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SmokedHostage on 18 October 2008

What I meant by that is, he watches Overthinker on Youtube.

Poor execution of Overthinker's message but it's the right message.



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CAL4M1TY on 18 October 2008
SmokedHostage said:

I've been a fan of Nintendo since the NES days but there are just some other things that "come with the package."

1.) Nintendo's console will always be deemed the kiddy console. There's no way around it. Unless Nintendo hires American Developers into their first party ranks to develop a bunch of FPS's, it's not going to change. It's been like this since the Genesis became popular so I'm over it.

Isn't Metroid Prime developed by Retro Studios, who are american?

2.) Nintendo's console will always be at a reasonable price. Say what you want about Wii hardware but at least it wasn't launched at $600. I'm sure that if 2160p graphics can be produced on a console at $200 next gen, the Wii's successor will have it.

Depends on how you see reasonable. Last gen technology + waggle = $400AUD may not seem like such a good buy for a lot of people. I thought it was acceptable.

3.) Nintendo will always find a way to make something with an obsurd name sell well. Look at Pokemon.. I can't begin to tell you how many times someone has used Poke-a-man to insult my Pokemon fandom but Blue/Red/Green have sold more units than anything that's not Super Mario Bros. Also look at Pikmin, Nintendogs, Wii Sports, The Wii itself, etc.

4.) Nintendo fans always find reasons to bitch. I'm sorry but they do. I mean anyone remember Yoshi's Story, probably the most childish looking game ever and it was great. Also Wind Waker.. Cel-Shaded but still one of the most epic Zelda's. These are just examples but I don't even want to go into Wii Fit or Wii Music.

I'm glad someone else realises Nintendo fans aren't saints.

5.) Despite people says that Nintendo "releases the same damn games," They will have some quality IP's every gen. The SNES had Starfox, for example. The Gamecube had Pikmin.

My problem is that between waiting for these installments, what else is there for me to play?

6.) There will always to a new Mario IP every new console. The SNES had Mario Paint and Super Mario Kart. The N64 had Mario Party, Mario Tennis, Mario Golf, Paper Mario. The Gamecube had DDR Mario Mix, Mario Baseball and Mario Strikers. I can't for the next ones, personally. I'm sure there are more, I just haven't listed them.

That's very true, they realise that the racist stereotypes thinly disguised as a good natured plumber still sells, so they whore it out. Not necessarily a bad thing when we get Mario Tennis or Mario Golf, but when we get stuff like Strikers and Baseball, it saddens me that Miyamoto would do things like that.

I'm glad I got this out of the way. If you don't mind, I'm going to give my Wii some playtime.

 

 



Xen on 18 October 2008

Retro Studios are British, CAL4M1TY.



thanny on 18 October 2008

i dont think n64 was really considered kiddy... i imagine lots of people who would have though snes to be kiddy would have changed their view after goldeneye



 

 

 

 

 

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Dgc1808 on 18 October 2008

I enjoyed reading this.



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astrosmash on 18 October 2008
thanny said:
i dont think n64 was really considered kiddy... i imagine lots of people who would have though snes to be kiddy would have changed their view after goldeneye

Every Nintendo console has some "mature" games, but the perception remains.

 



famousringo on 18 October 2008
Xen said:
Retro Studios are British, CAL4M1TY.

 

When was Texas annexed by the UK?



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Xen on 18 October 2008
famousringo said:
Xen said:
Retro Studios are British, CAL4M1TY.

 

When was Texas annexed by the UK?

Meh, mistaken =/.. I thought they were though. Sorry for misleading!

 



MaxwellGT2000 on 19 October 2008
puffy said:
SmokedHostage said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
Well it's also Nintendo's business plan they want to appeal to everyone, if you appeal to the "kiddie" crowd you actually appeal to the young and the old crowd, if you're "mature" you generally appeal to the preteen to 28 year old, but the "kiddie" games are actually a lot more grown up and mature then the M rated games as most M rated games are made to appeal to the immature people that play video games.

The thing that MS and Sony don't seem to realize is appealing to the "mature" crowd means that these people eventually grow up, have families, and put down their controllers for good, so that means no more money from that customer, Nintendo appeals to the old and young crowds which means they have a constant flow of customers.

If you don't bring young people into a business market that market eventually crashes, a lot like how the comic book market crashed in the 90s cause all of its comics appealed to the "mature" crowd it never tried to appeal to the younger people and therefore never brought new blood into the market and the "mature" fans eventually grew up and stopped buying comic books, what happened then? The comic book industry almost died, so appealing to a "mature" crowd may please your general audience but they won't always be your general audience and you've got to get the young people into the market to survive as a business.

Overthinker?

No, while that wasn't as clear as it could have been, the main point he was trying to make is fairly spot on

 

 

I do watch overthinker a bit, and I've seen that video, but it's also common business sense, you're dealing with a genre of entertainment that does have large appeal but for the most part it's a lot of the same comic book fans I mean gaming still has a bit of stereotype for nerds and kids just like comic books and the only way for a genre like that to survive is to bring in new blood into the market, otherwise they get old, they get bored, they leave, you're broke.  And unlike comic books BILLIONS are spent on games, development and purchasing games alike you can't spend billions if you don't make those billions.  So a charach for the game market now would put companies under for good unlike Marvel and DC where the crash nearly killed them but they were able to survive long enough to build their base back up.  Which now they're making comic books but they're making a killing off of movies of those comic book stories, and it's almost like the movies are their big sellers so they go out and promote those like crazy and the movies support making the comic books that keep the core comic book fanbase happy.



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