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greenmedic88 on 29 August 2008
wfz said:
greenmedic88 said:
makingmusic476 said:

Development starts with the most capable hardware and is ported down to the least powerful. The Wii will never change that.

Either way, I agree with BFJ in saying 50% is not going to happen in 2008 just based upon the production numbers alone, even assuming 100% sell through for the Wii.

 

 

So all PS2 third party games were ports from the GameCube, which were ports from the xbox? Huh I didn't know that.

 

I think the wii will hit 50% by Christmas.

 

Also, I don't think I've heard any Wii fan say that 50% is the magical number that third parties will start developing only for the Wii. It's just a big slap in the face to the ps3 and xbox360, and quite a feat for the system that was supposed to ruin Nintendo. =)

Virtually all multi-platform games are originally coded and compiled on PCs. Platform specific coding is written afterwords.

You didn't know that either.

 



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Onimusha12 on 29 August 2008
ssj12 said:
4 million+ and the Wii will be at 50% of the console market, of course that doesnt mean it has won the game market. Once it outsells PCs then we can talk.

 

Shhhhhhhhh...................

 

Gobias said:
Soon Naznatips will enforce an insta-ban on anyone who posts these damned percentage threads.

At least I hope he will.
DMeisterJ said:
I can't wait until Naz bans the creators of these threads.

Yeah! I wish people would stop making threads about the Wii's success in the market too! What do you think this is OP? A Sales Website?



wfz on 29 August 2008
greenmedic88 said:
wfz said:
greenmedic88 said:
makingmusic476 said:

Development starts with the most capable hardware and is ported down to the least powerful. The Wii will never change that.

Either way, I agree with BFJ in saying 50% is not going to happen in 2008 just based upon the production numbers alone, even assuming 100% sell through for the Wii.

 

 

So all PS2 third party games were ports from the GameCube, which were ports from the xbox? Huh I didn't know that.

 

I think the wii will hit 50% by Christmas.

 

Also, I don't think I've heard any Wii fan say that 50% is the magical number that third parties will start developing only for the Wii. It's just a big slap in the face to the ps3 and xbox360, and quite a feat for the system that was supposed to ruin Nintendo. =)

Virtually all multi-platform games are originally coded and compiled on PCs. Platform specific coding is written afterwords.

You didn't know that either.

 

So now all third party games are multiplatform? The kind of third party support Wii users want is original and not multiplatform port games. Sounds like you've been arguing about the wrong subject.



TheBigFatJ on 29 August 2008
axumblade said:
I think it should be at 50% by the end of the year....no need for suicide. I think most of the battles are going to be done through software this year. Probably a couple of weeks this year the PS3 and the 360 will sell more consoles (due to people biting the bullet for systems because (Fable 2, Gears 2, Resistance 2, Little Big Planet). But otherwise, it's a pretty open and shut case.

 

Ah, you're right.  No denying that logic.  It's open and shut.

All the Wii has to do is outsell the PS360 by an average of 1 million units per month during September, October, November and December and it will reach 50%.

As far as I know, the Wii hasn't accomplished that feat even a single time ever yet.  And yet most of the people in this thread are predicting that the Wii will average that.  Let's look at November+december+1 week January holiday season last year and see how the Wii did vs the PS360 during those two months:

Wii: 6.345 million sales

PS360: 3.727 + 3.389 = 7.116 million sales.

So during the two holiday months last year, the PS360 outsold the Wii by 771,000 units.  And yet you have people in here predicting that the Wii will somehow outperform them this year during the holiday season to the tune of 3 million or better.

To do that this year, unquestionably, the Wii would have to have far better than a 10 million unit holiday season (November - first week of Jan).  That also assumes the PS360 would have a miserable 7 million unit holiday season combined -- selling an average of 3.5 million in the two biggest months of the year, world wide, between them.  That would be slightly worse performance than last year.  And by all accounts, both systems should crush last year's holiday sales now: they're both cheaper, they both have a better line up.  And both of their sales are drastically up year-over-year.



BringBackChrono on 29 August 2008
Johann said:
The Wii will see 50% by the end of 08. There's no stopping it.
It's a MONSTER, I tell you!
I wish Ninty wins next gen too. Maybe that'll get game companies to stop
making sequels of sequels and spin-offs and just go in the way of innovation, like Nintendo did.
That way, gaming like I know it will be something of the past, and I will be able
to brag about having lived through the age of core games, when I'm old (hey, I can dream...).

I suppose im the first one to catch the Johann-Monster connection. Or is it just my wicked imagination?

 



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greenmedic88 on 29 August 2008

The big 3rd party titles are typically multi-platform, barring the rare exception, yes. This is not opinion, it's common knowledge.

You said "all third party games are multiplatform" which was not the statement, which would be false. "Virtually all multi-platform games are originally coded and compiled on PCs" was the statement. Which is true.

What are the biggest 3rd party titles on the Wii currently? Exclusives (*)?

*Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games
Guitar Hero III
*Carnival Games
*Sonic and the Secret Rings
Resident Evil 4
*Rayman Raving Rabbids 2
*Game Party
*My Sims
*Red Steel
*High School Musical: Sing it!
*Smarty Pants
*Cooking Mama: Cook Off
Madden NFL 08
The Simpsons Game
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07

Quite the list of commercially successful 3rd party exclusives.

That's the kind of 3rd party support Wii users are buying.

The Wii has yet to see a single 3rd party exclusive on par with any of the best or even above average hits found on the 360 or the PS3.



Skeeuk on 29 August 2008

if the wii gets to 50% im wondering what effect will it have on the gamer?



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greenmedic88 on 29 August 2008
TheBigFatJ said:
axumblade said:
I think it should be at 50% by the end of the year....no need for suicide. I think most of the battles are going to be done through software this year. Probably a couple of weeks this year the PS3 and the 360 will sell more consoles (due to people biting the bullet for systems because (Fable 2, Gears 2, Resistance 2, Little Big Planet). But otherwise, it's a pretty open and shut case.

 

Ah, you're right.  No denying that logic.  It's open and shut.

All the Wii has to do is outsell the PS360 by an average of 1 million units per month during September, October, November and December and it will reach 50%.

As far as I know, the Wii hasn't accomplished that feat even a single time ever yet.  And yet most of the people in this thread are predicting that the Wii will average that.  Let's look at November+december+1 week January holiday season last year and see how the Wii did vs the PS360 during those two months:

Wii: 6.345 million sales

PS360: 3.727 + 3.389 = 7.116 million sales.

So during the two holiday months last year, the PS360 outsold the Wii by 771,000 units.  And yet you have people in here predicting that the Wii will somehow outperform them this year during the holiday season to the tune of 3 million or better.

To do that this year, unquestionably, the Wii would have to have far better than a 10 million unit holiday season (November - first week of Jan).  That also assumes the PS360 would have a miserable 7 million unit holiday season combined -- selling an average of 3.5 million in the two biggest months of the year, world wide, between them.  That would be slightly worse performance than last year.  And by all accounts, both systems should crush last year's holiday sales now: they're both cheaper, they both have a better line up.  And both of their sales are drastically up year-over-year.

You do realize that most of the people who believe in the 50% Wii Theory either aren't carefully reading your posts, or are conveniently ignoring your reasoning, which is pretty sound.

The theory basically relies upon both the PS3 and the 360 completely tanking (selling worse than last year) this holiday season when all indications are contrary to this.

Otherwise, the theory is relying upon sales of consoles that won't even be produced before the end of 2008 due to current production output.

 



greenmedic88 on 29 August 2008
Skeeuk said:

if the wii gets to 50% im wondering what effect will it have on the gamer?

A smug sense of satisfaction for Nintendo fans, but few or no forthcoming big 3rd party releases.

I don't see why this should bother any Nintendo fan since they all presumably like Nintendo published titles the most.

First party Nintendo games matter most for the Wii. They're still the best reason to buy a Nintendo console if you're a gamer, even if you don't think video games start and end with Nintendo.



Onimusha12 on 29 August 2008
greenmedic88 said:
Skeeuk said:

if the wii gets to 50% im wondering what effect will it have on the gamer?

A smug sense of satisfaction for Nintendo fans, but few or no forthcoming big 3rd party releases.

I don't see why this should bother any Nintendo fan since they all presumably like Nintendo published titles the most.

First party Nintendo games matter most for the Wii. They're still the best reason to buy a Nintendo console if you're a gamer, even if you don't think video games start and end with Nintendo.

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