El Duderino said: 786_ali said: El Duderino said: The whole point of pirating is not paying.... !!! FAIL !!! JK   actually the point of piracy is paying less  Have you ever heard of a pirat entering a ship saying: " Give us your spices and gold..." then he takes out his walet and adds: "I am willing to pay for it all.... BUT NOT FULL PRICE MUAHAHAHAHAHAH !!!" No ??? Thats because piracy is stealing and you don´t pay anything for it... you are just paying the pirate because you don´t have the opportunity or abbility to steal it yourself...

 

He means bootlegging or whatever you call it.

^^ I know... but the way he put it it sounded like if he pirated a blizzard game that one dollar he is paying goes right to blizzard when blizzard actually gets zero and he is paying another person for downloading and copying it...

What His Dudeness said.

I personally dont pirate, though I do have a degree of sympathy for people where legal games are actually quite hard to buy and are ridiculously over priced

However, when it is spreading into places like the US and EU it is not. It hurts the developers, and it also funds worse activities

Music - Nearly all of the music I listen to comes from Japan and Europe. If not for P2P, I wouldn't even be able to hear it, and after import prices and shipping, I'd be paying about $40/CD. I have bought over fifty CD's since I started using P2P although most of them I've bought used. The point is, without P2P, I wouldn't have ever gotten into any of the music I listen to at all because that's pretty much the only way to even hear it. There's also the fact that a great deal of the music I have is out of print/discontinued.

Movies - All the time, and if I really like the movie, meaning that I'll watch it regularly, then I'll certainly buy it; however, if it's some movie that I'm only going to watch once or twice, then I certainly won't buy it, and I'll probably just delete it. I'll just catch it on HBO or use Netflix if I want to watch it at some point in the future.

Video Games - Like above, If I like it, I'll buy it. Most of the games I've downloaded are roms from past systems which were long ago out of print/discontinued anyway.

largedarryl said: @Dude, lmfao. @OT, I live in Canada and you can't buy pirated copies of games anywhere (or maybe there is and I'm really out of the loop).

 

Duuuudddeee, pirating is present in Canada, but ESPECIALLY IN THE GTA (Greater Toronto Area for people who don't know)

I can't emphasize how BIG pirating is in the GTA.

Let me give you couple examples:

Where I live, a city close to Toronto (Mississauga, if your curious), there is a flea market. And it which sells a bunch of PIRATED MOVIES, GAMES, AND FAKES (Purses, Shoes, Clothing ETC!). As a matter of fact, I remember reading the biggest Canadian pirated movie bust was in that flea market, not to long ago (6 months), I'll find the article.

http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20070821/pirated_dvd_bust_070821/20070821?hub=TorontoHome

^ If you read that, it says it's not the first time this has happened. There have been 3 previous busts on this flea market, but they keep springing up.

Also, In Markham, Ontario, there is a Chinese Indoor Mall (called Pacific Mall, which is the largest Chinese indoor mall in North America). There are atleast 20 stores that sell pirated DVD's. You name it, 1 for $4, 4 for $10, 10 for $20. They all sell the identical movies during a movies release (most likely cam'ed, or maybe a rip after a week or so) which leads me to think they are all supplied by the same supplier >_>.

There are game stores in that mall that openly advertise modding PS2's & 360's, selling flash-carts for DS, firmware hacking for PSP's. And the couple times I went, it seems these stores are getting a lot of business, with a lot of customers buying pirated games. I personally didn't buy any games, but I did want to check out a DVD for 4 bucks. I totally regret it, worst quality ever! it was unplayable. Some parts were shot using a camcorder in the theatre, then randomly it switched to the DVD rip for a scene or two then back to the camera version. I WAS LIKE WTF?!

And this is common knowledge, there are all sold outside stores on stands for everyone to look at and see.

This goes to show that not much is being done in preventing bigger groups in selling tons of pirated DVD's, games etc.

If I was the FBI or whatever, I would definantly target the sellers/suppliers man, honostly.

 

 

Lebanon is king of piracy baby!... but i buy original for my wii though:P... and PS3... and PS2... yeah i'm a goody good guy in my country:S