i see sonys appraoch as better with aquisitions such as naughty dog, insomnia and Guerila games is catching up to nintendo who also has high quality developers such retro studios and monolith soft. both are publishing third party games and both have strong second partys nintendo has HAL labaratories, cameot and skip ltd ect but im not sure what sony has. however the problem with second partys is that they dint alwasy remain so. Nintendo has lost 3 excelent devs in rare, factor 5 and silicon knights. however factor 5 may soon return to the role of second party. the big differentiator i can see is that nitnendo has a huge internal team, Nintendo EAD. i dont believe sony has an equivelent

Insomniac is not 1st party, I don't get how Sony have managed to get so many exclusives from them and still haven't bought them, I don't think Insomniac have made a game on a non-Sony platform

Also when talking about studios you have to remember the studios that seem to be supporting the 360 rather then the PS3. I.E Epic,Square Enix,RockStar,Bioware,Valve,Ubisoft,Capcom etc.. etc.. now a lot of these studios have been paid for games and a lot haven't. However i think all of them really are happy to be on the 360 side of the fence simply due to the $$$ they make on that side. Those studios are the best in the world at what they do and for various reasons this geneation they have gone to MS.
Personally i think were see after the xmas period Konami follow suit and announce the MGS4 for 360. Reason for that is MGS4 hasen't sold well in comparison to 360 A+ titles (3m?) and they know that buy releasing it on 360 will mean they have a chance to sell to 22m people. Which again = $$$.

Munkeh111 said: Insomniac is not 1st party, I don't get how Sony have managed to get so many exclusives from them and still haven't bought them, I don't think Insomniac have made a game on a non-Sony platform

 

Sony owns the IP's that they develop. (Ratchet & Resistance)

Lord N said: Munkeh111 said: Insomniac is not 1st party, I don't get how Sony have managed to get so many exclusives from them and still haven't bought them, I don't think Insomniac have made a game on a non-Sony platform   Sony owns the IP's that they develop. (Ratchet & Resistance)

I am not sure about that, I definitely read an interview with Brian (I think) Hastings, who said that they are 100% independent from Sony, it was in an older OPM, though he could be lying

Soriku said: Munkeh111 said: Insomniac is not 1st party, I don't get how Sony have managed to get so many exclusives from them and still haven't bought them, I don't think Insomniac have made a game on a non-Sony platform   Insomniac makes all their games for Sony platforms anyway so buying them would just cost Sony money for no reason when they get all their games regardless.

Because things can change, 6 Final Fantasy games in a row (X-2 counts instead of XI) and now nothing... it just gives added security

 

There was a thread a while back that asked: What are your favorite Sony franchises. While the PS1 and PS2 were EASILY the best consoles of their respective generations, I was more than a little surprised how hard it was for me to come up with franchises I loved. Of course there were some great ones (Gran Turismo, Ratchet & Clank, God of War), but Sony's consoles were great because of it's extensive library of third party hits. Playstation had ALL of the biggest franchises (Madden, Metal Gear, Final Fantasy, GTA, Tomb Raider, etc.). Now, while Playstation is still home to all of gamings biggest 3rd party franchises, Microsoft is doing everything it can to have everything Sony has (and my list of must have Microsoft 1st party hits is MUCH SMALLER than Sony's).

Sony is trying to make their name with newer franchises (Uncharted, LBP, Heavy Rain), and Microsoft is making sure that it has almost all of the AAA 3rd party games that used to be Sony's. Microsoft has a sprinkling of great exclusives too. To be honest, both companies seem very similar in the end.

xman and Hyruken:

Sony built up great relationships with third parties over the last two generations, but when Sony no longer had their overwhelming market share, all of those exclusives went multi-platform or were lost outright.

As it stands, MS isn't anywhere near that level of market share, and this is why so many third-party titles are simply going multi-platform.

Third-party titles are going to keep going multi-platform due to rising development costs and because of the fact that neither Sony or MS have the necessary market share to warrant exclusivity. The only titles that are guaranteed to remain exclusive are first and second party, and that's where MS is easily the weakest.

Furthermore, since MS is so willing to fork over the cash, devs are just going to keep asking for more of it, and might even ask for money on titles that they were going to make multi-platform anyway, and this would make it really hard for MS to turn a profit.

Munkeh111 said: Lord N said: Munkeh111 said: Insomniac is not 1st party, I don't get how Sony have managed to get so many exclusives from them and still haven't bought them, I don't think Insomniac have made a game on a non-Sony platform   Sony owns the IP's that they develop. (Ratchet & Resistance) I am not sure about that, I definitely read an interview with Brian (I think) Hastings, who said that they are 100% independent from Sony, it was in an older OPM, though he could be lying

 

I said that they own the IP's, not the developer.

Insomniac couldn't make a Ratchet or Resistance game without Sony's permission.

 

Soriku said: Munkeh111 said: Insomniac is not 1st party, I don't get how Sony have managed to get so many exclusives from them and still haven't bought them, I don't think Insomniac have made a game on a non-Sony platform   Insomniac makes all their games for Sony platforms anyway so buying them would just cost Sony money for no reason when they get all their games regardless.

 

In deed. It seems to me that Inzomniac enjoy working with SONY as a publisher.

OT: After reading this thread and quite a few posts, I think I like SONY's way better. Getting a strong first party going garantees great exclusives in the future. And it let's me no that the PS3 isn't the end and that they are in for the long haul [thought this b4 anyway..].  It's pricier now but I think it will pay off later on. MS seems to me like they arent here for gaming at all, just that thought up theory of sending SONY down the drain.

       Continuesly paying for 3rd party support will cost them in the long run, am sure they would relealize that, making me think that they won't be here long. And laying off 6 studies in 18 months and leaving currently owning 4 [possibly 5 later on I understand] that word in XBOX game development is just wierd... [IMO].