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Paul_Warren said:

     The above is a trolling post. See, I stated my opinion on the matter then this person attempts to goad me into making yet another post with their disparaging comments. I highly, highly doubt the Wii will ever see 51 million consoles sold by March 2009 with such a weak game lineup scheduled for the rest of the year. I guess we'll just have to see how it goes.

 

 What so many of you seem to be missing is that the lineup of games coming out has almost no effect on the Wii's sales. They could release no games next year and it would probably put no dent in Wii sales. People who are buying it aren't buying it for what is coming out; I can almost guarantee you somewhere around 80 percent are buying it for Wii Sports and Wii Fit. Hospitals and rehabilitation centers are buying them to use with their patients (who will probably do nothing more than use the 2 games on them I mentioned earlier). Everyone I know who works in these fields has confirmed this. A lady I know who works at a rehabilitation center says they call it "Wii Therapy".

The truth is the Wii has surpassed the position of a mere console. It has simply become a device that everyone has, like a VCR, DVD player, computer, or even a toaster. The only difference is that there is only one maker of the device: Nintendo. It's like if suddenly only HP made computers, and not just computers, but only one type of computer, and they had to meet the demand of the entire world. There is no lull in sales, they are snatched off store shelves soon after they are placed there. A few weeks ago I was at Wal-Mart and I saw they had gotten 3 Wii's in; I went to the store again later that day and they were gone. Nintendo can't make enough to meet demand, STILL. This isn't a fad, but a phenomenon.



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why should nintendo be worried about anything?? they shouldnt be worried at all, look at how many consoles they have sold compaired to ps3 n 360



Respect for compans: SONY > NINTENDO >>>>>>>>>> MICROSOFT

 

Sullla said:
Paul_Warren said:

The above is a trolling post. See, I stated my opinion on the matter then this person attempts to goad me into making yet another post with their disparaging comments. I highly, highly doubt the Wii will ever see 51 million consoles sold by March 2009 with such a weak game lineup scheduled for the rest of the year. I guess we'll just have to see how it goes.

I apologize if the tone was overly offensive. Still, your opinion is based on absolutely nothing; it's just "I don't like Nintendo's games, so there's no way they will sell a lot of Wiis." Uhh, great...

That's nice and all, but it's pretty unconvincing given that Nintendo has stated in their own fiscal results (where lying is a federal crime) that they plan to move 51m Wiis by the end of March 2009. Look for yourself (info on page 11): http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2008/080730e.pdf

I find Nintendo's sales forecast to be a lot more persuasive than "random Internet poster."

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Paul_Warren said:
"I apologize if the tone was overly offensive. Still, your opinion is based on absolutely nothing; it's just "I don't like Nintendo's games, so there's no way they will sell a lot of Wiis." Uhh, great..."

My opinions aren't based on "nothing" as you say. They are based on watching this industry and its trends very closely since the early eighties. It doesn't look like you've been watching carefully. I think you missed the last 20 months.

Also, I have degrees in English literature, psychology, and religion plus an inherited natural ability to look deep into the minds and mindsets of people. My father was a both a leading prosecuting and criminal defense attorney in his lifetime. Ummm... that's nice, but what does any of that have to do with Nintendo's financial reports?

My opinions might seem like trolling or hocus pocus to some people; however, I swear that I am what Anton Lavey would call a great "cold reader" into trends and human behavior. Well then forgive me O great one, but I would rather believe an argument based on FACTS (like Sulla's post) than one based on your intuition.

Quite frankly sir, if this is the sort of "evidence" you're basing your opinion on, then well... maybe those cold reading skills will tell you what many people here think you should do with your "inherited natural ability"



stof said:

And the one reason why they don't have to worry

Theyre japanese not canadain

 



The Wii is never going to match the PS2 in either sales or the amount of high quality games according to Metacritic, Game Rankings, or IGN that are going to be in its lineup at the time it is retired. It will not have 50,000,000 units sold come 1st March 2009, And as more high quality games do appear on the PS3 it is going to cut into the sales margin that the Wii has over it.


As for people that want to make claims that I'm the delusional one. You ****** and ************* are welcome to lineup and kiss my *** come Christmas 2010 when what I've said proves to be true.  And you Nintencultists can stick that up your ***** and spin on it.

 

     "Thing looks like a *****."

   -- Furious from Athenewins



My most anticipated games:  Whatever Hideo Kojima is going to do next, Final Fantasy XIII, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, Gran Turismo 5, Alan Wake, Wii Sports Resort.  Cave Story Wiiware.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqqLMgbtrB8

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@viewbookimpact

Yeah, the Wii is an infallible golden **** that has been **** out of the *** of God isn't it?



My most anticipated games:  Whatever Hideo Kojima is going to do next, Final Fantasy XIII, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, Gran Turismo 5, Alan Wake, Wii Sports Resort.  Cave Story Wiiware.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqqLMgbtrB8

deathcape said:
hmm Gears2 will sell..yes..to fans of Gears1...not to new gamers..so..no new 360.. no SIGNIFICANT bump in sales..

so yes..it's slowly dying...

by it dying this holiday season..I mean: it won't significantly bump up..compared to other console's bumps..or previous bumps..and once your console can't sell in the holidays...
well...

 

 That's not necessarily true.  Halo 2 sold quite a bit better than Halo 1.  Gears of War 2 may very well out-sell Gears 1.  At this point, there's really no reason to think that it won't. 

Price cuts usually lead to a one or two month trend in increased sales.  Microsoft's slashing of sales of not only all three Xbox360 models, but also of a lot of downloadable content (reference: GameSpot) will no doubt help them out in the next month.  However, their price cuts are also coming a short month before the holiday season starts moving in on us.  That means that the Xbox360 has every reason to be a very popular machine over the holidays.  I personally believe that, in North America at least, the holidays will be better for MS than Sony.

Honestly, besides all the Wii hate these days, what's with all the Xbox hate?  Is everybody a damn PS3 fanboy all of a sudden?



Rolstoppable it has to be that way. Maybe they're smart enough to fill in the blanks and doing so should be right up their ally as Wii fans love casual games.



My most anticipated games:  Whatever Hideo Kojima is going to do next, Final Fantasy XIII, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, Gran Turismo 5, Alan Wake, Wii Sports Resort.  Cave Story Wiiware.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqqLMgbtrB8

Paul_Warren said:

My opinions aren't based on "nothing" as you say. They are based on watching this industry and its trends very closely since the early eighties. Also, I have degrees in English literature, psychology, and religion plus an inherited natural ability to look deep into the minds and mindsets of people. My father was a both a leading prosecuting and criminal defense attorney in his lifetime. My opinions might seem like trolling or hocus pocus to some people; however, I swear that I am what Anton Lavey would call a great "cold reader" into trends and human behavior.

Oh, indeed; they're not based on "nothing." They're based on an irrational bias driven by the fact that the console doesn't follow the graphics-are-everything trend of the last few generations and forces its developers to deviate from that path (something sorely needed for the last ten years).

By the way, I note that you have degrees in English literature, psychology, and religion. But you do not have degrees in, say, marketing, computer science, game theory, statistics, or anything else relevant to this field (admittedly, psychology comes fairly close). Your father's achievements, while impressive in their own context, are also pretty much irrelevant to this debate. The only relevant credential you've presented is your promise that you're a great "cold reader," and frankly your recent track record speaks strongly against you. Have you been right on anything in this field since the Wii launched?



Complexity is not depth. Machismo is not maturity. Obsession is not dedication. Tedium is not challenge. Support gaming: support the Wii.

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What do I hate about modern gaming? I hate tedium replacing challenge, complexity replacing depth, and domination replacing entertainment. I hate the outsourcing of mechanics to physics textbooks, art direction to photocopiers, and story to cheap Hollywood screenwriters. I hate the confusion of obsession with dedication, style with substance, new with gimmicky, old with obsolete, new with evolutionary, and old with time-tested.
There is much to hate about modern gaming. That is why I support the Wii.

Paul_Warren said:

Rolstoppable it has to be that way. Maybe they're smart enough to fill in the blanks and doing so should be right up their ally as Wii fans love casual games.

 

Funny, I'm a Wii fan an my collection is dominated by hardcore games.  You're understanding of the industry and sales is so off that the word "understanding" becomes a misnomer.