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Soriku said:
bbsin said:
Soriku said:

@bbsin

I don't. It's cheaper to just make one on the Wii and the Wii Japan userbase will be much higher anyway. With MH3 they could familiarize more people to the series on the Wii so there's no point at all to make one on the PS3. I'm not sure a good deal of PS3 owners would care about MH.

Look at it this way. If the Wii is so ideal to develop for, wouldn't we see a Street fighter, Bionic commando, DMC4, RE5, etc on the Wii? There's also a much stronger DS install base in Japan oppsed to PSP, what prevented Capcom from making Monster hunter on the DS?  It's not always about the install base, sometimes the studios want to make the best product possible, and sometimes it's not going to be the cheapest option.

 

Half of those games started before the Wii came out, Street Fighter could still hit the Wii, and Bionic Commando I'm not so sure about. Those games aren't MH though. MH only has (VERY) limited appeal in the West and gets the majority of its sales from Japan. When Wii sales in Japan are MUCH, MUCH higher than PS3 sales in Japan...what's the point of making a MH on the PS3.

And half of those games started BEFORE the PS3 came out aswell.

Like I said before, the DS sales in Japan was MUCH MUCH higher than PSP sales, but what stopped capcom from releasing it on the DS instead? If the producer decides the next console MH game (after 3 for the Wii) needs a hefty graphical upgrade and the PS3 happens to have a respecatable install base (even IF it's much smaller than the Wii) then that alone would be the point of making MH on the PS3.

 



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Soriku said:
@Torillian

No...but it's not like we know a system yet so that can still be argued. MH3 is never going to the PS3...so why continue arguing?

@bbsin

MHF released on the PSP in 2005. The DS came out in 2004. In 2005, the DS was still being considered as a "shovelware" system and sales weren't incredibly high to begin with. They just happened to use the PSP's power to make a worthy game and it turned out to be a success. Of course, more and more MH fans grew on the PSP, so they kept putting more and more MHs on it. They're putting MH3 on the Wii. If MH3 turns out to be a huge successs...why make a PS3 version MH then? I mean if MHF on the PSP bombed you don't think they'd put more on it, right? There's really no point in a MH on the PS3.

Did you play any of the Monster Hunter games?(I assume not because you probably don't have a PSP)

 



@Soriku
perhaps it's not completely parallel, I admit that I'm slightly over zealous when it comes to putting forth your desire to not argue about KH3 with one side of your mouth and then your instigating the argument with the other. Because I hate it.

That being said, they should just let it go, there is no indication that MH will come to PS3 so there's no reason to argue as such.



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DMeisterJ said:
Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G for the PSP in America seems most likely.

I agree with your statement.

And may I just say DMeisterJ, you really are making quite intelligent and well thought out posts these days. I'm very impressed. And i'm not being sarcastic. I remember the good ol' days when all you shouted about was "Sony is teh awezome!". I really like how you've toned it down. My 2 cents.

 



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Soriku said:

@bbsin

MHF released on the PSP in 2005. The DS came out in 2004. In 2005, the DS was still being considered as a "shovelware" system and sales weren't incredibly high to begin with. They just happened to use the PSP's power to make a worthy game and it turned out to be a success. Of course, more and more MH fans grew on the PSP, so they kept putting more and more MHs on it. They're putting MH3 on the Wii. If MH3 turns out to be a huge successs...why make a PS3 version MH then? I mean if MHF on the PSP bombed you don't think they'd put more on it, right? There's really no point in a MH on the PS3.

what does the release date of the DS have to do with anything? the PSP was released on the same month.

Anyways, you're not looking at the big picture. The reason why Monster Hunter was on the PSP instead of the DS was because Capcom could produce a more suitable game to their initial vision. Inother words, to make the best game possible, they used the superior hardware specs on the PSP to make the game they intended to make in the first place, eventhough the DS sold more hardware (and can pottentially sell more software). Now, the reason why MH is on the Wii in the first place it because of the PS3's very slow start in Japan, and the cost of development vs return. What do you think will happen if the PS3 gains a much more respectable install base to warrent the cost of development? If you were a business man, would you rather have money, or money + more money? I'm not saying that capcom would abandon the Wii all of a sudden, but if they can have two MH console games that make money off of two/three different consoles then what would be the point of NOT releasing the game on the Wii? Especially if the producer desides to upgrade the technology.



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The reason Monster Hunter is on the PSP is so Capcom could rehash the PS2 assets for lower development costs. This is Capcom we're talking about, the best "vision" to come out of them this generation was Mega Man 9.

And what's with this new "if the PS3 starts selling" apologist bull all of a sudden? It's not going to make FF13 goexclusive again and it's not going to swing Monster Hunter back to the PS3. The PS3 might get a spinoff somewhere down the line but there's little to go off to suggest that Capcom might ping pong between the two consoles before the game even gets released.



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Unlike, the biggest market fpr this game is Japan.


Probaly he was talking about MHF2 in USA for PSP.



Soriku said:
bbsin said:
Soriku said:

@bbsin

MHF released on the PSP in 2005. The DS came out in 2004. In 2005, the DS was still being considered as a "shovelware" system and sales weren't incredibly high to begin with. They just happened to use the PSP's power to make a worthy game and it turned out to be a success. Of course, more and more MH fans grew on the PSP, so they kept putting more and more MHs on it. They're putting MH3 on the Wii. If MH3 turns out to be a huge successs...why make a PS3 version MH then? I mean if MHF on the PSP bombed you don't think they'd put more on it, right? There's really no point in a MH on the PS3.

what does the release date of the DS have to do with anything? the PSP was released on the same month.

Anyways, you're not looking at the big picture. The reason why Monster Hunter was on the PSP instead of the DS was because Capcom could produce a more suitable game to their initial vision. Inother words, to make the best game possible, they used the superior hardware specs on the PSP to make the game they intended to make in the first place, eventhough the DS sold more hardware (and can pottentially sell more software). Now, the reason why MH is on the Wii in the first place it because of the PS3's very slow start in Japan, and the cost of development vs return. What do you think will happen if the PS3 gains a much more respectable install base to warrent the cost of development? If you were a business man, would you rather have money, or money + more money? I'm not saying that capcom would abandon the Wii all of a sudden, but if they can have two MH console games that make money off of two/three different consoles then what would be the point of NOT releasing the game on the Wii? Especially if the producer desides to upgrade the technology.

 

THe bit about the PS3 having a respectable fanbase...I don't see that antytime soon. The PS3 is still selling 10k or near near 10k a week. SC IV had no effect whatsoever. The last boost was MGS4...and that's a pretty big game. No other games in the future can do that. The only upcoming hopes in Japan that can actually boost the PS3 well enough is...FF XIII and maybe WKC. Those are still a while off, though I think WKC might be releasing this year.

As for our money + more money proposition, why not just make money + even more money than money on the PS3? If MH3 gets a respectable fanbase on the Wii...why make a PS3 one? It's the same as the MHFs. Why not make a MHF for the DS when Japan sales (heck, WW sales) are so high? Simple. MH has a respectable fanbase on the PSP. Why make a game on a system that's undecided whether or not it could be as big as a success on as the other system? Makes no sense.

And like Claude said, they basically rehashed the PS2 MH assets and for MHF and it turned out to be a success.

 

You're mixing words. We're talking about the PS3 having a respectable install base, the fanbase, in all likely hood is there but without a game(s), there's no reason for that fanbase to buy in. The part with the PS3 and getting a repectable install base is completely theoretical, which is why i doubt you see the logic in this. I can't say when or how the PS3 will gain any substantial ground in Japan, but i do know that if they weren't in the same bind as they are now, it would be much easier for Sony to get some 3rd party franchises on their side (obviously).

But, yeah. Claude is right about the rehashing of MH onto the PSP, which like I said, wouldn't be practical if they rehashed the franchise on the DS instead. The point is this, Capcom said, they decided to release Monster Hunter 3 on the Wii for two reasons: 1. The development costs for the PS3 was too expensive 2. The success of the Wii in Japan makes the decision logical. Now, this entire topic is based on whether MH would be possible on the PS3 IF it ever gained a successful base to warrant the cost of development. Think about it, what would prevent Capcom (the guys that rereleased RE4 multiple times) from releasing a MH game (or spinoff) on other consoles if they could gain reasonable profit from it? At that point, Capcom could do many things, port the game, rehash the same game on the PS3, or make a dedicated spinoff. All of which they've done in the past for other consoles. Working on one console is a business limitation, Working on two successful consoles is a business limitation with less limits.

With multiplatform development becoming so common nowadays, i fail to see why this would be any different.



Chrizum said:
Article: As we all know, Monster Hunter 3 was moved from the PS3 to the Wii, to which everyone, even Wii fans, were stunned. This left a sour taste in the mouth of Monster Hunter fans, but it looks like Capcom may be changing its tune.

Could someone clarify that for me? Don't they mean "PS3 fans" instead of "Monster Hunter fans"?

No. Every MH game was on Sony platforms, and a lot of PS2/3/P owning MH fans didn't want it to happen.

The type of game that MH is, lends itself to the strengths of the console.

 



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