So then your comments were just completly not relevant at all to the thread at hand then?

Not quite, just informing people that you'll end up spending more on a 360, which most people think will be a smaller hit on their gaming budget but within 2 to 4 weeks most people end up spending more on a 360 to get what the PS3 has in the Box at $399.

Yes what you are saying is irrelevant to the thread. I have stated in the thread already people who are single or dont have children could still probably afford a PS3 this christmas through the credit crunch. But my point is during the christmas period many many many parents will look to get their son or daughter a new console and it's these people who will not be able to afford £300 or $399 this year. As I said most families use credit. Parents and there children will be a massive amount of the console sales this christmas. Hence my original point in OP that PS3 sales due to crunch at existing price wont rise over christmas as much as Wii60.

i wonder if  those saying is not expensive, know latin america imports games from the US and that part of the 360 and wii traked here in VGC have gone to latin american retailers? people can make an effort and buy one of then. A lot of asian countries import too, but none will import ps3 at US$400-500(they are around US$750-1000, thnx to local taxes), thats simple crazy. I see a lot of comment saying that not buying a ps3 is a matter of choice only, but please note that in every country(including rich countries like US) there are people that are budget constrained and cant buy a ps3 no matter how much they want one, specially if they have kids. that why US$200 is mass market price, cus thats a good price for a TOY, yes thats right a video game console IS A TOY, there i said it, dont fill less adult because of that.

Im a 360 owner

Battery pack. Costing about 30 Bucks.

20 GB HDD (came as standard)

Xbox Live only used a few times at approx 5 Bucks a month. I just buy when I know I can play usually Christmas and other holidays. Total 20 Bucks.

Wi Fi (hard wired to router using Ethernet cable supplied)

Cooler Fans (Dont use any additional cooling)

Oh Had to Buy a HDMI cable as none came supplied cost 10 bucks.

So now you know of someone who kept their budget under that of the PS3

Your logic is fundemenatlly flawed, if the credit crunch is affecting sony it would mean they need to make MORE money not LESS.  They cut the price and they lose cash, with the current downturn it is more likely Sony keeps selling them at the current price and making money which is what they need to focus on.

 ==> selling a 400$ console at +50k/weekly is far from being bad.

SO YES, US sales say u are wrong.

US sales are going very well for the price plus one price cut from sony and watch those PS3 go flying I just hope it comes early 2009

PS3 doesn't need a pricecut. Little Big Planet is coming up, and that game will single-handedly save the PS3, sell millions of copies, attract tons of casuals and move truckloads of hardware. The fanboys say so.

..Like MGS4, GTAIV and all those others before it. :p

Also, Xbox360 is cheaper than PS3, it's only 149 bucks now. Yes that's a stripped-down-to-bare-minimum version, but that's beside the point, it's WAY cheaper than what PS3s cost. And a lot of people don't give a pair of fetid dingo's kidneys about wifi, HDD and all thos extra bells and whistles, even if that may be beyond the ability of some people's brains to cope with. Xbox360 is the cheapest current-gen console on the market, end of story.