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omgwtfbbq said:
leo-j said:
deadhorse said:

leo-j said:

Well, the ps3 is getting alot more exclusives this year than the 360 for sure and everyone in this forum knows so, uncharted:drake's fortune, Heavenly sword, Lair,NBA 08, Killzone 2, Metal gear solid 4, Warhawk,Folklore, nija gaiden sigma, singstarps3,etc.. I can list more but they dont pop up in my mind. The ps3 would sell better than 360 even if the 360 is priced at 300, an the ps3 priced at $399.99 or $449.99, the reason for this is because microsoft already released a 300 dollar 360 which is quite frankly selling worst that the 20gb 360. But the ps3 riced at or below the 360 elite would sell more consoles than the 360. The ps3 is new, the 360 is old, casual gamers like new things.

Well, the ps3 is getting alot more exclusives this year than the 360 for sure and everyone in this forum knows so

Everybody knows the PS3 is getting more exclusives? The PS3 released 12 games last month, the 360 released 24. You better back that claim up with a link.

As for some of the games you listed:

Heavenly Sword - The only other game the makers of the game have done is Kung Fu Chaos, which sucked.

Killzone 2 - Killzone 1 got a 6.9 from Gamespot

Metal Gear Solid 4 - It's coming out this fiscal year, which means before April. If it was coming out in 2007 they would have said so.

Ninja Gaiden Sigma - We'll see how many PS3s it sold next week.

The ps3 would sell better than 360 even if the 360 is priced at 300, an the ps3 priced at $399.99 or $449.99, the reason for this is because microsoft already released a 300 dollar 360 which is quite frankly selling worst that the 20gb

If the PS3 was $400 instead of $600 it would be in first place again this generation. Too bad that didn't happen. Also, the $300 360 isn't selling because it's crippled, it's not even remotely worth the money.

You want a link Ill give you a link PS3 GAMES COMING OUT FROM NOW TO MAY 2008 are in this link

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25325706

coming from a sony hater sight this is all the exclusive ps3 games expected to be relaesed from now to MAY 2008.

 

sorry to break it to you, but the PS3 actually has the LEAST exclusive titles of all three consoles:

http://www.gamingtarget.com/article.php?artid=7064

giving a list of a single console is not proof either way. 

 


The ps3 has a longer list I just cant find the entire list right now but when I get it I will be sure to post it.



 

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Answering the thread title and ignoring the possibility that somebody else said the same thing already...

Is the PS3 really selling that badly? I'm gonna go with that the $100 price cut says, "Yes."



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deadhorse said:
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Yeah it may be Circuit City only. I also agree that $100 isn't enough if this is a regular price cut. None of the people I know (myself included) who are interested in PS3s are going to buy them till $400 at the earliest... I mean that's obviously just anecdotal but $100 just isn't enough of a cut.

 

I don't think it's Circuit City only, look at this: http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=16721. Sony hasn't denied the rumors, they've just said "no comment." Guess that's another $100 lost on every system sold for Sony. That's, what, a $300 loss per system now?

I'm definitely going to look forward to the upcoming VGChartz sales data. The PS3 sales will probably go up for a little while and be back to normal after month. They also just announced today on CNN Money that Microsoft is going to lose a billion dollars thanks to the defective systems. That could ruin any price drop from them. I swear, Microsoft and Sony are worse than Sega was.


 Actually Sony reduced the price of its blu-ray component about $100, so the losses per system probably aren't any greater than the Launch data.  I've been seeing alot of "Maybe I should get a PS3 after all" comments browsing around various news forums after this announcement.  

 

I'm going to assume PS3 sales are going up from here, especially with new bomb of software titles and online functionality that Sony has planned.

 

M$ sales will probably rise too with their increase in cosumer confidence, and if they drop the price too.

 

If M$ does a price drop too, then I'm going to guess that their losses will be greater this fiscal than Sony with the fact that they are going to have to repair all the consoles and give mass refunds.



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PS3 sales will go up from here for the rest of the year. Price cut, big exclusives and holidays ahead.



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leo-j said:
omgwtfbbq said:
leo-j said:
deadhorse said:

leo-j said:

Well, the ps3 is getting alot more exclusives this year than the 360 for sure and everyone in this forum knows so, uncharted:drake's fortune, Heavenly sword, Lair,NBA 08, Killzone 2, Metal gear solid 4, Warhawk,Folklore, nija gaiden sigma, singstarps3,etc.. I can list more but they dont pop up in my mind. The ps3 would sell better than 360 even if the 360 is priced at 300, an the ps3 priced at $399.99 or $449.99, the reason for this is because microsoft already released a 300 dollar 360 which is quite frankly selling worst that the 20gb 360. But the ps3 riced at or below the 360 elite would sell more consoles than the 360. The ps3 is new, the 360 is old, casual gamers like new things.

Well, the ps3 is getting alot more exclusives this year than the 360 for sure and everyone in this forum knows so

Everybody knows the PS3 is getting more exclusives? The PS3 released 12 games last month, the 360 released 24. You better back that claim up with a link.

As for some of the games you listed:

Heavenly Sword - The only other game the makers of the game have done is Kung Fu Chaos, which sucked.

Killzone 2 - Killzone 1 got a 6.9 from Gamespot

Metal Gear Solid 4 - It's coming out this fiscal year, which means before April. If it was coming out in 2007 they would have said so.

Ninja Gaiden Sigma - We'll see how many PS3s it sold next week.

The ps3 would sell better than 360 even if the 360 is priced at 300, an the ps3 priced at $399.99 or $449.99, the reason for this is because microsoft already released a 300 dollar 360 which is quite frankly selling worst that the 20gb

If the PS3 was $400 instead of $600 it would be in first place again this generation. Too bad that didn't happen. Also, the $300 360 isn't selling because it's crippled, it's not even remotely worth the money.

You want a link Ill give you a link PS3 GAMES COMING OUT FROM NOW TO MAY 2008 are in this link

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25325706

coming from a sony hater sight this is all the exclusive ps3 games expected to be relaesed from now to MAY 2008.

 

sorry to break it to you, but the PS3 actually has the LEAST exclusive titles of all three consoles:

http://www.gamingtarget.com/article.php?artid=7064

giving a list of a single console is not proof either way.

 


The ps3 has a longer list I just cant find the entire list right now but when I get it I will be sure to post it.

of course it has a longer list. If you take fantasy games into account then yes the PS3 list is longer than on that site. However, whatever criteria you use to produce a PS3 list, you should use the SAME criteria to produce the Xbox360 and Wii list, and you'll find that the PS3 list is still the shortest.

Of course, you will just produce a (mostly wrong) list for the PS3, and then say "see, this proves that the PS3 has the most exclusives". I'm sorry, but the PS3 has the least reliable, confirmed exclusives out of all three consoles. It's a fact. There are the numbers, and the names. You can argue that the games will be better if you want, but don't say there are more because that is a LIE.

 



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ckmlb said:
PS3 sales will go up from here for the rest of the year. Price cut, big exclusives and holidays ahead.

Every month people have claimed that "PS3 sales will go up from here for the rest of the year" ...

 



ckmlb said:
PS3 sales will go up from here for the rest of the year. Price cut, big exclusives and holidays ahead.

Undoubtedly the PS3 sales will improve at some point, its naive for anyone to think they'll keep atrophying to the point of failing the system. The real question here is though, how much will a Price Cut and "Big Exclusives" help sales, how long will the keep sales up and will it be enough to detour the possibility of Sony's discontinument of the PlayStation 3.

A better question would be though, Can we really claim there is any "necessity" for the existence of the PlayStation line to Sony or even its gaming division anymore? By the time the PS3 becomes profitable or mainstream (if it ever becomes either) Blu-Ray will not only have been made or broken as a worthwhile format irregardless but will most likely have become a more worthwhile and affordable purchase in itself. With the weekly drop in PS3 sales and continued advances in diode technology it becomes ever more argumentative as to how much the Blu-Ray or Sony really needs the PS3 as a vehicle of appeal. At best we can conclude the PS3, to a certain extent, needs Blu-Ray but not vice-versa, and if that's not the case now, it soon will be.

Everyone is entitled to their optimism but the fact of the matter remains that the PlayStation 3, as a mediocre flop of a system (at this point in time) and as a money pit is not only a potential threat to Sony's financial stability and investors but has essentially become a moot endeavor in itself now that Blu-Ray is on the verge of spreading its own wings. In fact one could argue that even associating the two could cast doubt on the fledgling disc fomrat's future as the PS3 (whether you agree with it or not) has come to symbolize for many the quintisential icon of huberus, excess and technological inflation. This connection is not only furthered by the fact that both the PS3 and Blu-Ray were essentially launched together (almost as one entity even), but both share similar positions in their markets as the most powerful and most expensive.

It's not even a situation where you can argue Sony would lose money to abandon the PS3, they would honestly probably see a renewed confidence in their company's management and future as I'm sure would be voiced across the land by overzealous market analysts. And should the best case scenario occur and the PS3 eventually become the top runner of this race it would be years before even a minimal profit was seen if any at all, and its benefit to Blu-Ray, arguable at best, its a no win situation really.



Sony isn't Sega they have enough money in the bank to stay in gaming for along time to come and the main reason that Sony is as popular as they are now is the PS2.
Price cut boosted sales on Amazon by 2800% this is a sign that times are changing and Ninja Gaiden Sigma has been released which is much better than the original and is amazing the graphics superb and it instantly grabs you in and you can't put it down.



End of 2014 Hardware Predictions (03/03/14)

PlayStation 4: 12-15million

Xbox One: 7-10 million

Wii U: 8-9 million (Changed 01/04/2014 from 7-9 --> 8-9 million)

Thats it ps3 is officially selling better than the 360 and possibly better than the wii in the U.S.



 

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Sony isn't Sega they have enough money in the bank to stay in gaming for along time to come and the main reason that Sony is as popular as they are now is the PS2.
Price cut boosted sales on Amazon by 2800% this is a sign that times are changing and Ninja Gaiden Sigma has been released which is much better than the original and is amazing the graphics superb and it instantly grabs you in and you can't put it down.

But how long will the sales boost last?

I would wait at least a couple of weeks before I made the claim that these sales were a sign that "times are changing." The PS3 sold (roughly) 1 Million systems at $600 in Europe and (immediately) PS3 fanboys claimed that Sony owned Europe yet weeks later sales dropped off rapidly; the level of sales that the PS3 returns to will largely determine what the impact of the price drop was.