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darkhaven63 on 10 November 2008
Riachu said:
Soriku said:
@Riachu

Is IU even that good of a game? =/

I never played it but from what I know, it is not all that great.  The game seems to suffer from serious design issues and a severe lack of polish probably as a result of the game's rushed development period.  Just because it is not that good doesn't mean it can't sell well.  Look at 50 Cent Bulletproof.  It was terrible yet it sold over a million copies though I think the "50 Cent" title might have something to do with it.

 

 Or perhaps it has to do with hype. Or something >_>

 



   

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Kasz216 on 10 November 2008
Naum said:
wfz said:
Jo21 said:
hmm aren't the wii and 360 free region for games too?

if you eager just import them-

 

You have to mod your Wii system to make it region free, it normally isn't supposed to be. I'm not sure about the 360, but I'd assume the same for that system.

 

360 is region free but the game developers can deside if they want their game to region locked or not, Veperia is region locked but Lost Oddessey for example was not.

I wonder if Super Robot Wars 360 is region locked...

 



Kasz216 on 10 November 2008
Soriku said:
@Riachu

Is IU even that good of a game? =/

 

The commercial wasn't any good i'll tell you that much.



Zucas on 10 November 2008

I predict Fire Emblem like sales for ToS: DotNW. Not amazing sales but decent around 350k-400k. That should be enough to warrant it to Europe if it's not already planned for there. I don't think it'll go platinum but should still sell well. Game has some decent brand in America and tied to the Ninty platforms so it sounds like it should be able to sell off of that but it could also do less than 200k in America. So tough call but we'll see I guess.



noname2200 on 10 November 2008
mike_intellivision said:
noname2200 said:
Khuutra said:

Do you have a citation/link on that comment by Namco's PR people? I don't doubt they may have felt that way (that seems to be the third party reaction to the Wii -- then they wonder why they don't get sales). But to actually say it publicly would be stupid. Mike from Morgantown

I'm having trouble tracking down the "budget" quote, but the "spinoff" one can be found here.

http://www.gamespot.com/wii/rpg/talesofsymphonia2/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-42778459&pid=942210

 

Tsutomu Gouda: First, I have to say that the relationship between Destiny 1 and 2, and Symphonia and Dawn, is very different. Destiny 1 and 2 formed one complete whole, but Dawn doesn't have a "2" attached to it; we consider it to be a spinoff title.

 

Speaking personally, that was the moment when alarm bells started sounding in my head. Why would you refer to your own product like that...?

 



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ClaudeLv250 on 10 November 2008
noname2200 said:
mike_intellivision said:
noname2200 said:
Khuutra said:

Do you have a citation/link on that comment by Namco's PR people? I don't doubt they may have felt that way (that seems to be the third party reaction to the Wii -- then they wonder why they don't get sales). But to actually say it publicly would be stupid. Mike from Morgantown

I'm having trouble tracking down the "budget" quote, but the "spinoff" one can be found here.

http://www.gamespot.com/wii/rpg/talesofsymphonia2/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-42778459&pid=942210

 

Tsutomu Gouda: First, I have to say that the relationship between Destiny 1 and 2, and Symphonia and Dawn, is very different. Destiny 1 and 2 formed one complete whole, but Dawn doesn't have a "2" attached to it; we consider it to be a spinoff title.

 

Speaking personally, that was the moment when alarm bells started sounding in my head. Why would you refer to your own product like that...?

 

Alarm bells? Not quite, it' been an escort title from the start and I told people that, but that certainly doesn't mean it's bad.

Generally escort titles are smaller in scope and a bit experimental for the franchise, but DotNW seems to be the 'biggest' spinoff in the series to date. All the other escort titles are usually restricted to handhelds.

On the subject of advertising... Namco really needs to get with it. They never advertise their Tales games. I thought Symphonia would have changed their minds after it sold through some miracle, but they didn't advertise Legendia or Abyss either. DotNW is just the latest victim. 



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Riachu on 10 November 2008
ClaudeLv250 said:
noname2200 said:
mike_intellivision said:
noname2200 said:
Khuutra said:

Do you have a citation/link on that comment by Namco's PR people? I don't doubt they may have felt that way (that seems to be the third party reaction to the Wii -- then they wonder why they don't get sales). But to actually say it publicly would be stupid. Mike from Morgantown

I'm having trouble tracking down the "budget" quote, but the "spinoff" one can be found here.

http://www.gamespot.com/wii/rpg/talesofsymphonia2/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-42778459&pid=942210

 

Tsutomu Gouda: First, I have to say that the relationship between Destiny 1 and 2, and Symphonia and Dawn, is very different. Destiny 1 and 2 formed one complete whole, but Dawn doesn't have a "2" attached to it; we consider it to be a spinoff title.

 

Speaking personally, that was the moment when alarm bells started sounding in my head. Why would you refer to your own product like that...?

 

Alarm bells? Not quite, it' been an escort title from the start and I told people that, but that certainly doesn't mean it's bad.

Generally escort titles are smaller in scope and a bit experimental for the franchise, but DotNW seems to be the 'biggest' spinoff in the series to date. All the other escort titles are usually restricted to handhelds.

On the subject of advertising... Namco really needs to get with it. They never advertise their Tales games. I thought Symphonia would have changed their minds after it sold through some miracle, but they didn't advertise Legendia or Abyss either. DotNW is just the latest victim.

I think the reason why they aren't advertising the Tales games is because they honestly don't expect Tales to be huge outside of Japan.

 



 

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ClaudeLv250 on 11 November 2008
Riachu said:
ClaudeLv250 said:
noname2200 said:
mike_intellivision said:
noname2200 said:
Khuutra said:

Do you have a citation/link on that comment by Namco's PR people? I don't doubt they may have felt that way (that seems to be the third party reaction to the Wii -- then they wonder why they don't get sales). But to actually say it publicly would be stupid. Mike from Morgantown

I'm having trouble tracking down the "budget" quote, but the "spinoff" one can be found here.

http://www.gamespot.com/wii/rpg/talesofsymphonia2/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-42778459&pid=942210

 

Tsutomu Gouda: First, I have to say that the relationship between Destiny 1 and 2, and Symphonia and Dawn, is very different. Destiny 1 and 2 formed one complete whole, but Dawn doesn't have a "2" attached to it; we consider it to be a spinoff title.

 

Speaking personally, that was the moment when alarm bells started sounding in my head. Why would you refer to your own product like that...?

 

Alarm bells? Not quite, it' been an escort title from the start and I told people that, but that certainly doesn't mean it's bad.

Generally escort titles are smaller in scope and a bit experimental for the franchise, but DotNW seems to be the 'biggest' spinoff in the series to date. All the other escort titles are usually restricted to handhelds.

On the subject of advertising... Namco really needs to get with it. They never advertise their Tales games. I thought Symphonia would have changed their minds after it sold through some miracle, but they didn't advertise Legendia or Abyss either. DotNW is just the latest victim.

I think the reason why they aren't advertising the Tales games is because they honestly don't expect Tales to be huge outside of Japan.

 

It's got nothing to do with being huge and everything to do with letting people know these games exist and are coming soon. They seem almost indifferent to their own games. Why bring them over if they're not going to entice people to buy them?

And if Symphonia proved anything, it's that this series certainlydoes have the potential to be "huge" for a non-SE franchise outside of Japan.

 



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outlawauron on 11 November 2008
noname2200 said:
mike_intellivision said:
noname2200 said:
Khuutra said:

Do you have a citation/link on that comment by Namco's PR people? I don't doubt they may have felt that way (that seems to be the third party reaction to the Wii -- then they wonder why they don't get sales). But to actually say it publicly would be stupid. Mike from Morgantown

I'm having trouble tracking down the "budget" quote, but the "spinoff" one can be found here.

http://www.gamespot.com/wii/rpg/talesofsymphonia2/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-42778459&pid=942210

 

Tsutomu Gouda: First, I have to say that the relationship between Destiny 1 and 2, and Symphonia and Dawn, is very different. Destiny 1 and 2 formed one complete whole, but Dawn doesn't have a "2" attached to it; we consider it to be a spinoff title.

 

Speaking personally, that was the moment when alarm bells started sounding in my head. Why would you refer to your own product like that...?

 

It does for me.



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Lord_Yggdrassil on 21 November 2008

I regret making this thread. This game is incredibly average, and painfully stupid. It's one of those games that screams "last gen". Horrible graphics, dull characters and stupid VA...ugh. Can't believe i bought it.

However i'm enjoying Last Remnant, so if there's anyone on the fence...you should check it out!



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