@OP

Sony will be second because of the brandname and some exclusive game like GT5.

It will NOT DESTROY the xbox360, but Sony will be second.

you will see.

I meant all those games as a whole, as in building a very attractive library to entice buyers to say 'hey, the PS3 has tons of awesome games' .  I agree, a GT5 release trumps all them when each is considered alone.  I bought my PS1 and PS2 just to buy GT1 and 4(?) .

KZ2 might just have potential to make a massive splash if its as good as the beta testers are implying (even though the NDA lets them say almost nothing)

I'd disagree.

A 299 or 199 price point would be Sony's last chance to pull ahead, not a single game. No single game can change the way things are rolling this console generation.

Concerning your 'PS3 = 3rd place' belief, I'd wait before calling that out. As previously stated, PS360 aren't even priced similarly yet.

Excuse me?  What do you think is crazy about that?  I'm not saying it's going to put rocket boosters on and pass the 360 by March, and I'm not saying LBP will definitely be that big a success.  If you think I'm wrong, do better than "crazy person lol".

I'm afraid you've misunderstood me. When I say litmus test, I'm not talking about developers sticking their fingers in the wind to see what games they should develop. They'll continue to develop what they're already developing and start developing whatever they're going to develop. This litmus test is for US, the people on this site who are tracking sales and are actually putting any weight on whether a console sells the most or not.

Seriously, LBP is the best example I've seen of a highly anticipated PS3 game that isn't 3, 2, 4, 5 or 13, and out of all of these, it's the only one that isn't hyper realistic and is whimsical in nature. This may not tell us excatly how well every single future "creative" game will fair, but it will be a reference point to work from.

The other point I hold, is that no single game or pricecut or anything of that nature is going to push PS3 up ahead of 360. The only way I see for PS3 to pass 360 is be seperating itself as being distinctly different in nature from the 360. The best chance I see for the PS3 to do this is in showing itself off as being capable of both hardcore AND whimsical, which will require whimsical and creative games to do well.

And as I said, Little Big Planet will not do this on its own or inspire other developers to be creative and whimsical, BUT by seeing how well this game performs, we will have a fairly reasonable point to work from when trying to calculate how any other creative and whimsical games will do, nd from that, how good a chance PS3 has from distinguishing itself from 360 in this manner.

 GT5 trumps them all combined. Kill Zone 2 sounds promising but it has some hurdles to overcome beyond simply being a great game. The FPS is a very well represented genre on the PS3. Consequenly you will see far fewer people jump onto the console just for that game than you would without things like Resistance, Call of Duty 4, etc. The game could sell well past my expectations, but a huge splash is extremely unlikely as the game is in a well represented genre for the console. I am not saying it will make no difference, but it will not be a megaton (for sales of the PS3) long term.

 @Grey
If we are talking about this forum then Little Big Planet is far from the "last chance." Nearly every exclusive gets hyped to being the title that will make the PS3 dominate the sales charts. Hell, Lair was put up on that pedastal for a long time. The people who are being realistic will admit that no one game can save a system. Never has happened, and probably never will happen*. The PS3 has already shown it can outsell the 360 for extended periods of time without the aid of whimsical and creative games by simply being more appealing to the hardcore crowd. Both are desperately vying for whatever piece of the "casual" pie they can get and anything the PS3 does to get a leg up will be cloned by the 360 in a matter of time and vice versa.

*[To those of you who are already typing out responses for FFVII or Monster Hunter 2 please save yourself the time and don't. There were a number of factors outside of those games (already being the dominant console and a new model respectively) that influenced the sales far more.]

the game have a online,

it have a good lasting appeal, i still play metal gear online at least an hour a day.
ands thats a shooter games i that don't used to like

Your forgetting that Gran Turismo 5 is coming out in 2009. That should move consoles.

"last chance"? People are dumb..... Gran Turismo 5? Home? What about all the unannounced games that you don't know about? New features that you don't know about?

Kind of early in the game to call it last chance? Especially when the PS3 can outsell the 360 with nothing big being released.