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chenguo4 said:
Starcraft, you can keep being stubborn, but I'm gonna lay it down straight:

the 360's only beating the PS3 in terms of RPG sales by default. Sure, the 360 is the only console proven to sell jrpg's decent (though still nothing over 1 mil). But it's winning a one pony race.

For the sake of your credibility, I'd wait until the PS3's been thoroughly tested in its jrpg sellig ability before declaring the 360 the jrpg sales leader. White Knight Chronicles would probably be a good preview of the PS3's jrpg pushing abilities. FF 13's 360 vs PS3 sales will be THE test.

Until then there's really not much to be said.

And for the record, I don't doubt for a second KH3 and FFv13 will sell multiple millions. And that'll be several times the sales of the best selling 360 jrpg, which would be what, Lost Odyssey? Which'll probably max out at just over 1 mil.

 

 Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy are two of the highest selling RPG series in history. The 360 has yet to get a JRPG series like that, so your comparing apples to oranges with that comment.


Saying Final Fantasy XIII would be the test is also flawed. Even if you drop Japan, most people who are gonna have wanted FFXIII would have bought in PS3 in the howevermanyyears it was still exclusive.


And three...Folklore, Enchanted Arms, Disgaea 3, and next month Eternal Sonata. I think comparing the consoles is quite possible. 



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isnt WKC a SRPG ?



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Skeeuk said:
yes this is true, it was originally pencilled in for ps360, then went 360 only, it will be timed like eternal sonata.

if eternal sonata sells more on ps3 then namco should be condemed for that, as they choose backpayment, over raising thier gaming profile

WRONG !

ToV was never PS360 and went 360 only.

Seihyouken said:

The only JRPG released on the PS3 is Enchanted Arms and it sold better on PS3 than on 360 despite being a port that was released months later.

And that's exactly the problem. It is the ONLY JRPG (at that time), so you couldn't have any choice. Besides that VGChartz hasn't tracked the EU data for the game which could be pro PS3, but also be pro 360 cause it's longer released there.



hope White Knight Story will sell well ... for TOV its better to go multiplatform because i think no one should miss this game.



I think everyone was right on the money. How is the 360 the "proven seller" when it's really the only one? And then the "PS3 elitists" comment.......I'm pretty sure that whatever comparison you made with that....will be true. Why? Japan. The install base there crushes that of the 360, and they are obviously the ones who buy up the most JRPGs. Secondly. Europe. It's only going to be a few short weeks before the PS3 passes it there, so that only leaves America, but that can't and won't be the saving grace



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Shadowblind said:
chenguo4 said:
Starcraft, you can keep being stubborn, but I'm gonna lay it down straight:

the 360's only beating the PS3 in terms of RPG sales by default. Sure, the 360 is the only console proven to sell jrpg's decent (though still nothing over 1 mil). But it's winning a one pony race.

For the sake of your credibility, I'd wait until the PS3's been thoroughly tested in its jrpg sellig ability before declaring the 360 the jrpg sales leader. White Knight Chronicles would probably be a good preview of the PS3's jrpg pushing abilities. FF 13's 360 vs PS3 sales will be THE test.

Until then there's really not much to be said.

And for the record, I don't doubt for a second KH3 and FFv13 will sell multiple millions. And that'll be several times the sales of the best selling 360 jrpg, which would be what, Lost Odyssey? Which'll probably max out at just over 1 mil.

 

 Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy are two of the highest selling RPG series in history. The 360 has yet to get a JRPG series like that, so your comparing apples to oranges with that comment.


Saying Final Fantasy XIII would be the test is also flawed. Even if you drop Japan, most people who are gonna have wanted FFXIII would have bought in PS3 in the howevermanyyears it was still exclusive.


And three...Folklore, Enchanted Arms, Disgaea 3, and next month Eternal Sonata. I think comparing the consoles is quite possible. 

 

Regarding KH3 and FFv13... Ok, true, we probably can't compare 360's jrpg sales to PS3's jrpg sales because really, KH and FF belong in a  league of their own. It might not say anything for PS3's strength as a jrpg pusher since they'd sell on anything. BUT, the fact that these titles are PS3 exclusive gives lots of points to the quality of the PS3's jrpg experience when they release.

 

FF13: Well, when FF13 360 was announced the 360 was leading the PS3 out of Japan by god knows how many million. So, since we're arguing anecdotally on this point: how many people went, "whew, now I don't have to buy a PS3 for FF13!"

 

And lastly. Folklore is not an rpg. There's no leveling. There's no shops for buying armor and items. GameFAQs lists it under Action Adventure. Gamespot lists it as Fantasy Action Adventure. IGN has it as just Adventure. It has minimal rpg elements, that's it. It's essentially Zelda minus the puzzles.

Disgaea 3 is an rpg, but it's a srpg, which obviously sell lower than traditional rpgs. By Starcraft's faulty argument, I can just as easily claim that the Wii > PS3 >>>> 360 in srpg. Wii has Fire Emblem. PS3 has Disgaea and Valkyria Chronicles. What does the 360 have?

So that leaves us with Enchanted Arms. Where PS3 > 360, when 360 had a huge install base lead over the PS3. 

But I'll hand you a bone, and say that on just one game we can't judge PS3 versus 360's jrpg peddling ability. Call it small sample size.

We have to wait for Eternal Sonata and Last Remnant, and possibly Tales of Vesperia to come out on the PS3. And keep in mind that these titles hit the 360 first, so by the time they're on the PS3 the hype would have died down tremendously. And after that, we can talk PS3 versus 360.




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And I should have Tales of Vesperia (of course on the 360) in a matter of hours, if UPS doesn't take their time



Shadowblind said:
chenguo4 said:
Starcraft, you can keep being stubborn, but I'm gonna lay it down straight:

the 360's only beating the PS3 in terms of RPG sales by default. Sure, the 360 is the only console proven to sell jrpg's decent (though still nothing over 1 mil). But it's winning a one pony race.

For the sake of your credibility, I'd wait until the PS3's been thoroughly tested in its jrpg sellig ability before declaring the 360 the jrpg sales leader. White Knight Chronicles would probably be a good preview of the PS3's jrpg pushing abilities. FF 13's 360 vs PS3 sales will be THE test.

Until then there's really not much to be said.

And for the record, I don't doubt for a second KH3 and FFv13 will sell multiple millions. And that'll be several times the sales of the best selling 360 jrpg, which would be what, Lost Odyssey? Which'll probably max out at just over 1 mil.

 

 Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy are two of the highest selling RPG series in history. The 360 has yet to get a JRPG series like that, so your comparing apples to oranges with that comment.


Saying Final Fantasy XIII would be the test is also flawed. Even if you drop Japan, most people who are gonna have wanted FFXIII would have bought in PS3 in the howevermanyyears it was still exclusive.


And three...Folklore, Enchanted Arms, Disgaea 3, and next month Eternal Sonata. I think comparing the consoles is quite possible. 

I don't think it's really possible yet, and that's what makes this argument such a moot point. It's kind of hard to hold a game as niche as Disgaea 3 against the PS3's ability to sell JRPGs, though it has sold dismally in North America so far. When the PS3 gets some more mainstream, exclusive (or better yet, day and date multiplatform) JRPGs, then we'll be able to judge.

I do think it's laughable that so many PS3 fans consider every 360 JRPG to be a failure for not cracking one million. Plenty of them didn't crack a million on the PS2.



badgenome said:
Shadowblind said:
chenguo4 said:
Starcraft, you can keep being stubborn, but I'm gonna lay it down straight:

the 360's only beating the PS3 in terms of RPG sales by default. Sure, the 360 is the only console proven to sell jrpg's decent (though still nothing over 1 mil). But it's winning a one pony race.

For the sake of your credibility, I'd wait until the PS3's been thoroughly tested in its jrpg sellig ability before declaring the 360 the jrpg sales leader. White Knight Chronicles would probably be a good preview of the PS3's jrpg pushing abilities. FF 13's 360 vs PS3 sales will be THE test.

Until then there's really not much to be said.

And for the record, I don't doubt for a second KH3 and FFv13 will sell multiple millions. And that'll be several times the sales of the best selling 360 jrpg, which would be what, Lost Odyssey? Which'll probably max out at just over 1 mil.

 

 Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy are two of the highest selling RPG series in history. The 360 has yet to get a JRPG series like that, so your comparing apples to oranges with that comment.


Saying Final Fantasy XIII would be the test is also flawed. Even if you drop Japan, most people who are gonna have wanted FFXIII would have bought in PS3 in the howevermanyyears it was still exclusive.


And three...Folklore, Enchanted Arms, Disgaea 3, and next month Eternal Sonata. I think comparing the consoles is quite possible. 

I don't think it's really possible yet, and that's what makes this argument such a moot point. It's kind of hard to hold a game as niche as Disgaea 3 against the PS3's ability to sell JRPGs, though it has sold dismally in North America so far. When the PS3 gets some more mainstream, exclusive (or better yet, day and date multiplatform) JRPGs, then we'll be able to judge.

I do think it's laughable that so many PS3 fans consider every 360 JRPG to be a failure for not cracking one million. Plenty of them didn't crack a million on the PS2.

 

Not directed at me I hope? Forgive me for assuming, but I think I was the only one who brought up the number 1 million this thread. And in no way do I think 360 jrpgs are failrues. This is what I said verbatim:

"Sure, the 360 is the only console proven to sell jrpg's decent (though still nothing over 1 mil)."

 

And that decent is for 360's jrpgs as an aggregate, the Lost Odysseys and the Blue Dragons as well as whatever shit games there were. I consider LO and BD successful sales wise, but not superb.

 




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Awesome. Well stated.