I quoted the total loss with the PS3 since launch and you come at me that they reduced the amount lost for the quarter year over year.  Even if they start making a profit they still have to dig out of a 3.5 billion dollar hole they dug themselves into with the PS3.  Even if the PS3 started making money like the PS2 in its prime for the next 4 years (which it won't) it wouldn't even make back half that money.

They are still losing 379 million even at a $400 pricepoint 2 years into the generation, that is not good.  I don't know what kind of world we have slipped into where that is a good thing even considering all the trouble Sony has gotten themself into this generation. 

If there was a way i could spin it i would, it's just bad.  Like it i said the main thing Sony has going for them is that the PS3 is actually selling pretty well at $400 because they can't afford the pressure to lower it right now.

10 million PS3 in forecast looks like they are calculating very conservative since in the first 2 quarters they already shipped about 4 million and if they can keep up with last years holiday sales thats another 4 million in this quarter so only 2 million left for the 4th quarter (which would actually be a bit lower sales than last year).
and ps2 shipped and sales seem to be still much stronger than everyone estimated here (tracking about same as ps3 still), guess its selling more in countries that aren't tracked that good on this page now.

so you're saying a $500 million improvement over last year is a bad thing?

OK. From now on, when anyone improves by half a Billion dollars, I'll take your advice and say it's bad.

Shame on Sony for doing better.

last year they had some kind of insane forecast that was impossible for them to reach, so obviously this is much better.  Obviously it's gonna sell more than 10 million, but that would have been something like a worst case scenario.

 While selling 2/3rd Ps2's and more than twice as much Ps3's mind you.

No surprise, the 10% increase in yen cost them a tonn.
I'm guessing without it they would have been close to breaking even...

Yes it's horrible.  Are you saying we should cheer because instead of 800 million they lose 379 million?  I'm sure next year if they lose 150 million you'll be posting less than half the losses year over year and preaching how it's great.  It's terrible, of course the losses are gonna be lower in years time.  Losses are losses, you are a company to make money not to put yourself billions in the hole and cheer when you lose less money.  The PS3 needs to put up or shut up, it has been nothing but a thorn in Sony's side since it was released.  It is literally a financial disaster for Sony and to say otherwise is ridiculous right now.  Console generations aren't that long, you can't just expect to stop losing money 3 years into the lifecycle and expect to get much of anything back.  2 years has gone by and the hole is still getting deeper. 

looked a bit at ps2 shipped numbers compared to vgchartz sales for the last quarters
q1 2007 – sony shipped - 2.66 million
vgchartz sales – 2.3 million
q2 2007 - sony shipped - 3.28 million
vgchartz sales - 2.1 million
q3 2007 - sony shipped - 5.4 million
vgchartz sales – 4 million
q4 2007 - sony shipped - 2.4 million
vgchartz sales – 2.2 million
q1 2008 – sony shipped - 1.51 million
vgcharz – 1.41 million
q2 2008 – sony shipped 2.5 million
vgchartz 1.25 million
there is over a million more shipped ps2 in q2 and q3 2007 and also more than a million higher in q2 2008. i really doubt that all these 4 million ps2 difference between shipped and sales are still out on shelves (especially since the shipped number in last quarter was pointing up again). my guess is that ps2 sales last year are probably 2 million+ higher than vgchartz tracked it

==> they have done this in purpose to be able to say : we are selling PS3 much better than expected

(the opposite of last year)

You're right. It's truly horrible.

AND they should have cured cancer by now with all those people Folding@Home. They should just can that project too.

If they didn't cure it immediately, it's obviously totally useless.