Laserdisc was popular in Japan too. That country is full of videophiles.
| FinalEvangelion said: I know around here in Japan, Blu-ray has a much better market share than it does in the US. Blu-ray recorders are very popular because it is a great way for people to record their HD shows and keep the same quality. I don't think the US has any BD recorders as of yet because of all the red-tape to get through the Copyright laws. Here, they sell BD recorders and BD-R discs at grocery stores. BD-R discs only run about $3-6 each, with $6 being for BD-RE. Anyway, I've always seen BD taking off more when recorder drives in computers / standalone drives get cheaper. I'm not sure why there is such a big technology gap between Japan and US. I do remember in 2005 when I was in Japan, stores were primarily displaying HDTVs while in America, they were still displaying SDTVs, primarily. 2007 is when we started seeing HDTVs more in America. With Digital Downloads eventually (which they are still at .6% of the US Video market according to NPD), Blu-ray recorders could be a nice asset for storage. |
well, I guess that means I'll be moving to Japan!
crap. now i have to try learn Japanese...lol
but are you serious? $6 for a BD-R? Wow.
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holy shite that is cheap, just the blanks are running us $17-4x for 25-50gb
http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/switch-language/product/B0013U1WE4/ref=dp_change_lang?ie=UTF8&language=en_JP
Here is a pack of 10 for a little over $40.
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| FinalEvangelion said: http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/switch-language/product/B0013U1WE4/ref=dp_change_lang?ie=UTF8&language=en_JP Here is a pack of 10 for a little over $40. |
*packs bags for Japan*
*sings(badly)* I'm leaving on a jetplane...
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Problem is the difference between DVD and Blu Ray doesn't justify the difference in price between DVDs and Blu Ray. As a result I think Blu Ray will always struggle unless movie makers decide they want to kill off DVD (maybe because they have been bribed by blu-ray manufacturers) and stop releasing movies on DVD altogether, thereby forcing people to buy blu-ray.
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I think Blu Ray is being adopted and these articles are a tad bit on the pessimistic side.
Rob6021 said:
It only costs about 10% more to make a Blu ray disk vs a DVD rom disk when using mass duplication methods. Sure theres a bit more that goes into 'tuning' up the film and extras for 6x resolution - but I hightly doubt it is really all that much. Besides they've spent a long time finding the sweet spot for what people would want to buy a DVD for - blu ray customers really arn't all that different. |
10%? maybe in terms of raw manufacturing. You're dismissing the security features and extra UI that's put in there. Once you add the licensing costs of a newer format with new tech, it'll come out alot more than 10%.
| tuoyo said: Problem is the difference between DVD and Blu Ray doesn't justify the difference in price between DVDs and Blu Ray. As a result I think Blu Ray will always struggle unless movie makers decide they want to kill off DVD (maybe because they have been bribed by blu-ray manufacturers) and stop releasing movies on DVD altogether, thereby forcing people to buy blu-ray. |
But aren't there a lot of DVD manufacturers who also manufacture Blu-Ray? (Sony, TDK etc)
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| FinalEvangelion said: I know around here in Japan, Blu-ray has a much better market share than it does in the US. Blu-ray recorders are very popular because it is a great way for people to record their HD shows and keep the same quality. I don't think the US has any BD recorders as of yet because of all the red-tape to get through the Copyright laws. Here, they sell BD recorders and BD-R discs at grocery stores. BD-R discs only run about $3-6 each, with $6 being for BD-RE. Anyway, I've always seen BD taking off more when recorder drives in computers / standalone drives get cheaper. I'm not sure why there is such a big technology gap between Japan and US. I do remember in 2005 when I was in Japan, stores were primarily displaying HDTVs while in America, they were still displaying SDTVs, primarily. 2007 is when we started seeing HDTVs more in America. With Digital Downloads eventually (which they are still at .6% of the US Video market according to NPD), Blu-ray recorders could be a nice asset for storage. |
In occurance with NPD numbers for downloads that is a massive underestimate for movies via online services.
NPD do not include the following:
1. streaming figures
2. downloads via monthly payments
These 2 above are the most common types of usage through online services for movies in HD.
NPD figures only account for fully paid HD films that are downloaded. the % figure is about 35% off.
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