Oh, no - you didn't go there. No...

"@Paul_Warren: Try using an example from a comparable medium. Like, you know. Video games. Specifically RPGs."

FFX, FFX-2, and FFXII would not have been as good as they were if they weren't on the PS2. They would be better on the PS3.

.....Maybe if a dev actually tried to push the system to the limit, like they do on the PS360, we wouldn't have this problem. Some barely try in that department at all.

Even at the Wii's best it still isn't capable of the same things the PS360 are and with such a large volume of crap for the Wii playing on the Wii's technical lacking to excuse their feeble attempts (hello EA), it's hard to see this changing much outside of certain games and exceptional developers.

Japanese developers need to start making far more multiplatform games this generation. There simply isn't a console like the PS2 this generation that dominates in all the genres and is a sure bet.

Nah, its an opinion. As kid I watched Batman (1989) so many times that both my brother and I had memorized every line in the movie from beginning to end. The Dark Knight walks all over Batman....IMO.

As for the thread topic, SaviorX mentioned how he believes Marvelous will grow because they've backed the Wii wholely while their larger contemporaries have continued to give the console half hearted efforts. That is something I have thought would a occur for sometime now. While I didn't reference Marvelous in particular, I knew that some smaller developer would makes huge gains giving Wii owners the games their larger brethen will not.

Instead of adapting to the market at hand, larger Japanese developers have ignored it. They've tried to make Western style games due to the poor showings by the HD consoles in their home market. What attracted a large portion of their fans to their games in the first place was difference in style that Japanese games had in comparison to Western developed titles. I'm not saying that they shouldn't make Western style games to appeal to the markets outside of Japan, but they shouldn't ignore their home market because the console they thought would sell well has tanked.

And you are fantastically wrong in all three cases - those games relied on their narrative, not their technology.

"If so, then Kojima is part of the problem - catering exclusively to the "hardcore" with a bunch of flashy, talky junk that nobody outside of an admittedly sizable cadre of pretentious fanboys cares about."

At least he is not spending the majority of his time trying to reinvent pong and heaping unfounded praise upon the gayest music game ever made.

Did you just manage to turn a frank and civil discussion about Japanese developer culture (as limited as our perspective on that is) into a gay joke about Wii Music?

A gay joke? Who even does that?

"And you are fantastically wrong in all three cases - those games relied on their narrative, not their technology."

I don't think so. Yuna, Rikku, Paine, and Ashe certainly wouldn't have been as hot in 2d sprite form. And the narratives may have been great but the looks of the girls also enhanced my enjoyments of those games.  Try to make Lightning look as good on the Wii as she does in the videos for FFXIII.