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A few of us on VGCharts.org are pretty loopy when it comes to the systems we own. I've noticed a few major Sony fanboys, a few Nintendo fanboys, and possibly me as the only Xbot here. I was just thinking about how ludicrous some people are. Because of this, I want to hear the biased users like Kawaad and Washmul (among others) discuss their predictions on how their beloved PS3s, Wiis, or 360s will do this year abroad. I'll start with my crazy prediction(s): The 360 will do at or near 500,000 units of sales in Japan. It needs a 155% increase YOY over last year to do this. At it's current rate, it will be at that, provided it stays the same as it is throughout the year. Of course, I know this is a crazy prediction, as it'd mean that the 360 out-sold the Xbox in Japan's lifetime just in this year. Also, with a nice little pricedrop, the 360 will SELL 10m units this year, not just ship (ship around 22m). Very crazy, as it'd have to beat their June shipping estimate @ 12m and then ship 5m per quarter for the next 6 months. Doable? Yes, with a pricedrop & increased production at the factories. Will it happen? Who knows. Just one rule: Don't attack/bash/laugh at any predictions UNTIL the prediction timeframe is up....Then laugh and mock all you want :) Oh, 3rd prediction for me: The 360 will beat the Wii in W/W sales. Nintendo fans will cry foul, but between the 360 having more longivety, and the Wii (IMO) having a 3.5 to 4yr lifespan before a h/w revision, will allow the 360 to creep ahead....Barely, but somehow. Just like the Xbox vs. GC. Also, some insight on why you believe your prediction is right, or atleast plausible will happen.



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The PS3 will be the bastard child of the Saturn and N64, but in more ways than just sales. In Japan the Wii will dominate, but much like the Playstation vs. Saturn, the PS3 will capture the hardcore niche. People often forget that the Saturn was Sega's most successful console in Japan as it catered to a very specific crowd in Japan. I believe the PS3 will do the same, in Japan. In the US the PS3 will mirror the performance of the N64, being bought up by a devout fan base. However it will experience long droughts of good games, just like the 64, and then have a gem pop up every now and then. Overall the Wii will win Japan by a wide margin, with the PS3 emulating the Saturn's market share and the 360 being like the Sega CD in Japan (small but loyal following). Europe I see the Wii winning, with the PS3 and 360 more or less neck and neck - but I'll give an edge to the PS3. In the US the 360 will win long term, with the Wii having a considerable user base and the PS3 pulling a 64. But the only thing for certain is that this is a far more interesting war than last gen, and I fully expect to see the different markets far more fractured than last gen. Difference consoles will win different markets, one system won't just sweep the board.



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I see many possibilities, and one of the most likely things I could see happening is Sony making a mistake which (essentially) kills the PS3. In the very near future (I suspect by E3) Microsoft will announce both a newly upgraded Xbox 360 (with similar features as the PS3) and that the Premium Xbox 360 will be reduced to $299 (possibly with bundled games and a 3 month subscription to Xbox Live); the mistake Sony will make is that they won’t reduce the price of the PS3 in North America or Europe and their sales will suffer regardless of the content they produce. The Wii’s performance will largely be determined by the content Nintendo produces; they have a difficult job of producing all of the content needed to satisfy their fanbase while producing games which appeal to casual and non-gamers.



1) Gamers, and by gamers I mean people who have bought into at least 1 other generation will see that the wii is a one trick poney that will not offer the kind of escapism that the average gamer has come to expect. I no its fun, I own one but its not fun by myself and does'nt offer any real depth to a single player. Thus doing well for the 'friends over thing' but not wining the console war. 2) Japanese are fickle about their consumer products and by that I mean they like to buy Japanese. Xbox 360 in Japan=Failure. Wii first PS3 second. 3) PS3 will do reasonably well in all markets. It will win Europe, come second in Japan and come a close third in the states. This will be a long race and to win you need long legs...Wii does'nt have any...XBOX 360 needs a new pair every mile and PS3 at time of writing is too Overweight(£££).



For 2007 I predict that the 360 will see it's lead shrink below 2 million units. 360 and PS3 will not break even. And Metroid Prime 3 will do so-so. For 2008 I predict that the Wii will hit 20 million units before the 360. People will stop discounting the Wii as a one-trick pony. 360 and PS3 will not break even. Beyond that I predict that we will not see an XBox with significant new features before 2009 or 2010. Edit: had to add some more predictions.



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reverie said: I predict that the Wii will hit 20 million units before the 360.
I think that is almost a certain. If Nintendo can up production to about 1mill / month, it will hit it about mid next year (that is almost the entire worldwide sales of the GC!). 22m 360's SHIPPED? That's actually impossible (unless you mean cumulative - not just in a year). Otherwise - its possible (but still unlikely) - closer to 18m I would say by end of March 2008. ... My predictions? Wii will continue to sell out (Im *so* stoked about the VC at the moment - I don't CARE about new releases!!). PS3 will have a substancial price cut (with the "revised" model, that plays half the PS2 games available). 360 will have a new model, and a price cut. PSP will bring out a new model - sometime before Xmas. DS will continue to dominate sales - as even more titles are brought out and announced. Wii will top the yearly sales (for all of 07), followed by PS3, then 360 last.



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My crow eating prediction are as follows(I really like this idea): The Wii will dominate all three regions, it's just a matter of how severe the domination is. Japan is Wii country. But, it is a DS empire. The Wii is king but the DS is the emperor here. The 360 is nonexistant, and the PS3 doing Gamecube level of sales, plus or minus a few thousands. The Wii will be stronger in the USA than the DS. The Wii will do in the USA what the DS is doing in Japan because of the difference in lifestyle(we are less mobile than Japan but the same appetite for "nongames"). People will be asking if every household in America bought one every time the NPD thread comes in. It will be the next diet/exercise craze but it won't be a fad because this results in western devs developing even more games for the system. Gaming will become mainstream like noone has seen before. It will surpass the NES and PS2 household penetration. The 360 will have a healthy audience though, but nothing special. It will have slightly around 30 million. This is the only region where the PS3 did not surpass it. The PS3 will be relegated to third place, doing around 25 million. In Europe, the DS and the Wii will be about even. It will be similar to what happened in NA when it comes to the Wii, but will be a bit muted. It will at least do PS2 like levels. When it comes to the three biggest market, it will be weakest in the UK(relatively because it will still be leading here), but doing really strong in both France and Germany. The PS3 is second in the European market overall, but the Wii will be at least double in userbase size. The 360 is third, 10 million behind the PS3.



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Prediction 1: Sega re-enters the market in June and sells 400 million consoles by August only to lose the next generation to Atari in early October. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Now for the real predictions: Nintendo announces that they beat their projection of having 6 million Wii's sold by the end of March. In actuality, they have around 7-7.5 million sold to customers as of March 31. Sony announces that they missed their projection of 6 million PS3's sold by the end of March. They end up selling between 3-5 million to customers as of March 31. Microsoft does ship approximately 11-13 million 360's worldwide by June 30. Between 10.5 and 11.5 are in the hands of customers. The Nintendo DS passes the PS2 in Japan between October 15 and December 15, 2007, with hardware sales in the 23-26 million range when it does so. Wii-mania slows a bit in the summer, but demand stays strong. Wii gets to 10 million sold to customers between late June and mid August. 360 hits 14.5 million in late October. Wii hits 13 million in late October. PS3 hits 8 million in late October In the all important holiday season, 360 and Wii are neck and neck in North America. PS3 loses an important killer app last minute to the 360, and sells significantly less. Europe balks at the expensive price of PS3, and at what Wii and 360 offer. The consoles nearly split the Euro pie in three. In Japan, Dragon Quest, DDR, a big Nintendo non-game, and a big Nintendo tradtional game carry Wii into DS levels of popularity. Sony manages one killer app in Japan, that sells to 40% or more of the PS3 userbase, but does little to increase hardware sales. November looks like this: Americas: 360 - 800,000 Wii - 750,000 PS3 - 500,000 Europe: 360 - 450,000 Wii - 500,000 PS3 - 400,000 Japan: Wii - 1,000,000 PS3 - 200,000 360 - 25,000 December looks like this: Americas 360 - 1,000,000 Wii - 850,000 PS3 - 500,000 Europe 360 - 500,000 Wii - 600,000 PS3 - 400,000 Japan Wii - 1,000,000 PS3 - 300,000 360 - 50k December 31, 2007 Userbase (What must be sold considering 'current' userbase) Wii - 17.7 million (12.7 million in 10 months) 360 - 17.325 million (8.1 million in 10 months) PS3 - 10.1 million (8.2 million in 10 months)



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TheSource said: December 31, 2007 Userbase (What must be sold considering 'current' userbase) Wii - 17.7 million (12.7 million in 10 months) 360 - 17.325 million (8.1 million in 10 months) PS3 - 10.1 million (8.2 million in 10 months)
Wii- Probably PS3-Maybe Xbox 360-No Chance - It will not sell more in 10 months this year then it did in all of 2006 and xmas 2005 especially since now it has competion.