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S.T.A.G.E. on 03 September 2008
psrock said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
psrock said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
psrock said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
psrock said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
psrock said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
psrock said:
they have no choice.

 

 Of course they have a choice. It's the perfect way to kick off the new holiday season.

 

no, it's the only way to keep up.

 

 You have your facts backwards, Sony is trailing Microsoft. You people love to ignore the bigger picture just because small weekly increments give you hope. You need to give it up that the PS3 is not the PS2. Sony took a totally different route this gen and they are paying dearly for it. Microsoft can play that game too. A price drop will produce larger results than that of Sony. Sony has a year or so until they can afford to pander to the same crowd Microsoft has waited to be attracting this year.

Are you referring to the 12 months lead? How will you guys react when the ps3 catch the 360, i can't wait. 

 

 

 I hope you know that this price drop could cause Microsoft to sell 4-6 Mil consoles worldwide all the way to the end of the holiday season. Sony cannot take a hit like that this year.

 

lol, what? how? please tell me.

 

 I'm counting the whole year. 24-26 Mil consoles. PS3 18.6-20 M consoles.

This will be the last year the 360 will have a lead on the PS3. I rarely  make predictions. 

 

Question? I'll try not to insult you. Do you know what a fanboy is?

 

 

 "I hope you know that this price drop could cause Microsoft to sell 4-6 Mil consoles worldwide all the way to the end of the holiday season. Sony cannot take a hit like that this year."

This.

You're hilarious. Thats a fair estimate. You're just nutthugging Sony so badly that you don't understand that. You're failing to realize that. I am neither on Microsofts side nor on Sony's side. I will be a proud owner of both systems, but you fail to realize that Microsoft is at the stage where they can profit off of the lower/middle class within the market. Sony has a year until they can reach the $299, $200 where the sales count. By then Microsoft could be 6-7 million consoles ahead. That would be an 1.7-2.3 million stretch. 

 



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Cueil on 03 September 2008
psrock said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
psrock said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
psrock said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
psrock said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
psrock said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
psrock said:
they have no choice.

 

 Of course they have a choice. It's the perfect way to kick off the new holiday season.

 

no, it's the only way to keep up.

 

 You have your facts backwards, Sony is trailing Microsoft. You people love to ignore the bigger picture just because small weekly increments give you hope. You need to give it up that the PS3 is not the PS2. Sony took a totally different route this gen and they are paying dearly for it. Microsoft can play that game too. A price drop will produce larger results than that of Sony. Sony has a year or so until they can afford to pander to the same crowd Microsoft has waited to be attracting this year.

Are you referring to the 12 months lead? How will you guys react when the ps3 catch the 360, i can't wait. 

 

 

 I hope you know that this price drop could cause Microsoft to sell 4-6 Mil consoles worldwide all the way to the end of the holiday season. Sony cannot take a hit like that this year.

 

lol, what? how? please tell me.

 

 I'm counting the whole year. 24-26 Mil consoles. PS3 18.6-20 M consoles.

This will be the last year the 360 will have a lead on the PS3. I rarely  make predictions. 

 

Question? I'll try not to insult you. Do you know what a fanboy is?

 

 

 "I hope you know that this price drop could cause Microsoft to sell 4-6 Mil consoles worldwide all the way to the end of the holiday season. Sony cannot take a hit like that this year."

This.

 

No... that actually has some bases to it... the 360 sold nearly 5 million last year in the same period and it's price drop came a month later... of course there was Halo 3 that accually allowed them to post a bigger month than Nintendo.



 
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ManusJustus on 03 September 2008

First rule of economics: Only consider cost and benefit in the future, not the past.  It doesnt matter if XBox made a billion dollars or lost a billion dollars in the past, the only thing Microsoft should (and since they are ran by people who understand economics, do) consider is potential costs and benefits in the future.



Shadowblind on 03 September 2008
Cueil said:
psrock said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
psrock said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
psrock said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
psrock said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
psrock said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
psrock said:
they have no choice.

 

 Of course they have a choice. It's the perfect way to kick off the new holiday season.

 

no, it's the only way to keep up.

 

 You have your facts backwards, Sony is trailing Microsoft. You people love to ignore the bigger picture just because small weekly increments give you hope. You need to give it up that the PS3 is not the PS2. Sony took a totally different route this gen and they are paying dearly for it. Microsoft can play that game too. A price drop will produce larger results than that of Sony. Sony has a year or so until they can afford to pander to the same crowd Microsoft has waited to be attracting this year.

Are you referring to the 12 months lead? How will you guys react when the ps3 catch the 360, i can't wait.

 

 

 I hope you know that this price drop could cause Microsoft to sell 4-6 Mil consoles worldwide all the way to the end of the holiday season. Sony cannot take a hit like that this year.

 

lol, what? how? please tell me.

 

 I'm counting the whole year. 24-26 Mil consoles. PS3 18.6-20 M consoles.

This will be the last year the 360 will have a lead on the PS3. I rarely  make predictions.

 

Question? I'll try not to insult you. Do you know what a fanboy is?

 

 

 "I hope you know that this price drop could cause Microsoft to sell 4-6 Mil consoles worldwide all the way to the end of the holiday season. Sony cannot take a hit like that this year."

This.

 

No... that actually has some bases to it... the 360 sold nearly 5 million last year in the same period and it's price drop came a month later... of course there was Halo 3 that accually allowed them to post a bigger month than Nintendo.

 

 *cough* gears of War 2 *cough*. ;) 

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heruamon on 03 September 2008
obieslut said:

Last quater the games division was in the red, now microsoft are talking about price cuts and everything else. but what i am thinking is can they afford it. to me it just seems like they are in the games business just to try and hurt sony but they will have to make a profit at some point because if no then why are they in this business. they are billions of dollas in the red with the xbox brand and with the way they are going they are only going to get even deepr into the red.

I think if they kep up lik this then they are not going to last in the games market too long

 

 

 

 

Microsoft Games Division wasn't in the RED last qtr, Microsoft's Entertainment Devices Division was, since they DO NOT HAVE a games division.  It might be semantics to you, but that's clearly due to your lack of understanding about the proper methodology in reviewing an earnings statement.  Also, in delving into the earnings report, the CAUSE of the loss wasn’t due to lack of product performance at the retail level, but instead due to massive capital investments and long term development investments by M$ to provide future growth in the division.  So coupled with the cost reductions to console production lines, and the already expensed cost of support Xbox 360 repairs, this cut looks smart, given the current levels of growth the 306 has seen in 2008.  Also, given that nearly EVERYBODY expected a cut in the early part of the year, vice now, it’s stupid to see how it’s a BAD decision.



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Cueil on 03 September 2008
ManusJustus said:

First rule of economics: Only consider cost and benefit in the future, not the past.  It doesnt matter if XBox made a billion dollars or lost a billion dollars in the past, the only thing Microsoft should (and since they are ran by people who understand economics, do) consider is potential costs and benefits in the future.

 

while true you can get a picture about how a price drop or a large game could effect sales... we look at the past to get an idea of the future because the trends don't generally buck unless something huge happens



 
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cleveland124 on 03 September 2008

d

Gobias said:
Remember how Microsoft is over 6 billion dollars in the red in their gaming division?

Good times.

Didn't you know the xbox division is a not for profit company funded by Windows?  That's what most xbox fans would have you believe. 

The key is that Sony sold more PS3's than Microsoft in the last quarter.  And.... Sony made a profit with their games division in the last quarter while the Microsoft games division turned a loss in the last quarter.  But Sony actually wants to make money so they won't respond to this price cut.  That's what the xbox fanboy thinks.

 



heruamon on 03 September 2008
Dolla Dolla said:
RolStoppable said:

Why do you say "they lost a few hundred mil IIRC"? The results have been posted in this very thread and you just said before that you are basing your assumptions off of the facts given. Don't you check the facts?

Fact checking is beyond some. Trying to reason with DMJ is pointless mostly. He's the guy you hear on the forums chanting "Sony! Sony! Sony!" and then you'll see him in line at a game store buying Wii and 360 games


ROFLOL...how so true!

"...You can't kill ideas with a sword, and you can't sink belief structures with a broadside. You defeat them by making them change..."

- From By Schism Rent Asunder

psrock on 03 September 2008
S.T.A.G.E. said:
psrock said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
psrock said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
psrock said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
psrock said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
psrock said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
psrock said:
they have no choice.

 

 Of course they have a choice. It's the perfect way to kick off the new holiday season.

 

no, it's the only way to keep up.

 

 Y

 

Question? I'll try not to insult you. Do you know what a fanboy is?

 

 

 "I hope you know that this price drop could cause Microsoft to sell 4-6 Mil consoles worldwide all the way to the end of the holiday season. Sony cannot take a hit like that this year."

This.

You're hilarious. Thats a fair estimate. You're just nutthugging Sony so badly that you don't understand that. You're failing to realize that. I am neither on Microsofts side nor on Sony's side. I will be a proud owner of both systems, but you fail to realize that Microsoft is at the stage where they can profit off of the lower/middle class within the market. Sony has a year until they can reach the $299, $200 where the sales count. By then Microsoft could be 6-7 million consoles ahead. That would be an 1.7-2.3 million stretch. 

 

I am funny as hell. btw, I am actually happy MS is lowering their prices, I wish Sony would too. I just like playing with fanboys emotions.

 



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S.T.A.G.E. on 03 September 2008
cleveland124 said:
d
Gobias said:
Remember how Microsoft is over 6 billion dollars in the red in their gaming division?

Good times.

Didn't you know the xbox division is a not for profit company funded by Windows?  That's what most xbox fans would have you believe. 

The key is that Sony sold more PS3's than Microsoft in the last quarter.  And.... Sony made a profit with their games division in the last quarter while the Microsoft games division turned a loss in the last quarter.  But Sony actually wants to make money so they won't respond to this price cut.  That's what the xbox fanboy thinks.

 

 

 Yes, Sony cut its price and hit took a 180. Wait for Microsoft's price cut.