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azrm2k on 11 August 2008
Bursche said:

And since 9/11 there hasnt been another domestic attack in the US, so how did Bush fail this way exactly?

 

Wait, was that just the Simpsons' Bear Patrol logic? 

Homer: Not a bear in sight. The Bear Patrol must be working like a
charm.
Lisa: That's spacious reasoning, Dad.
Homer: Thank you, dear.
Lisa: By your logic I could claim that this rock keeps tigers away.
Homer: Oh, how does it work?
Lisa: It doesn't work.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: It's just a stupid rock.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: But I don't see any tigers around, do you?
[Homer thinks of this, then pulls out some money]
Homer: Lisa, I want to buy your rock.
[Lisa refuses at first, then takes the exchange]



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konnichiwa on 11 August 2008

Bill Clinton.






Bursche on 11 August 2008
azrm2k said:
Bursche said:

And since 9/11 there hasnt been another domestic attack in the US, so how did Bush fail this way exactly?

 

Wait, was that just the Simpsons' Bear Patrol logic? 

Homer: Not a bear in sight. The Bear Patrol must be working like a
charm.
Lisa: That's spacious reasoning, Dad.
Homer: Thank you, dear.
Lisa: By your logic I could claim that this rock keeps tigers away.
Homer: Oh, how does it work?
Lisa: It doesn't work.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: It's just a stupid rock.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: But I don't see any tigers around, do you?
[Homer thinks of this, then pulls out some money]
Homer: Lisa, I want to buy your rock.
[Lisa refuses at first, then takes the exchange]

I was replaying to RubangG when he said "If you are the leader of the military, your priority is to gather intelligence as quickly as possible to help defend your country while it's under attack"

Bush did that, and there hasnt been another domestic attack since. Has Al-Quada hit other nations since 9/11? Yes, remember the Madrid bombing. Just like you can credit FDR for not allowing another domestic attack, you can credit Bush for the same.

Hell, even under Clinton we had more domestic terrorist attacks than Bush.

 



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quarashi on 11 August 2008

Anyone who can get a bj in the oval office from someone not the First Lady, gets my vote.  But in all seriousness Clinto gets my vote.  I liked him way more.

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MontanaHatchet on 11 August 2008
RCTjunkie said:

MontanaHatchet said:g

By the way RCTjunkie, I was kind of hoping you were talking about Bush Senior until you gave your 7th reason, and then it all clicked. We're supposed to give Bush credit because he didn't cause a recession? You know, one could argue that we're already in a recession, but even if we aren't, who's to say we won't be in one by the time his term ends?

Look, when it comes to Dems, don't forget about Jimmy Carter. These same failed economic principals held onto by Clinton, and now Obama have been proven, like socialism, to be a failure. The only reason Clinton had a good economy was because the House & Senate were republican-controlled, which prevented these failed policies. Newt is a great American hero. BTW, this is the last time we had a balanced budget due to republican economic sensibility.

And the economy has grown with Bush? Well, you'd have to be a really terrible president to actually make the economy shrink (this also goes with you giving credit for him not causing a recession).

Also, Bush had 9-11, Katrina, Iraq, ect. It would be hard for Clinton to have gone through it.

So, moral leadership returned to the white house? I mean...come on! If you were standing under a picture of Karl Rove or Scooter Libby, could you really say that with a straight face?

I thought this was about Bush and Clinton... and if we're talking about the whole house, then both sides had terrible moral leadership.

To end, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, but history is on my side.

Signing off.

And remember, no country has taxed himself to greatness.

 

The day democratic policies on the economy even closely resemble socialism, I might agree with you. But they don't. However, I guess that's "in" these days so I won't bother arguing with it.

And while I agree that several Democrats have been terrible for the economy...so have several Republicans. Hey, remember that time when there was a terrible depression under a Republican which was fixed with increased Socialism and more government involvement, all from a Democrat? I'm sure they taught you about it in school.

So, Clinton couldn't have gone through "9-11, Katrina, Iraq, etc.?" Why couldn't he have? 9-11 and Katrina couldn't have cost more than a billion dollars to repair/recover from (and I honestly have no idea how much it cost so I'm giving a generous figure). But then you call out the war in Iraq, which Bush caused himself (so it would be a little silly to blame Clinton for something that only he could have caused, and he likely wouldn't have). And Bush handled Katrina in the most laughable manner possible. If you want some reading material, I can provide you with it. Hell, the Iraqi war has cost over a trillion dollars up to this point, and a lot of that money is growing into debt towards other countries. You know, as if the American debt wasn't great enough...

 



 

 

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ssj12 on 11 August 2008

which Bush? Jr or Sr?



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The Ghost of RubangB on 11 August 2008

Clinton's missile strikes in Afghanistan missed Bin Laden by a few hours. Fucker got lucky. Clinton was closer than Bush ever was to getting him.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/clinton.asp


Clinton ordered the assassination of Bin Laden later but couldn't find him this time.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1558918.stm



People thought Clinton was nuts when he was talking about terrorism all the time. Nobody remembers this because it's been overshadowed by Lewinsky. But the anti-terror budget tripled under Clinton.


Clinton explains his attempts to hunt Bin Laden himself, in an interview, after dooshbags ask him why he didn't do enough.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14986702/



Basically, the Cole got bombed in the east Mediterranean in 2000, right before the election. Clinton wanted revenge, AND BUSH DIDN'T. Bush did not flex a pinky fighting terrorism until 9/11. Clinton had been fighting terrorist his entire administration. The information was all there for the Bush administration, and they didn't give a fuck.

And then when several foreign countries' intelligence agencies warned us about a plan to attack with planes, we didn't do shit. Israeli spies in Hollywood, Florida warned us, after they were tracking the Al-Qaeda men while they were at flight school, and what did we do? Threw them out of the country and didn't listen.



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Sansui on 12 August 2008

Who was better, george bush or bill clinton? Man... I think a more relevant questions would be whether or not there is any other president in history that has been a worse president than Bush.

We definitely had a couple incompetents, like Warren Harding and Ulysses S. Grant, and some corrupt ones like Nixon, but Bush is in a class all by himself IMO.

Bill Clinton was a good president, I'm not sure I would say truly great, but he was competent, well liked, and pretty fiscally responsible.
appolose on 12 August 2008
The Ghost of RubangB said:
Clinton's missile strikes in Afghanistan missed Bin Laden by a few hours. Fucker got lucky. Clinton was closer than Bush ever was to getting him.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/clinton.asp


Clinton ordered the assassination of Bin Laden later but couldn't find him this time.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1558918.stm



People thought Clinton was nuts when he was talking about terrorism all the time. Nobody remembers this because it's been overshadowed by Lewinsky. But the anti-terror budget tripled under Clinton.


Clinton explains his attempts to hunt Bin Laden himself, in an interview, after dooshbags ask him why he didn't do enough.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14986702/



Basically, the Cole got bombed in the east Mediterranean in 2000, right before the election. Clinton wanted revenge, AND BUSH DIDN'T. Bush did not flex a pinky fighting terrorism until 9/11. Clinton had been fighting terrorist his entire administration. The information was all there for the Bush administration, and they didn't give a fuck.

And then when several foreign countries' intelligence agencies warned us about a plan to attack with planes, we didn't do shit. Israeli spies in Hollywood, Florida warned us, after they were tracking the Al-Qaeda men while they were at flight school, and what did we do? Threw them out of the country and didn't listen.

 

Oh, come on, aren't you claiming quite a bit about Bush and the prior 9-11 warnings?



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The Ghost of RubangB on 12 August 2008

Bill Clinton was absolutely LOVED by the American people. The anti-Clinton folks want his legacy to only be Lewinskygate, but the fact remains that his approval rating was 65% when he left office, higher than any president since WW2.


Approval ratings over 8 years:

(Clinton on left. Bush on right.)




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