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ZenfoldorVGI on 10 September 2008
jake_the_fake1 said:
Despite what people say, ToV will make it's way to the PS3, there is allot of money to be made from the Japanese people that want this game.

 

I agree, and I really hope it's true.



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Tbone on 10 September 2008

It keeps going, actually i think its more likely that a new Tales game comes for ps3 than Tales of vesperia.



 

Reasonable on 10 September 2008
starcraft said:
Reasonable said:
starcraft said:

You had, and in this post continued to, change two key elements of what I was saying.

As there are a few other people (chenguo, DMeisterJ) in this thread who took issue with what I was NOT saying rather than what I WAS saying they can consider this post my response to their comments as well.

First of all, you have posted with regard to "RPG's," but I have only been discussing "JRPG's."

Secondly, I have not once said that the PS3 will never sell large quantities of JRPG's.  I have said that it has not proven itself capable of doing so.  The highest selling JRPG on the PS3 sold 110k.  You can argue that this is by default, you can argue that it is due to the Xbox 360's headstart (though the Wii launched at the same time as the PS3 and has a 700k selling JRPG) and you can argue that this is all due to Microsoft moneyhatting publishers.  But at the end of the day this doesn't change the simple fact that you (or me) claiming the PS3 can sell JRPG's in large quantities is an assumption.

It may or may not be a reasonable or logical assumption, I have not once passed judgement on that argument in this thread.  But unless you have access to sales charts I do not, for games that I was not aware existed, you cannot possibly tell me you are not making the assumption that JRPG's can sell well on the PS3.

At least not reasonably......

 

There doesn't seem to be one jRPG on PS3 yet with data tracked in all territories so with regard to PS3 all you can say is its potential is unproven.

If you'd paid any real attention to what I have been saying then you would realise that the above is literally all I have been saying.  The PS3 has no demonstratable ability to sell JRPG's.

Its funny that you agree with that point, but are all over me instead of correcting the many Sony fans in this thread that emphatically declare that the PS3 can, without a doubt, shift vast numbers of JRPG's.

 

 

Yeah but it's more fun to pick on you   Actually it was the bit about developers chosing 360 based on results I was picking on.  MS paid for those games as you'd have been mad (when 360 had no jRPG titles) to chose 360 over PS3 or Wii given the Japanese install base.  Now I'm not calling moneyhatting or anything, MS simply stumped up to back games like Blue Dragon etc. and I say good for them for backing their console.  But no developer yet has had time to say 'wow 360 sells jRPGs better' and develop and release a game for the platform IMHO and the comment seemed flamebaity to me.

As for those saying PS3 will automatically sell jRPGs it's pretty clear it probably will - but I'm not sure it'll sell them that much better than 360 in Japan (until either FF or it gets a few good ones released) as neither HD console has been massively embraced there even allowing for PS3's better sales than 360 they pale next to Wii and other systems.

 



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Majin-Tenshinhan on 10 September 2008
axumblade said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
Munkeh111 said:
This is old news....

@ majin, so you actually believe them when they say that?

Anyway, I hope it will, because even if it comes out 6 months after in the US, I can still import it before the game comes to Europe!!!!! (though I wont be getting it in any case)

 

Fine, then riddle me this - If they project the exact same amount of sales from a multiplat release as they do for a 360 exclusive, why would they bother releasing it on PS3 at all? It makes no sense.

 

I, however, concede that the title may well come to the PS3 eventully, but I also firmly believe that there are no such plans right now.

 

I think it's true simply because originally, they were planning on a multi-plat release. 360 doesn't always buy total exclusivity except for with Square Enix (the biggest RPG company around) because they feel that if they release a game 6 months- a year later that it will cripple the sales for the PS3, also it gives gamers who have been anticipating a game incentive to buy a 360 instead of a PS3.

Uh, what? When did they ever buy total exclusivity from SE with any game?



starcraft on 10 September 2008
Million said:

This is the nice version of what I was thinking in my head.

You cleary have no idea what your talking about , the PS3 has over 3X the install base of the 360 in Japan keeping in mind these consoles are actualy owned by not western  but mostly Japanese people .

In comparison to the 360 the PS3 has sold poorly in terms of JRPG's but then again the PS3 hasn't had a high profile JRG to date ...so how exactly are you able to proove this poorly conceived belief ?

Saying the PS3 has no demonstratable ability to sell JRPG's doesn't is so desperate it shoudln't even count as a valid point , even going by install base alone the PS3 should we able to outsell the 360 , every multiplatform game in Japan has sold better on the PS3 than it has the 360 why would JRPG's be any different ?.

Even if your JRPG argument succeeds there's an even more signifant problem , the 360 doesn't even have a million hardware sales  it cannot be a signifant mover of software in comparison to it's competition (which happen to be at the very least 3X bigger in install base) . Without the use of moneyhatts Microsoft has next to nothing to offer the devloper for exclusive games , the XBOX 360 continues to stagnate in Japan and the XBOX brand fails in Japan for yet another year.

Ok.  There is only one way to disprove what I've said.

As of this moment, what is the high selling JRPG on the PS3 that proves your argument?

 



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Xen on 10 September 2008
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
axumblade said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
Munkeh111 said:
This is old news....

@ majin, so you actually believe them when they say that?

Anyway, I hope it will, because even if it comes out 6 months after in the US, I can still import it before the game comes to Europe!!!!! (though I wont be getting it in any case)

 

Fine, then riddle me this - If they project the exact same amount of sales from a multiplat release as they do for a 360 exclusive, why would they bother releasing it on PS3 at all? It makes no sense.

 

I, however, concede that the title may well come to the PS3 eventully, but I also firmly believe that there are no such plans right now.

 

I think it's true simply because originally, they were planning on a multi-plat release. 360 doesn't always buy total exclusivity except for with Square Enix (the biggest RPG company around) because they feel that if they release a game 6 months- a year later that it will cripple the sales for the PS3, also it gives gamers who have been anticipating a game incentive to buy a 360 instead of a PS3.

Uh, what? When did they ever buy total exclusivity from SE with any game?

Infinite Undiscovery.

 



ZenfoldorVGI on 10 September 2008
Tbone said:
It keeps going, actually i think its more likely that a new Tales game comes for ps3 than Tales of vesperia.

 

If it is by Team Symphonia, then I need to get my PS3 back.

If there is a new Tales game, I hope it's multiplat, just as I hope this game goes multiplat.

That said, the footage from the symphonia sequel so far looks great.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

Acevil on 10 September 2008
ZenfoldorVGI said:
Tbone said:
It keeps going, actually i think its more likely that a new Tales game comes for ps3 than Tales of vesperia.

 

If it is by Team Symphonia, then I need to get my PS3 back.

If there is a new Tales game, I hope it's multiplat, just as I hope this game goes multiplat.

That said, the footage from the symphonia sequel so far looks great.

 

Still unlikely, I think they rather make it on the Wii or the DS.



 

Million on 10 September 2008
starcraft said:
Million said:

This is the nice version of what I was thinking in my head.

You cleary have no idea what your talking about , the PS3 has over 3X the install base of the 360 in Japan keeping in mind these consoles are actualy owned by not western  but mostly Japanese people .

In comparison to the 360 the PS3 has sold poorly in terms of JRPG's but then again the PS3 hasn't had a high profile JRG to date ...so how exactly are you able to proove this poorly conceived belief ?

Saying the PS3 has no demonstratable ability to sell JRPG's doesn't is so desperate it shoudln't even count as a valid point , even going by install base alone the PS3 should we able to outsell the 360 , every multiplatform game in Japan has sold better on the PS3 than it has the 360 why would JRPG's be any different ?.

Even if your JRPG argument succeeds there's an even more signifant problem , the 360 doesn't even have a million hardware sales  it cannot be a signifant mover of software in comparison to it's competition (which happen to be at the very least 3X bigger in install base) . Without the use of moneyhatts Microsoft has next to nothing to offer the devloper for exclusive games , the XBOX 360 continues to stagnate in Japan and the XBOX brand fails in Japan for yet another year.

Ok.  There is only one way to disprove what I've said.

As of this moment, what is the high selling JRPG on the PS3 that proves your argument?

 

 

As of this moment there a no big JRPG's on the PS3 but the XBOX 360 and PS3 have also sold to a similar demographic throughout the world , any PS3 version of a multiplatform japanese game will most outsell any 360 game.

To be straight with you I don't need any high selling JRPG's to proove my point , no 360 title has ever outsold the highest selling PS3 game ( which I believe is MGS4) it's apparent that the PS3 can shift software in ways that the 360 is incapable of doing in that region.




Majin-Tenshinhan on 10 September 2008
Xen said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
axumblade said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
Munkeh111 said:
This is old news....

@ majin, so you actually believe them when they say that?

Anyway, I hope it will, because even if it comes out 6 months after in the US, I can still import it before the game comes to Europe!!!!! (though I wont be getting it in any case)

 

Fine, then riddle me this - If they project the exact same amount of sales from a multiplat release as they do for a 360 exclusive, why would they bother releasing it on PS3 at all? It makes no sense.

 

I, however, concede that the title may well come to the PS3 eventully, but I also firmly believe that there are no such plans right now.

 

I think it's true simply because originally, they were planning on a multi-plat release. 360 doesn't always buy total exclusivity except for with Square Enix (the biggest RPG company around) because they feel that if they release a game 6 months- a year later that it will cripple the sales for the PS3, also it gives gamers who have been anticipating a game incentive to buy a 360 instead of a PS3.

Uh, what? When did they ever buy total exclusivity from SE with any game?

Infinite Undiscovery.

 

Oh, you mean the game that Microsoft owns the IP of and were making on their own until Square decided to join in? That one? Yeah, just checking.