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L.C.E.C. said:
twesterm said:

I know Macs use to be terrible for gaming in that games generally just aren't released for them right away, is that still true?

-edit-

And yes, Linux is a complete waste of time.

To a large extent, yes, but new macs have video cards (although the quality of them would be a concern), The only games I know of are EASports games, Spore and The LEGO series.

MACS CAN GET VIRUSES. THE VIRUSES ARE SIMPLY LESS COMMONLY PROGRAMMED FOR MACS BECAUSE THEY ARE THE LESS COMMON FORMAT, JUST AS THERE ARE LESS GAMES FOR MAC THAN FOR PC OR CONSOLES, BECAUSE THEIR MARKET SHARE IS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER.

what viruses in the wild are there for macs, care to list them for me, i would ahve surely got them by now if they were in the wild, now if your talking about os 9 and before, yea ive seen thoughs

 



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goddog said:
L.C.E.C. said:
twesterm said:

I know Macs use to be terrible for gaming in that games generally just aren't released for them right away, is that still true?

-edit-

And yes, Linux is a complete waste of time.

To a large extent, yes, but new macs have video cards (although the quality of them would be a concern), The only games I know of are EASports games, Spore and The LEGO series.

MACS CAN GET VIRUSES. THE VIRUSES ARE SIMPLY LESS COMMONLY PROGRAMMED FOR MACS BECAUSE THEY ARE THE LESS COMMON FORMAT, JUST AS THERE ARE LESS GAMES FOR MAC THAN FOR PC OR CONSOLES, BECAUSE THEIR MARKET SHARE IS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER.

what viruses in the wild are there for macs, care to list them for me, i would ahve surely got them by now if they were in the wild, now if your talking about os 9 and before, yea ive seen thoughs

 

 

So do you just go places looking for viruses?

By your logic every Windows user should have 20 viruses and for some odd reason I don't have any on any of my 5 computers and three of those don't even have virus protection.



twesterm said:
goddog said:
L.C.E.C. said:
twesterm said:

I know Macs use to be terrible for gaming in that games generally just aren't released for them right away, is that still true?

-edit-

And yes, Linux is a complete waste of time.

To a large extent, yes, but new macs have video cards (although the quality of them would be a concern), The only games I know of are EASports games, Spore and The LEGO series.

MACS CAN GET VIRUSES. THE VIRUSES ARE SIMPLY LESS COMMONLY PROGRAMMED FOR MACS BECAUSE THEY ARE THE LESS COMMON FORMAT, JUST AS THERE ARE LESS GAMES FOR MAC THAN FOR PC OR CONSOLES, BECAUSE THEIR MARKET SHARE IS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER.

what viruses in the wild are there for macs, care to list them for me, i would ahve surely got them by now if they were in the wild, now if your talking about os 9 and before, yea ive seen thoughs

 

 

So do you just go places looking for viruses?

By your logic every Windows user should have 20 viruses and for some odd reason I don't have any on any of my 5 computers and three of those don't even have virus protection.

 

actually stranglly i do, i used to keep a collection of windows viruses that tried to execute on my mac, i lost them after a wd hard drive failure .... i dont like wd 2 hds form them have failed... while my seagates run great. there are also places you can get a list of known active in wild viruses, and since i run no protection outside of a router and using osx, if they were in the wild i should have gotten a few. i do monitor port activity, and a few other things, but have never had issues 



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goddog said:
twesterm said:
goddog said:
L.C.E.C. said:
twesterm said:

I know Macs use to be terrible for gaming in that games generally just aren't released for them right away, is that still true?

-edit-

And yes, Linux is a complete waste of time.

To a large extent, yes, but new macs have video cards (although the quality of them would be a concern), The only games I know of are EASports games, Spore and The LEGO series.

MACS CAN GET VIRUSES. THE VIRUSES ARE SIMPLY LESS COMMONLY PROGRAMMED FOR MACS BECAUSE THEY ARE THE LESS COMMON FORMAT, JUST AS THERE ARE LESS GAMES FOR MAC THAN FOR PC OR CONSOLES, BECAUSE THEIR MARKET SHARE IS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER.

what viruses in the wild are there for macs, care to list them for me, i would ahve surely got them by now if they were in the wild, now if your talking about os 9 and before, yea ive seen thoughs

 

 

So do you just go places looking for viruses?

By your logic every Windows user should have 20 viruses and for some odd reason I don't have any on any of my 5 computers and three of those don't even have virus protection.

 

actually stranglly i do, i used to keep a collection of windows viruses that tried to execute on my mac, i lost them after a wd hard drive failure .... i dont like wd 2 hds form them have failed... while my seagates run great. there are also places you can get a list of known active in wild viruses, and since i run no protection outside of a router and using osx, if they were in the wild i should have gotten a few. i do monitor port activity, and a few other things, but have never had issues 

Alright, but that still doesn't prove there are no mac viruses in the wild, that just means you like to go to porn and torrent site and happen to be using a Mac so you don't get the viruses.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised you think you're some kind of expert on everything because you use a Mac...

 



twesterm said:
goddog said:
twesterm said:
goddog said:
L.C.E.C. said:
twesterm said:

I know Macs use to be terrible for gaming in that games generally just aren't released for them right away, is that still true?

-edit-

And yes, Linux is a complete waste of time.

To a large extent, yes, but new macs have video cards (although the quality of them would be a concern), The only games I know of are EASports games, Spore and The LEGO series.

MACS CAN GET VIRUSES. THE VIRUSES ARE SIMPLY LESS COMMONLY PROGRAMMED FOR MACS BECAUSE THEY ARE THE LESS COMMON FORMAT, JUST AS THERE ARE LESS GAMES FOR MAC THAN FOR PC OR CONSOLES, BECAUSE THEIR MARKET SHARE IS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER.

what viruses in the wild are there for macs, care to list them for me, i would ahve surely got them by now if they were in the wild, now if your talking about os 9 and before, yea ive seen thoughs

 

 

So do you just go places looking for viruses?

By your logic every Windows user should have 20 viruses and for some odd reason I don't have any on any of my 5 computers and three of those don't even have virus protection.

 

actually stranglly i do, i used to keep a collection of windows viruses that tried to execute on my mac, i lost them after a wd hard drive failure .... i dont like wd 2 hds form them have failed... while my seagates run great. there are also places you can get a list of known active in wild viruses, and since i run no protection outside of a router and using osx, if they were in the wild i should have gotten a few. i do monitor port activity, and a few other things, but have never had issues 

Alright, but that still doesn't prove there are no mac viruses in the wild, that just means you like to go to porn and torrent site and happen to be using a Mac so you don't get the viruses.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised you think you're some kind of expert on everything because you use a Mac...

 

 

im also a mac certified technician, and have a+ net+ and security+ working on some other certifications. but as for in the wild, i have only seen one report of a virus in wild that was already patched, i get pissed when i see norton using scare tactics to get their horrid software on macs... it happens to have an issue with erasing mac libraries on the mac version.... 



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goddog said:
twesterm said:
goddog said:
twesterm said:
goddog said:
L.C.E.C. said:
twesterm said:

I know Macs use to be terrible for gaming in that games generally just aren't released for them right away, is that still true?

-edit-

And yes, Linux is a complete waste of time.

To a large extent, yes, but new macs have video cards (although the quality of them would be a concern), The only games I know of are EASports games, Spore and The LEGO series.

MACS CAN GET VIRUSES. THE VIRUSES ARE SIMPLY LESS COMMONLY PROGRAMMED FOR MACS BECAUSE THEY ARE THE LESS COMMON FORMAT, JUST AS THERE ARE LESS GAMES FOR MAC THAN FOR PC OR CONSOLES, BECAUSE THEIR MARKET SHARE IS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER.

what viruses in the wild are there for macs, care to list them for me, i would ahve surely got them by now if they were in the wild, now if your talking about os 9 and before, yea ive seen thoughs

 

 

So do you just go places looking for viruses?

By your logic every Windows user should have 20 viruses and for some odd reason I don't have any on any of my 5 computers and three of those don't even have virus protection.

 

actually stranglly i do, i used to keep a collection of windows viruses that tried to execute on my mac, i lost them after a wd hard drive failure .... i dont like wd 2 hds form them have failed... while my seagates run great. there are also places you can get a list of known active in wild viruses, and since i run no protection outside of a router and using osx, if they were in the wild i should have gotten a few. i do monitor port activity, and a few other things, but have never had issues 

Alright, but that still doesn't prove there are no mac viruses in the wild, that just means you like to go to porn and torrent site and happen to be using a Mac so you don't get the viruses.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised you think you're some kind of expert on everything because you use a Mac...

 

 

im also a mac certified technician, and have a+ net+ and security+ working on some other certifications

 

Wow, then you would think you would have the common sense to look at Symantec.com and see there are in fact Mac viruses in the wild.



twesterm said:
goddog said:
twesterm said:
goddog said:
twesterm said:
goddog said:
L.C.E.C. said:
twesterm said:

I know Macs use to be terrible for gaming in that games generally just aren't released for them right away, is that still true?

-edit-

And yes, Linux is a complete waste of time.

To a large extent, yes, but new macs have video cards (although the quality of them would be a concern), The only games I know of are EASports games, Spore and The LEGO series.

MACS CAN GET VIRUSES. THE VIRUSES ARE SIMPLY LESS COMMONLY PROGRAMMED FOR MACS BECAUSE THEY ARE THE LESS COMMON FORMAT, JUST AS THERE ARE LESS GAMES FOR MAC THAN FOR PC OR CONSOLES, BECAUSE THEIR MARKET SHARE IS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER.

what viruses in the wild are there for macs, care to list them for me, i would ahve surely got them by now if they were in the wild, now if your talking about os 9 and before, yea ive seen thoughs

 

 

So do you just go places looking for viruses?

By your logic every Windows user should have 20 viruses and for some odd reason I don't have any on any of my 5 computers and three of those don't even have virus protection.

 

actually stranglly i do, i used to keep a collection of windows viruses that tried to execute on my mac, i lost them after a wd hard drive failure .... i dont like wd 2 hds form them have failed... while my seagates run great. there are also places you can get a list of known active in wild viruses, and since i run no protection outside of a router and using osx, if they were in the wild i should have gotten a few. i do monitor port activity, and a few other things, but have never had issues 

Alright, but that still doesn't prove there are no mac viruses in the wild, that just means you like to go to porn and torrent site and happen to be using a Mac so you don't get the viruses.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised you think you're some kind of expert on everything because you use a Mac...

 

 

im also a mac certified technician, and have a+ net+ and security+ working on some other certifications

 

Wow, then you would think you would have the common sense to look at Symantec.com and see there are in fact Mac viruses in the wild.

 

i just adressed this in my edit, sorry about that, knew about symantec.com but all of theirs have been debunked. he also could have listed them from there and i would have addressed it or you could have



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While I do believe people like to do scare tactics (since people buy fear and not the product) I still refuses to believe there are no Mac viruses in the wild.

It's like the whole iPods break super easy idea and the other ones don't. People think iPods break easy because they see them break more because they are the most popular portable MP3 player out there. You don't hear about the Zunes or Samsung whatevers breaking because people just don't buy them.

You don't hear about Mac viruses because there just aren't that many of them out there because the people who make them don't want to waste their time.



Yeah - you have to be aware of malware on pretty much every system. Hell, I even ran AVG when I was running Ubuntu, and there's way less of a virus presence for Linux systems than there is for Macs.



twesterm said:
While I do believe people like to do scare tactics (since people buy fear and not the product) I still refuses to believe there are no Mac viruses in the wild.

It's like the whole iPods break super easy idea and the other ones don't. People think iPods break easy because they see them break more because they are the most popular portable MP3 player out there. You don't hear about the Zunes or Samsung whatevers breaking because people just don't buy them.

You don't hear about Mac viruses because there just aren't that many of them out there because the people who make them don't want to waste their time.

 

i agree wit the ipods swap mine out under warranty all the time for battery ware downs, all i can say is in my year working with macs and working on them for others, i have run across one osx virus, and it was an MS office exploit srewing around and corrupting  the library for ms office on a friends computer, it was a common virus to osx and windows, that was patched by ms quickly my friend wa sa moron and didnt know how to patch software. other than that, os9 was the last time ive seen native mac viruses in the wild. 

i was simply asking someone who was posting about viruses to post proof of this to back up a giant yellow, large print warning.

yes all things that can happen on a windows can happen on a mac becuaseboth are personal computers, eve more so now that both are x86 so processor exploits can work, but for now running without anitvirus is an option to mac users, where as its suicide for pcs (for normal users, power users can get away with living on the edge)



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