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konnichiwa on 24 September 2008
Onyxmeth said:
konnichiwa said:
Onyxmeth said:
konnichiwa said:
Onyxmeth said:

The poblem is that the PSP is losing western support. It's basically dropped off the map outside of a few multiplatform releases. Those are primarily sports games too. Japanese support I would say is a bit sickly in direct comparison to the DS, but not dead in the least, considering they have the backing of Konami, Capcom, Square Enix, Atlus and Level-5 still. Part of the problem is that the PS2's support is drying up and that was always a main cause for healthy levels of PSP support, PS2 ports.

So the real question is, why has westen support dried up completely? None of the future big releases on PSP come from westen developers outside of a built for the PSP version of Midnight Club LA Remix, which happens to be multiplatform.


You forgot Resistance Retribution.  To be fair Western support for handhelds are never that great and most of the time it is garbage...

Hmm and I can't really name that much new western DS games  except for Bioware's sonic RPG.

 

I was under the impression we were talking about third party support, not first party. Resistance Retribution is a first party game.

Also there are plenty of big western games on the DS. One of the biggest just came out this Summer...Guitar Hero: On Tour.

 

Insomniac is not first party though.

And I talked about games that have to release, Guitar Hero is already released for more than a month now?

 

Insomniac isn't making Resistance Retribution. Some studio called Sony Bend is making it. They're the same guys that do the Syphon Filter series on PSP. They ARE first party.

Relevant upcoming western third party DS releases are Sonic Chronicles, Spectrobes 2, Mushroom Men, My Sims Kingdom, Ninjatown, Touchmaster 2, Quantum of Solace, Tom Clancy's Endwar, Monster Lab, Ultimate Band, Call of Duty: World At War, Star Wars: The Clone Wars-Jedi Alliance, Shaun White Snowboarding, Guitar Hero: On Tour-Decades, Need of Speed Undercover, Moon, Rayman Raving Rabbids TV Party, Age of Empires Mythologies, Tony Hawk's Motion featuring Hue Pixel Painter, The Lord of the Rings: Conquest, Prince of Persia: The Fallen King, Gauntlet, Peggle, de Blob, Dragon's Lair, Indiana Jones and the Staff of Kings, Secret Files: Tunguska, Skate It, and Warlords DS.

That's just what's on board for 2008. Here's what's in store(so far) for 2009.

Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars, Ghostbusters, Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 Fusion, Roogoo, Puzzle Quest: Galactrix, Duke Nukem Trilogy, Overlord: Minions, and Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Conviction.

 

They aren't? Damned that sux.

And exactcly how many of those Western Titles are going to end up being great?  Less than 5? Compared to the titles coming from Japanese devs?

 






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Dgc1808 on 24 September 2008

I think it will continue it's current path and due decently.



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Onyxmeth on 24 September 2008
konnichiwa said:
Onyxmeth said:

Insomniac isn't making Resistance Retribution. Some studio called Sony Bend is making it. They're the same guys that do the Syphon Filter series on PSP. They ARE first party.

Relevant upcoming western third party DS releases are Sonic Chronicles, Spectrobes 2, Mushroom Men, My Sims Kingdom, Ninjatown, Touchmaster 2, Quantum of Solace, Tom Clancy's Endwar, Monster Lab, Ultimate Band, Call of Duty: World At War, Star Wars: The Clone Wars-Jedi Alliance, Shaun White Snowboarding, Guitar Hero: On Tour-Decades, Need of Speed Undercover, Moon, Rayman Raving Rabbids TV Party, Age of Empires Mythologies, Tony Hawk's Motion featuring Hue Pixel Painter, The Lord of the Rings: Conquest, Prince of Persia: The Fallen King, Gauntlet, Peggle, de Blob, Dragon's Lair, Indiana Jones and the Staff of Kings, Secret Files: Tunguska, Skate It, and Warlords DS.

That's just what's on board for 2008. Here's what's in store(so far) for 2009.

Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars, Ghostbusters, Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 Fusion, Roogoo, Puzzle Quest: Galactrix, Duke Nukem Trilogy, Overlord: Minions, and Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Conviction.

 

They aren't? Damned that sux.

And exactcly how many of those Western Titles are going to end up being great?  Less than 5? Compared to the titles coming from Japanese devs?

 

That's entirely up to the consumer. I personally am interested in way more than five of those titles. Then again, I'm playing LEGO Batman and Kirby on the DS right now instead of Dragon Quest IV so obviously I don't share the common tastes of the forumgoers. I like strategy games, and there are plenty on that list. Also Moon has my undivided attention after playing the awesome Dementium.

The Japanese devs are too stuck on RPGs right now, and I do not exclusively play PRGs. I like a mix of genres so obviously I will venture to the quality western developers on DS for my non-RPG needs.

 



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coolestguyever on 24 September 2008

PSP is better than DS



Hawkeye on 24 September 2008

Fits in perfect with my plan. Buy PSP Febuary 2008 for $200 W/ daxter pack. Buy cheap games for $20 each. Keep doing that until october 2009, when PSP2 comes out. PSP games drop to $10-$15, I buy the remaining 35 games I wanted over the next 2 years. End up with 50 PSP games, and then buy the PSP2 and DS2 for $200 and $130-$150. (Though I will get DS2 Sooner probably so I can play mario kart, smash, Mario, and Zelda.)



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hunter_alien on 24 September 2008

Hmmm let us see: hardware makes money. Check. Big players like Sony, Capcom, SE, Namco-Bandai, Konami, EA are making money on software. Check. Japanese game library increasing a lot. Check. Sony promisses more 3rd party syupport next year, Gamestop aknowledges and says its true.... so no I dont think that its dead, or that it will be anytime soon ;)



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jlauro on 24 September 2008

I don't understand why people think the PSP suffers more from piracy than the DS. It's easier to pirate games for the DS IMO.

My daughter has both (I only play consoles), and she rarely purchases or even wants PSP games. She literally has 5-10 DS games for every PSP game, and never pirates either system.

The problem with the PSP vs DS is the cost per game. The DS games are more affordable. Plus the PSP has longer load times. So, to put it simply, for things that matter to most consumers, the DS is better than PSP.



leo-j on 24 September 2008

The psp is an amazing handheld, it can offer so many things, pirates are completely killing it.



 

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Hawkeye on 24 September 2008
axumblade said:
labrats5 said:
axumblade said:
labrats5 said:

@mike_intellivision

What are you smoking? The PSone and PS2 were billed as multifunctional CD and DVD players respectively. They were huge selling points early in their lives, particularly for the PS2. It was one of the big things that killed the Dreamcast actually: the PS2's DVD player was the reason a lot of people waited for it.

The reason this didn't work for the PSP was that it wasn't a particularly good multifuctional device. UMD was a terrible idea from the beginning. Being able to play digital media was aslo bsically useles without either an online store or any built in storage (particularly that last bit). On launch, 2gb memory sticks cost upward of $50; another proprietary format that bit Sony in the ass.

The point is that it is rediculously stupid to say that being multi-functional is somehow a handicap. As long as all those functions work well and work well together, it is a huge boon. Many times they can actually be synergetic, as in the case of Monster Rancher, or the location-based functionality of many iphone games, or simply the abilty to play your own music on the same device when the soundtrack sucks. What killed the PSP was poor execution of its non-gaming functionality (especially UMD), as well as rampant piracy.

I'm not sure if it's confirmed but I've heard they are going to make the Playstation Network accessible through the PSP and they are going to start doing more releases via the PSN then. Also, you'll be able to download movies (and if Sony are smart, put access to digital music). It will also cut down on piracy supposedly because it would be a direct download from the PSN. This could be wrong information that I was given though.

 

It is very probable. But it is not enough. With no onboard storage, as well as the expensive proprietary memory stick, the PSP has no good storage solution. No matter how good their online store is, it is only as good as their storage allows it to be.

What a lot of people don't understand is that if Sony had released the exact same PSP except with no media functionality at all, it would have sold better. While well executed media functionalty can help sell a platform, bad functionality can stop it from selling, even if it doesn't hurt the gaming aspect of it. It hurts the reputation of the platform when a function that was billed as system selling ends up beinga dud. And that failure takes the focus away from what really matters: the games.

 

One fortunate thing is that the cost of the memory sticks are dropping. Unfortunately there aren't like "100 gb" ones out yet but then again, I still haven't filled up my 1 gb. X_x

 

 

Here's the problem; pirating movies/music is tons easier than buying some and converting it, or buying CD's or DVDs and converting them. And if you are going to pirate those media, why not games? (though you do have to crack firmware to do that, something I have not and will not do- I was going to in order to play BK again, but since its coming to Xbox live I wont)



Hawkeye on 24 September 2008
fkusumot said:

Well I love my PSP:

But my tastes are very similiar to the Japanese market. Hell, three of my games are imports. The telling point is that the majority of the games I would play on a console but have ported over to handheld only. Sony turned the PSP into a portable-console and it competes in the same market as the PS2. Guess what, PS2 sales are still going strong! When Sony has moved PS2 exclusives over to the PSP and made it a PSP exclusive those titles have done pretty well. When Sony finally kills the PS2 that is when PSP, or perhaps by that time PSP2, will have better support and software sales.

This is my view. Also, I dont hasve a ps or ps2. I got FFT for $28 a while ago, but I'm wating for Disgaea to go to $20. Any chance of Disgaea 2 coming to PSP?