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Gballzack said:
akuma587 said:
Just to remind everyone...there have been NO plans WHATSOEVER to change RE5 to accommodate for the Wii. I honestly don't think with the direction that the series is going that they would not push the envelope with every thing the more powerful systems could do. Otherwise it would be a huge letdown to the fans. I mean, following up RE4 is a big responsibility, one Capcom and the devs might not be willing to sacrifice the quality of their game for.

Since the only announcement of what platforms it would be on included a willingness to put it on all three, I have a hard time imaging how it would need be changed especially since we have no idea what the graphics of the game are going to be. Perhaps you can provide me some screen shots of in-game graphics to show this something the Wii couldn't handle. Again, you make the assumption that this is being done as a PS3 or 360 game primaraly, we have no confirmed information since a vague statement over a year ago about the game's standing on a console so please stop acting like its set in stone that we know for sure what the game is comming out on. Thanks.

Sorry Gballzack, but I beleive akuma587 has a point. If, for one it has a prerendered video then it's probobly for the 360/PS3. But also, it was announced at E3 2005, when there was almost no info on the Wii(it was still the revolution) and developers were not willing to jump on the band wagon. Also, this kind of game is one that needs big flashy fgraphics that the Wii can't do. It is(will be) a built for HD game.

Also, I won't be buying a PS3 ever(big suprise huh?). I don't think 499 is the magic number to most consumers. It will help more hardcore gamers make the leap, but like most people said they won't want it without more games. It's evident as the 360 is slowing down quite a bit even with it's 399 price tag.



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Smashchu said:
 

Also, this kind of game is one that needs big flashy fgraphics that the Wii can't do. It is(will be) a built for HD game.


You don't need big flashy graphics to create a game with atmosphere. These things can be very easily done with lighting, pacing, sound, good design, and many other things which all have nothing to do with how pretty the game looks and could all be done on the PS2 with ease and even the PS1 to a certain extent.

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Smashchu said:
Gballzack said:
akuma587 said:
Just to remind everyone...there have been NO plans WHATSOEVER to change RE5 to accommodate for the Wii. I honestly don't think with the direction that the series is going that they would not push the envelope with every thing the more powerful systems could do. Otherwise it would be a huge letdown to the fans. I mean, following up RE4 is a big responsibility, one Capcom and the devs might not be willing to sacrifice the quality of their game for.

Since the only announcement of what platforms it would be on included a willingness to put it on all three, I have a hard time imaging how it would need be changed especially since we have no idea what the graphics of the game are going to be. Perhaps you can provide me some screen shots of in-game graphics to show this something the Wii couldn't handle. Again, you make the assumption that this is being done as a PS3 or 360 game primaraly, we have no confirmed information since a vague statement over a year ago about the game's standing on a console so please stop acting like its set in stone that we know for sure what the game is comming out on. Thanks.

Sorry Gballzack, but I beleive akuma587 has a point. If, for one it has a prerendered video then it's probobly for the 360/PS3. But also, it was announced at E3 2005, when there was almost no info on the Wii(it was still the revolution) and developers were not willing to jump on the band wagon. Also, this kind of game is one that needs big flashy fgraphics that the Wii can't do. It is(will be) a built for HD game.

Also, I won't be buying a PS3 ever(big suprise huh?). I don't think 499 is the magic number to most consumers. It will help more hardcore gamers make the leap, but like most people said they won't want it without more games. It's evident as the 360 is slowing down quite a bit even with it's 399 price tag.


Umbrella Chronicles has pre-rendered video so i fail to see your logic of how a game having pre-rendered video alienates it from the Wii.

Resident Evil doesn't need big flashy graphics because that's not what is selling now and that has never been what has sold Resident Evil games, and even then the Wii is more than capable of doing big flashy graphics. I fail to see how dated information from a two year old E3 remains pertinant when the console race has shaped up much differently than anticipated while Capcom had all along stated a willingness to make a wii version. If things are so sure fire for a PS3/360 debut of this game, why has no info been released since 2005 on it? Why is the game in developer hell. If Capcom's game's need flashy graphics why did they announce putting forth almost all their effort into the DS and Wii. If RE5 will be a PS3 slam dunk, why has nothing been said to hype it as such for a console desperate for killer games?

You'd kill the RE franchise in Japan if you put RE5 only on the PS3/360 which would almost certainly ensure a port to the Wii if they had any hope of recouping the franchise there. Does this garantee RE5 on the Wii? No, there is no garantee, but there is really no evidence to suggest it won't be either. There's also no reason to think their original plans for the game's release set long before the PS3's flop and the Wii's triumphant success will stay the same especially in lieu of this suspicious information blackout on the game.



i'll buy a ps3 at this new pricepoint... wait a minute i already have one... i'll buy a 360 then Wait.. i already have one of those too.. dam...i've been dooped..



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Still not going to buy. Still too expensive.



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Well, here in Ecuador, a south-american country, the PS3 costs as much as (be prepared) $1000. And I doubt that price will drop anytime soon. However, with my 15th birthday in October, which is an important birthday for any teenager in my country, I'm likely to obtain enough money to buy a PS3, but I'd have doubts about buying it at the $600 pricepoint (THERE'S NO ****ING WAY I'M GONNA PAY $1000, ECUADOR RETAILERS CAN BITE MY A** AND HARD! HARD!!!). However, now that it's pretty much confirmed that it's going to cost $500 (the 60GB version, at least) I'm as good as sold on one.

On the other hand, in order to get a PS3, I'm (or my parents) is (are?) going to have to go to North America. I won't buy it at $1000...NEVER, ****ING NEVER DAMN IT! So I guess it's still going to be a long ways for me to get my PS3. (Then again, I can always ask my grandfather nicely to bring me the PS3 and I pay him here.)



Gballzack said:
Smashchu said:
Gballzack said:
akuma587 said:
Just to remind everyone...there have been NO plans WHATSOEVER to change RE5 to accommodate for the Wii. I honestly don't think with the direction that the series is going that they would not push the envelope with every thing the more powerful systems could do. Otherwise it would be a huge letdown to the fans. I mean, following up RE4 is a big responsibility, one Capcom and the devs might not be willing to sacrifice the quality of their game for.

Since the only announcement of what platforms it would be on included a willingness to put it on all three, I have a hard time imaging how it would need be changed especially since we have no idea what the graphics of the game are going to be. Perhaps you can provide me some screen shots of in-game graphics to show this something the Wii couldn't handle. Again, you make the assumption that this is being done as a PS3 or 360 game primaraly, we have no confirmed information since a vague statement over a year ago about the game's standing on a console so please stop acting like its set in stone that we know for sure what the game is comming out on. Thanks.

Sorry Gballzack, but I beleive akuma587 has a point. If, for one it has a prerendered video then it's probobly for the 360/PS3. But also, it was announced at E3 2005, when there was almost no info on the Wii(it was still the revolution) and developers were not willing to jump on the band wagon. Also, this kind of game is one that needs big flashy fgraphics that the Wii can't do. It is(will be) a built for HD game.

Also, I won't be buying a PS3 ever(big suprise huh?). I don't think 499 is the magic number to most consumers. It will help more hardcore gamers make the leap, but like most people said they won't want it without more games. It's evident as the 360 is slowing down quite a bit even with it's 399 price tag.


Umbrella Chronicles has pre-rendered video so i fail to see your logic of how a game having pre-rendered video alienates it from the Wii.

Resident Evil doesn't need big flashy graphics because that's not what is selling now and that has never been what has sold Resident Evil games, and even then the Wii is more than capable of doing big flashy graphics. I fail to see how dated information from a two year old E3 remains pertinant when the console race has shaped up much differently than anticipated while Capcom had all along stated a willingness to make a wii version. If things are so sure fire for a PS3/360 debut of this game, why has no info been released since 2005 on it? Why is the game in developer hell. If Capcom's game's need flashy graphics why did they announce putting forth almost all their effort into the DS and Wii. If RE5 will be a PS3 slam dunk, why has nothing been said to hype it as such for a console desperate for killer games?

You'd kill the RE franchise in Japan if you put RE5 only on the PS3/360 which would almost certainly ensure a port to the Wii if they had any hope of recouping the franchise there. Does this garantee RE5 on the Wii? No, there is no garantee, but there is really no evidence to suggest it won't be either. There's also no reason to think their original plans for the game's release set long before the PS3's flop and the Wii's triumphant success will stay the same especially in lieu of this suspicious information blackout on the game.


Well, the fact that RE5's video sports superior graphics. But, thats not the point, moving on.

Reseident Evil is always a game that takes full advantage of the graphical capabilities of a console. It has always been praised for it's graphics. And has always done well. I beleive the developers would want to take full ability of it. Plus, when it was shown was importina. At E3 2005 you know how many publishers had games coming for the Wii. 1. Nintendo. If anything was shown at E3 as prerenvdered it was for the 360, PS3 or PS2.

Also, I don't think Capcom cares about RE's chances in japan. The only ones that sold over 1 million were the first two. It's been a flop their ever since. The other thing is, Unbrella Cronicals. Think it's a bit odd were getting a spin off.



sorry if this is not mentioned earlier. But I thought you can create a poll now? So why is this thread not a poll?



Smashchu said:
Gballzack said:
Smashchu said:
Gballzack said:
akuma587 said:
Just to remind everyone...there have been NO plans WHATSOEVER to change RE5 to accommodate for the Wii. I honestly don't think with the direction that the series is going that they would not push the envelope with every thing the more powerful systems could do. Otherwise it would be a huge letdown to the fans. I mean, following up RE4 is a big responsibility, one Capcom and the devs might not be willing to sacrifice the quality of their game for.

Since the only announcement of what platforms it would be on included a willingness to put it on all three, I have a hard time imaging how it would need be changed especially since we have no idea what the graphics of the game are going to be. Perhaps you can provide me some screen shots of in-game graphics to show this something the Wii couldn't handle. Again, you make the assumption that this is being done as a PS3 or 360 game primaraly, we have no confirmed information since a vague statement over a year ago about the game's standing on a console so please stop acting like its set in stone that we know for sure what the game is comming out on. Thanks.

Sorry Gballzack, but I beleive akuma587 has a point. If, for one it has a prerendered video then it's probobly for the 360/PS3. But also, it was announced at E3 2005, when there was almost no info on the Wii(it was still the revolution) and developers were not willing to jump on the band wagon. Also, this kind of game is one that needs big flashy fgraphics that the Wii can't do. It is(will be) a built for HD game.

Also, I won't be buying a PS3 ever(big suprise huh?). I don't think 499 is the magic number to most consumers. It will help more hardcore gamers make the leap, but like most people said they won't want it without more games. It's evident as the 360 is slowing down quite a bit even with it's 399 price tag.


Umbrella Chronicles has pre-rendered video so i fail to see your logic of how a game having pre-rendered video alienates it from the Wii.

Resident Evil doesn't need big flashy graphics because that's not what is selling now and that has never been what has sold Resident Evil games, and even then the Wii is more than capable of doing big flashy graphics. I fail to see how dated information from a two year old E3 remains pertinant when the console race has shaped up much differently than anticipated while Capcom had all along stated a willingness to make a wii version. If things are so sure fire for a PS3/360 debut of this game, why has no info been released since 2005 on it? Why is the game in developer hell. If Capcom's game's need flashy graphics why did they announce putting forth almost all their effort into the DS and Wii. If RE5 will be a PS3 slam dunk, why has nothing been said to hype it as such for a console desperate for killer games?

You'd kill the RE franchise in Japan if you put RE5 only on the PS3/360 which would almost certainly ensure a port to the Wii if they had any hope of recouping the franchise there. Does this garantee RE5 on the Wii? No, there is no garantee, but there is really no evidence to suggest it won't be either. There's also no reason to think their original plans for the game's release set long before the PS3's flop and the Wii's triumphant success will stay the same especially in lieu of this suspicious information blackout on the game.


Well, the fact that RE5's video sports superior graphics. But, thats not the point, moving on.

Reseident Evil is always a game that takes full advantage of the graphical capabilities of a console. It has always been praised for it's graphics. And has always done well. I beleive the developers would want to take full ability of it. Plus, when it was shown was importina. At E3 2005 you know how many publishers had games coming for the Wii. 1. Nintendo. If anything was shown at E3 as prerenvdered it was for the 360, PS3 or PS2.

Also, I don't think Capcom cares about RE's chances in japan. The only ones that sold over 1 million were the first two. It's been a flop their ever since. The other thing is, Unbrella Cronicals. Think it's a bit odd were getting a spin off.


NameConsolePublisherJapanAmericaOthersTotal
Resident Evil 2Capcom2.281.931.615.82
Resident EvilCapcom1.682.101.275.05
Resident Evil 3Capcom1.551.130.843.52
Resident Evil: Code Veronica XCapcom0.341.040.692.07
Resident Evil 4Capcom0.490.670.751.91
Resident Evil 4Capcom0.220.940.451.61

 

It sells fine in Japan, although RE4 sold less. Anyway, it doesn't matter since in Japan enough people will have PS3s to sell the game well. It sold well on the Gamecube overall despite not many people owning it, then sold 500,000 in Japan for a re-released game. Ended up selling more then RE3 overall, and now the Wii version is selling.

Anyway, no evidence of RE5 on the Wii. Just like MG4 and FF13 that Wii fans keep hoping for.

I suppose the Wii will also get Unreal Tournament 3, Haze, Soul Caliber 5, etc.

 

Anyway, about the topic:  I got 2 PS3s at launch with a friend that doesn't play videogames.  We made some money selling one then the prices went down so I decided to keep mine.  If I didn't keep that one I would have waited awhile most likely.  I have really enjoyed the games released thus far and haven't come close to finishing Oblivion and others, but I've usually waited for awhile to buy a console and I have a lot of PS2 games to finish (including RE4, God of War 2, and Odin Sphere).

However, with a $100 price drop and 5 free blu-ray movies, I would have made the move this month or next to buy one.   Sure, you have to pick the movies from 5 lists, but there are some quality titles in each.  Also, Lair comes next month and Heavenly Sword soon I believe.  I also look forward to The Darkness any day now.  This fall and winter are even better for the PS3.



Smashchu said:

Well, the fact that RE5's video sports superior graphics. But, thats not the point, moving on.

Reseident Evil is always a game that takes full advantage of the graphical capabilities of a console. It has always been praised for it's graphics. And has always done well. I beleive the developers would want to take full ability of it. Plus, when it was shown was importina. At E3 2005 you know how many publishers had games coming for the Wii. 1. Nintendo. If anything was shown at E3 as prerenvdered it was for the 360, PS3 or PS2.

Also, I don't think Capcom cares about RE's chances in japan. The only ones that sold over 1 million were the first two. It's been a flop their ever since. The other thing is, Unbrella Cronicals. Think it's a bit odd were getting a spin off.

So you're saying the Wii can't handle PS2 graphics or pre-rendering? And again must I remind you that Capcom said they would gladly make it for the Wii as well if they could get its dev stats at the time so claiming intent is a moot point. You also forget that this was long before the debut of the PS3 and Wii which greatly turned the gaming world's anticipation for the upcomming consoles on their head. And if you're going to call into question why the Wii got Umbrella Chronicles, why not bring into question the fact that the Wii is in developer hell right now and basically on hiatus, no coincidence I'm sure given the Wii's unexpected success.

windbane said:
NameConsolePublisherJapanAmericaOthersTotal
Resident Evil 2Capcom2.281.931.615.82
Resident EvilCapcom1.682.101.275.05
Resident Evil 3Capcom1.551.130.843.52
Resident Evil: Code Veronica XCapcom0.341.040.692.07
Resident Evil 4Capcom0.490.670.751.91
Resident Evil 4Capcom0.220.940.451.61

 

1. It sells fine in Japan, although RE4 sold less. Anyway, it doesn't matter since in Japan enough people will have PS3s to sell the game well. It sold well on the Gamecube overall despite not many people owning it, then sold 500,000 in Japan for a re-released game. Ended up selling more then RE3 overall, and now the Wii version is selling.

2. Anyway, no evidence of RE5 on the Wii. Just like MG4 and FF13 that Wii fans keep hoping for.

3. I suppose the Wii will also get Unreal Tournament 3, Haze, Soul Caliber 5, etc.

1. Notice how all those sales were for consoled that did well (PS1/PS2) of course with exception to the Gamecube and when the poor selling Gamecube couldn't move RE4, they put it on a console that did the PS2. You'd be a fool to think the PS3 will move enough copies World Wide much ales in Japan alone. And a fool to think that you call up old history without showing Capcom as being willing to put a graphically downgraded version of a game on a more popular system.

2. No evidence it won't be on the Wii either. And that's the whole point. That we can't say yet and there is ample room for speculation.

3. Are Unreal Tournament 3, Haze, Soul Calibur 5, FF13 and MGS4 in developer Hell right now? Are those games on hiatus? Did the developers ever state that they would like to make a Wii version of those games? Do you have any proof that RE5 will be a game of that graphical standard? No.