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@Dodece: TFU will be forgotten right after Lightsaber Duels comes out after a few weeks.

Btw. LMAO @description of Diomedes.



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Dodece said:
I freely admit I dislike Diomedes. He views the world from a singular biased viewpoint. He doesn't even have multiple biases so he is utterly single minded. What is good for the PS3 must be true. To him the PS3 is mother, the PS3 is father, they are family. I often see him in my minds eye building his room to pay homage to his console. I even see him getting aroused once he turns the machine on. Thus he will defend any blight upon the PS3 with a single minded determination.

To be honest Dodece, even if you dislike the guy a great deal, insulting him is uncalled for.

NPD could well show different results from VGchartz, but some posters need to stop crying out from the highest towers "Wait for NPD!" as it really does sound like a broken record.

We understand that numbers could be altered down the line. However, if your a member on this site I think you should discuss the numbers before you, not the possible figures due to a potential adjustment down the line.

 



 

Dodece said:
I freely admit I dislike Diomedes. He views the world from a singular biased viewpoint. He doesn't even have multiple biases so he is utterly single minded. What is good for the PS3 must be true. To him the PS3 is mother, the PS3 is father, they are family. I often see him in my minds eye building his room to pay homage to his console. I even see him getting aroused once he turns the machine on. Thus he will defend any blight upon the PS3 with a single minded determination.

 

 Wow ,that shows how wrong you are.Look ,I have two careers and gaming isnt but one of my main interests,and for sure not the one I put more passion into.I didnt even own a PS2 and was a proud Xbox and Game Cube owner.This generationm ,though ,I like the PS3 better.For me it offers the best of two worlds(core gaming and casual offerings) and it is (again for me) the best machine around.Other things like its use of free software(OpenGL ,Linux,Java,free online,etc)and the compatibility with PC accesories (instead of expensive official accesories) only makes my sympathy for it further.I usually own all the machines each generation,and I will probably buy a 360 sometime just to play some of the exclusive games.

I think the PS3 is a great machine,it has a great catalogue already (and it will have one of the better catalogues ever once all is said and done)and it sells good amounts of software for its userbase.I think it will sell better and better each year ,too.

As for the other machines I appreciate the 360 for some of its exclusive games and may be getting one at some point in the future but I dislike the online fees so probably wont enter Live.The Wii ,though ,I dont like it so much.For me it hasnt offered what Nintendo promised,its technically very lacking and aside Smash ,Mario Galaxy and Metroid 3(iterations of Cube games that werent so inferior )its best games are ports of PS2 and Game Cube games .

Now in this page I have some dillemma ,because there are lots of Wii fans and being a sales site everything that matters seems to be sales .Nobody is denying the Wii is selling by the bucketloads.But I think its also clear ,and other posters seems to agree with me ,that it isnt the PS2 succesor some are wishing it was.It wont get the best games ,its technically very far away from the other machines ,its online is lacking ,the controls are not for each and every game genre ,it wont get the main series anytime soon ,the list goes on.If you look at the Top 50 sales for Wii and DS its clear what you see ...the Nintendo franchises ,the new no-games and shovelware.

I dont have any problem with the Wii being in the market and covering this spot for casual gaming and gimmicky atraction.It will have too some solid core offerings.The problem comes when the Wii fans try to impose this as the only future available "because of the sales".They dont accept a no for response.

As for the sales at least we agree on something.We have seen vast differencies in the Top Ten between NPD and vgchartz.And Vgchartz sometimes have changed their numbers and sometimes ...not.A good example is the Madden data for the PS3 in August...were NPD had for US only 650K..and vgchartz still has it under 700K for august and september with all america combined.I feel that if the Top Ten numbers are so screwed up sometimes the games with range 50-200 (and the site tracks even more) can have differences so big that we are talking over thin air if we are to use those numbers.

Now ,again in the subject I see the PS3 version of TFU beating the Wii one in each and every "official" chart we have had access to.Germany ,UK ,Spain ,Sweden ,you name it.In some of those countries the Wii has about the same difference in userbase with the PS3 ,as Germany and UK.Yet the PS3 version outsold the Wii one.I only remarked this.I think its a logic remark.But the wii fan horde resident here cant stand such a remark with the usual"lol for you everything is undertracked" " you hate the Wii" " wii hater" etc...something really boring and really really old now that we talk about this.



@Diomedes: Stop it with the BULLSHIT already. You keep on repeating things like "Wii is for soccer moms, old people and little children" "Wii is a gimmick" "PS3 is undertracked waaahhh ".

Cut the crap and people will take you seriously. You sound like a small kid trying to get what he wants no matter what. You need to enter into the stage of acceptance, you are still in denial.



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@Diomedes: Stop it with the BULLSHIT already. You keep on repeating things like "Wii is for soccer moms, old people and little children" "Wii is a gimmick" "PS3 is undertracked waaahhh ".

Cut the crap and people will take you seriously. You sound like a small kid trying to get what he wants no matter what. You need to enter into the stage of acceptance, you are still in denial.

 

 I stand for my opinion.I know I wont be getting anything ,specially of the likes of you.And I am not saying any bullshit.I have said the Wii sells more because its cheaper ,has a fresh appeal because of the wiimote and the combination of both is that it sells ot more demographics ,between them the old people and soccer moms that wouldnt touch a console otherwise.Thats hardly saying anything wrong.I havent said that all or most of the wii users are that kind of gamers.But what makes the Wii exceptionally succesful is the access to those demographics ,not its great lineup that is ,quite frankly ,the worst of the three machines by far.The only one crying around is you ,who cant stand my opinion and need to discredit it somehow.You fail.



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It may have something to do with the Wii version being the best version of the game but I am not sure because the 360 version outsold the superior Wii version.



 

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I hope you understand how I see him is not necessarily how he happens to be. I think all of us have a mental image of who another poster is in our own head. I gave mine for Diomedes as to say I would never willingly agree with this poster under almost any circumstance save if by dumb luck he happened to be correct about something.

Ironically I am perhaps the only poster in this thread not attacking Diomedes, or not dismissing him. Basically everyone in this thread has the same image of Diomedes as I personally have. Lets have a show of hands how many people think Diomedes is a well balanced even headed individual. That is why he got shit on. I am perhaps the only person that put their bias aside, and actually gave him the benefit of the doubt. While I do not think the logic he necessarily provided was wrong. I do think regardless of the data he was already probably correct.

This thread is actually quite the laugh riot, because there is no good reason to be excited about the sales of this particular title to begin with. I know why Diomedes has attacked the figures. A game for multiple platforms selling more on the Wii is a blasphemy that must be erased. He simply cannot tolerate this so he will fashion as many arguments as needed to expunge this from existence.

However why people defended the greater sales on the Wii for this title is a particular mystery to yours truly. This game is the definition of crap with a great license. I am not alone look at the reviews and the outrage. Am I the only one shocked by the outrage? Lucasarts is known to be a no talent developer that makes god awful games. Why would this surprise anyone. Anyway both sides are fighting for ownership of a piece of dog crap. How pathetic is that. How desperate are you to prove a point any point that you will play with this double edged sword.

Sure PS3 losing to the Wii is a kind of victory, but it is also a kind of defeat for the Wii. That would just add more evidence to the file that Wii owners lack certain standards when it comes to games. There is really nothing to be gained by arguing.



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Dodece said:
@Dallinor

I hope you understand how I see him is not necessarily how he happens to be. I think all of us have a mental image of who another poster is in our own head. I gave mine for Diomedes as to say I would never willingly agree with this poster under almost any circumstance save if by dumb luck he happened to be correct about something.

Ironically I am perhaps the only poster in this thread not attacking Diomedes, or not dismissing him. Basically everyone in this thread has the same image of Diomedes as I personally have. Lets have a show of hands how many people think Diomedes is a well balanced even headed individual. That is why he got shit on. I am perhaps the only person that put their bias aside, and actually gave him the benefit of the doubt. While I do not think the logic he necessarily provided was wrong. I do think regardless of the data he was already probably correct.

This thread is actually quite the laugh riot, because there is no good reason to be excited about the sales of this particular title to begin with. I know why Diomedes has attacked the figures. A game for multiple platforms selling more on the Wii is a blasphemy that must be erased. He simply cannot tolerate this so he will fashion as many arguments as needed to expunge this from existence. 

You have all wrong.I dont think its a blasphemy a Wii multi games sells more that the PS3 iteration.Its just not the norm,and judging for what we have seen of the charts of the rest of the countries (where the Wii has the same advantage in userbase in many of those) its quite logic to think this data could be wrong .

I dont care if you think or not I am a well balanced individual.I know I am ,you dont know anything about me and I know everything thats the difference.This site has some very nasty fanboys ,many of them with the same loves and hates.But three ,four or twenty fanboys arent anything more right that one.

I am sorry you got banned ,I didnt feel offended by your comments.I did find them coming from prejuice and laughable ,but wasnt offended.

 



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