| javierdacosta said: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA 360 and PS3 games on the Wii... OH SORRY YOU ARE SERIOUS!!!!!! |
Rockstar's Table Tennis says hi.
| Hus said: Grow up and stop trolling. |
| rocketpig said: You can't compare PC specs with console specs. PC games, in comparison, are poorly optimized (due to the diversity of hardware) and they have this rather large thing called an "operating system" running in the background that has a tendency to eat up resources left and right. Consoles, on the other hand, are a frozen format where everyone has identical hardware and it has a bare-bones OS running in the background. Developers, as they learn the systems, are able to eek out every ounce of power the system offers instead of having to program for a broad variety of hardware that people may or may not be running in their PCs. We're really talking apples and oranges here. Other than the fact that they both can play video games, there isn't a lot in common. One is a purpose-built machine while the other is designed to run a wide variety of tasks. It's kinda like wondering why the iPhone can't display games as well as the DS even though the iPhone processor clocks faster. I'm not even going to touch on the differences between RISC and CISC, RAM speed, and other things. I think I made my point. |
Fair point. I suppose the question is then are there many games out there like Rockstar's TT which have bridged a big gap in power between consoles, or if that's just a one off. I can't think of any off the top of my head but will post any I do later.
| Hus said: Grow up and stop trolling. |
Kwaad said:
First off, Happy Squirrel, Thanks for trolling me some more. I like it. I also reported it. UE2.5 is best for the Wii. UE3 is too power demanding, and actually wouldnt run as well as UE2.5. In terms of what can be displayed, UE2.5 is already more than the Wii can do. ookaze - A game that simulates realism, should look real. Morrowind looked... meh. Oblivion, looked real. Okami looked amazing, it's like a peice of art, flowing liquid art. Great art, almost always looks great! (The main spire in oblivion is a good example, it would look amazing on a 240x180 cell phone screen) The Wii will be capable of amazing games in it's life. But so far, I have seen nothing announced that truely makes me want to buy it. Does it take 4x the power to render a HD image. I wouldnt go as far as to say that, becuase in a game like LAIR, I wouldnt even want to know how much power it takes to calculate what the armies are doing. I wouldnt even DREAM of the computations the power the lighting uses on KillZone2. Those do not scale in terms of power use. The shadows on Killzone2 seem to be calculated at a SD resolution anyway, to save on the massive power use. Those are things that cant be dont on the Wii, due to power restrictions. And I agree, graphics on the Wii look like crap today, becuase of a lack of effort. I really have accepted the Wii for where it is graphically. Gamecube x2. It dont really bother me anymore that the first computer I built 5 years ago was faster, and could play better looking games. What bothers me today, there are now 2 things that remain that bother me, and neither of them will be resolved by... 'accepting'. I'm not gonna go into those in here. They are both physical, and restricting problems. One can be resolved by not being used in games tho. |
For someone who is constantly being reported for trolling, to the point of being warned by mods, you seem to have a pretty warped view of trolling.
Happy Squirrel wants figures. You're not giving them. This is not trolling.
EDIT: javierdecosta, on the other hand... Completely trolling.
PS3: 5.51m/51w, avg 108,039/w (up 239)
360: 12.93m/102w, avg 126,764/w (up 625), leads PS3 by 7.42m (up 70k), avg lead 18,725/w (up 386)
Wii: 13.52m/51w, avg 265,098/w (dn 1,102), leads PS3 by 8.01m (up 90k), avg lead 157,059/w (dn 1,341)
If 360 sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass 360 by...
01/08: (008w) +875.8%, 04/08: (021w) +344.4%, 07/08: (034w) +219.3%, 10/08: (047w) +163.5%
01/09: (060w) +131.8%, 04/09: (073w) +111.4%, 07/09: (085w) +098.1%, 10/09: (099w) +086.7%
If Wii sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass Wii by...
01/08: (008w) +1072.%, 04/08: (021w) +498.4%, 07/08: (034w) +363.4%, 10/08: (047w) +303.1%
01/09: (060w) +269.0%, 04/09: (073w) +246.9%, 07/09: (085w) +232.6%, 10/09: (099w) +220.3%
If PS2 sales freeze, Wii sales increases needed to pass PS2 (as of Mar07, 108.4m) by...
2008: (008w) +4373.8%, 2009: (060w) +0496.5%, 2010: (112w) +0219.6%, 2011: (165w) +0116.9%
2012: (217w) +0064.9%, 2013: (269w) +0033.1%, 2014: (321w) +0011.5%, 2015: (376w) -0004.8%
At +0% it will pass it in 358w, the week ending September 19th, 2014, at an age of 409w (7y44w).
Current age of PS2: 7y37w.
Last update: Week ending November 3, 2007
| akuma587 said: 88 megs of RAM? Developers are complaining about only having 256 on the PS3 and the 360... |
You need much more ram for hd textures.
The 360/PS3 both have 512mb ram they are just different types. And if you want true specs that you can judge you should try google, i saw a post on a PS site before talking about all the power of next gen games and it was 40 pages long and that was just the first post, you needed a college degree just to understand it. Plus its not just the graphics that would need to be dumbed down for the wii, it everything that makes 360/PS3 game what they are.
PS3owner: Such as?
PS3: 5.51m/51w, avg 108,039/w (up 239)
360: 12.93m/102w, avg 126,764/w (up 625), leads PS3 by 7.42m (up 70k), avg lead 18,725/w (up 386)
Wii: 13.52m/51w, avg 265,098/w (dn 1,102), leads PS3 by 8.01m (up 90k), avg lead 157,059/w (dn 1,341)
If 360 sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass 360 by...
01/08: (008w) +875.8%, 04/08: (021w) +344.4%, 07/08: (034w) +219.3%, 10/08: (047w) +163.5%
01/09: (060w) +131.8%, 04/09: (073w) +111.4%, 07/09: (085w) +098.1%, 10/09: (099w) +086.7%
If Wii sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass Wii by...
01/08: (008w) +1072.%, 04/08: (021w) +498.4%, 07/08: (034w) +363.4%, 10/08: (047w) +303.1%
01/09: (060w) +269.0%, 04/09: (073w) +246.9%, 07/09: (085w) +232.6%, 10/09: (099w) +220.3%
If PS2 sales freeze, Wii sales increases needed to pass PS2 (as of Mar07, 108.4m) by...
2008: (008w) +4373.8%, 2009: (060w) +0496.5%, 2010: (112w) +0219.6%, 2011: (165w) +0116.9%
2012: (217w) +0064.9%, 2013: (269w) +0033.1%, 2014: (321w) +0011.5%, 2015: (376w) -0004.8%
At +0% it will pass it in 358w, the week ending September 19th, 2014, at an age of 409w (7y44w).
Current age of PS2: 7y37w.
Last update: Week ending November 3, 2007
| PS3owner said: The 360/PS3 both have 512mb ram they are just different types. And if you want true specs that you can judge you should try google, i saw a post on a PS site before talking about all the power of next gen games and it was 40 pages long and that was just the first post, you needed a college degree just to understand it. Plus its not just the graphics that would need to be dumbed down for the wii, it everything that makes 360/PS3 game what they are. |
So... just the graphics then?
Witty signature here...
Wii: 14 million by January I sold myself short
360: 13 million by January I sold microsoft short, but not as bad as Nintendo.
PS3: 6 million by January. If it approaches 8 mil i'll eat crow Mnn Crow is yummy.
With these results, I've determined that I suck at long term predictions, and will not long term predict anything ever again. Thus spaketh Crono.
YES BUT THEY'D BE WIIDUCED AND UTTERLY WIIDICKULOUS!!!
anyone here ever see the actual specs od the ps2 and gamecube? ps2 ran at *gasp* 256mhz roughly. the gamecube was easily 660mhz roughly xbox was a little more 720mhz roughly it was all in press releases. i have a hard time believing the wii is 750mhz roughly and since they have NEVER released actual specs we will never know what they are. for all anyone here that says and believes the above number is correct are misleading themselves till they officially release the specs which probabl y wont happen. can i say one other thing think of the ranges in speed for processors p1 75mhz to 266mhz, p2 266mhz to 650mhz, p3 650mhz to 1.3ghz, and p4 1.3ghz to *shocker* 4.6ghz so to optimize as much speed as u can out of a gamecube processor you can get easily 2ghz so dont be suproized if tyhis is more true then the 750nhz junk. and for that any game on 360 or ps3 can be ported over.
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| scorptile said: anyone here ever see the actual specs od the ps2 and gamecube? ps2 ran at *gasp* 256mhz roughly. the gamecube was easily 660mhz roughly xbox was a little more 720mhz roughly it was all in press releases. i have a hard time believing the wii is 750mhz roughly and since they have NEVER released actual specs we will never know what they are. for all anyone here that says and believes the above number is correct are misleading themselves till they officially release the specs which probabl y wont happen. can i say one other thing think of the ranges in speed for processors p1 75mhz to 266mhz, p2 266mhz to 650mhz, p3 650mhz to 1.3ghz, and p4 1.3ghz to *shocker* 4.6ghz so to optimize as much speed as u can out of a gamecube processor you can get easily 2ghz so dont be suproized if tyhis is more true then the 750nhz junk. and for that any game on 360 or ps3 can be ported over. |
Dude....
Wait, what?
Witty signature here...
Wii: 14 million by January I sold myself short
360: 13 million by January I sold microsoft short, but not as bad as Nintendo.
PS3: 6 million by January. If it approaches 8 mil i'll eat crow Mnn Crow is yummy.
With these results, I've determined that I suck at long term predictions, and will not long term predict anything ever again. Thus spaketh Crono.
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