no, no, no, no.

PS2 was out for 16mo in the US, and a bit longer (about 20) in Japan before E3 2002.

Sony got word that MS was intent on reducing their then-failing Xbox (which sold 86,000 units in April of 2002, btw). They knew it'd render the Xbox in prime position, so they knee-jerked a $100 pricecut to $200, matching the Xbox's new price of $200. Although Sony announced it first @ E3, it was only because MS had already made the decision, and I do believe MS's was implemented first.

The effect: The Xbox's sales in the US increased from ~86,000 units to ~180,000 units in the next NPD cycle. The PS2 stayed steady, and continued it's dominating lead, but MS prevented a complete blowout and GC dominance by the price cut. Which as far as I know, led Nintendo to drop the GC price quicker too.

 I posted twice about the stability of the 360.  That's it.  One was even on topic with people talking about Forza.  Yet... I look around and there are tons of posts on how PS3 games look like total crap...  hmm, bias much?  Did I hit a nerve?  You want me to list the offending posts for you?

 I agree with Andir, Stick. I'm not a mod, I know that, but I do feel you're being harsh here. 

All I was pointing to is that it's perfectly and openly acceptable around here to point and laugh at the PS3 sales, or game ports, but I mention the stability of the 360 and I'm threatened openly with banning. I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed.

 So the Dreamcast was doomed from the start! EA refused to make games for them.

I tried before too, its not worth it, this is teh worst modded forum on the interwebs, just accept it.

On topic: I think like someone said with Madden just look for games now being announced. As long as companies are announcing games the system is being used its not going away. But its really subjective in terms of "failing" Does the 360 fail even if it takes away from Sony's home integration penetration? Does the PS3 fail if it selles the least consoles but Sony ends up wining th eBD market and making more money? The Wii, well, as of right now its making new games and selling like crazy so theres not much you can say about it "failing"

Thsi generation is too complex for better or worse where a company liek Sony or MSFT could sell the least consoles but still be successful with what they were trying to accomplish. 

FAILURE Is subjective.

currently the 360 is a failure in quality of product(console itself quality, not the games)

currently the ps3 is a failure in sales WW...especially in japan, so much so that if the current sale trends continue through to the end of the fiscal year, it will be basically irrelevant in japan as a console- sure it will get good games but nintendo will have close to 75 to 80% of the current(360 wii, ps3) console market wrapped up -in japan
(wii currently has ~68% of the japan console marketshare-ps3 23% 360 9%).

currently the wii is a failure in...getting enough units to the stores...

A failure, would be a console that has no games, no exclusives, and is selling less than a thousand a month ww.

It never reaches into profit margins.No 3rd party exclusives what so ever.Doesnt sell during Christmas period.