computer as well. =) We'll see what my options are like in the Spring. I imagine the prices will cool off a bit more by then

You can plug PCs into HD TVs.

So really it comes down to if you want a screen that has a tv receiver in it or not.

 

What I meant is that I could get a HD monitor and put it in my computer/studio room and leave my SDTV in the living room and let it continue to reign there. As for a TV receiver, def don't need that. Even my SDTV is used strictly for gaming, and maybe watching some Robot Chicken when I remember to. With a 360, I don't need to get up and move around like with the Wii, so I can chill and play from my computer chair.  Hmmm now Im thinking about a wall mounted computer monitor. Hotness.

 



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Dryden said:
bardicverse said:

The other thought is to get a big HD monitor that I can plug the Xb360 into, like one of those 32 inch monitors, then I can at least say Im using it for my computer as well. =) We'll see what my options are like in the Spring. I imagine the prices will cool off a bit more by then

I would actually discourage going that big unless you've got a high-end PC rig or the means to upgrade. When you start getting into the 30"+ LCD PC monitor range you're talking about resolution capabilities that far exceed the current gen consoles and TVs, such as 1440p & 1600p displays (e.g., 2560x1600 WQXGA). What happens with such "Extreme HD" displays is that you'll now be upscaling 1080p and comparable (1920x1200 WUXGA) resolution content, which kind of puts you right back where you were before; you lose that fine per-pixel definition you were trying to achieve in the first place.

I think you want to get a true HD TV, or at least stay under that 30" WQXGA LCD barrier on the PC side.

 

Thanks for the info, some definite things to consider there. Until my SDTV gives up the ghost, I can't betray it and toss a perfectly good TV. Its been around for 16 years, so its like an old friend to me. Do you know how much porn gaming that tv has provided me with? =)

Hmm, maybe I'll look ino something on  the 28' monitor side, since that'd be somewhat cheaper.

@tuoyo - I do agree with you, that it comes down to gameplay of course. Some games that are multiplat just might be more fun with Wii controls. I wil get COD5 for Wii. Id likely use the 360 to cover the games that I cant get on Wii, like RE5 and the sort.

 



Man you "HD Gamers" always make me laugh. I've been a PC based gamer since I was 9. I got 23 years in PC style gaming. I was there durring the progression from 2 colors to 4 colors to 16 > 256 > 16bit >True Color. I was there during the 320x240 res days to playing 1700x1500apx(exactness so doesn't matter) wide screen.

All I gotta say after all these miles of walking the graphics road it's all pretty meh. Of course there is indeed where it is better. Mostly in regards to text, but a game like LBP will be good regardless of HD or not.

If I really thought HD was that important I wouldn't be playing console games ever. I would have been pretty happy with the countless games released yearly on PC.



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Don't blame SD gaming because moronic programmers don't care about making text legible. That's not the fault of 480p at all.

HD has nothing to do with the processing power (poly count, etc.) of the new systems vs. Wii. They look better because more power is behind them -- the lines of resolution is just a bonus.

Any PC gamer has had access to better resolution for years -- it's not a big deal at all. The details/build of the game/framerate are. It's just easier for people to understand WHOA HD now, and it's marketed so hard that people want to believe it's some kind of amazing revolution.

OP doesn't know what he's talking about anyway, since CRT is still way better picture technology than LCD. AND CRT MONITORS ARE HD. I have a 21" CRT comp monitor in the basement that eats fixed-pixel monitors for breakfast.

Look on craigslist for HD CRTs -- they only go up to 36" 4x3 or 34" 16:9 but seriously giangantic TVs are just silly -- everything but 1080p looks like yuck, and I can't believe how many people think they need a TV that takes up their whole wall, and SD stuff still looks awesome unlike new techs.