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If you are the leader of the military, your priority is to gather intelligence as quickly as possible to help defend your country while it's under attack, and freaking out a couple kids is acceptable. He could've just said "Excuse me, something important just came up," and walked outside. He's the president. Everybody knows he has important shit to handle.

We took out Al-Qaeda?


And does anybody know how much money the average American got from Bush's tax cuts?



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I love starting controversy with my rantings. Rubang B, I love you. You are the ultimate hippy and you kick ass.

By the way RCTjunkie, I was kind of hoping you were talking about Bush Senior until you gave your 7th reason, and then it all clicked. We're supposed to give Bush credit because he didn't cause a recession? You know, one could argue that we're already in a recession, but even if we aren't, who's to say we won't be in one by the time his term ends?

And the economy has grown with Bush? Well, you'd have to be a really terrible president to actually make the economy shrink (this also goes with you giving credit for him not causing a recession).

So, moral leadership returned to the white house? I mean...come on! If you were standing under a picture of Karl Rove or Scooter Libby, could you really say that with a straight face?



 

 

The Ghost of RubangB said:
If you are the leader of the military, your priority is to gather intelligence as quickly as possible to help defend your country while it's under attack, and freaking out a couple kids is acceptable. He could've just said "Excuse me, something important just came up," and walked outside. He's the president. Everybody knows he has important shit to handle.

We took out Al-Qaeda?


And does anybody know how much money the average American got from Bush's tax cuts?

 

 And only a few days later we knew exactly who attacked us. And since 9/11 there hasnt been another domestic attack in the US, so how did Bush fail this way exactly?

And yes, Al-Qaeda went from a top terrorist organization to a dwindling insurgency, who are mostly on the run and are treated as crimials instead of liberators.

Seriously, you are trying to find anything to make Bush even worse, and the only thing that is worse than someone who ignores someone's faults, is someone who doesnt see someone's accomplishments.

 

Bush might have done many many bad things for our country, but the fact of the matter is that he handled 9/11 very well, and that will be his legacy.



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RCTjunkie said:
Bush...
Under him, there's never been a recession
Terrorist got stronger under Clinton, Bush stopped them.
The official count of homeless went from 175,000 to 120,000
The # of Minority owned buisness went up over 40% compared to Clinton
Economy wasn't falsely boomed by the .com era
Americans could keep more money from tax cuts
Economy grown every quarter since Bush started, dispise 9-11, Hurricain Katrina, Mortgage crisis and war in Iraq
Moral leadership returned to the white house. (No lying to Grand Jury, ect)

Also, anyone saying people not saying Clinton is an idiot is very rude.

 

Bush pardoned Scooter Libby for obstruction of justice.  He lets people in his administration obstruct justice, and he pardons them.  There goes moral leadership.

We haven't stopped terrorism.  I'll believe that when Bush declares victory in the war on terror, just like he did in Iraq.

Clinton had a team following Bin Laden around the world ready to assassinate him if he did anything crazy.  When Bush got elected, he called that team off, because he thought they were a waste of money, and he wanted to try to stay peaceful with Afghanistan.

 

 

How much money did Americans get from his tax cuts?

 

 



The Ghost of RubangB said:
 

 

Clinton had a team following Bin Laden around the world ready to assassinate him if he did anything crazy.  When Bush got elected, he called that team off, because he thought they were a waste of money, and he wanted to try to stay peaceful with Afghanistan.

 

 

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9/11 was a giant unforgivable failure at every level of the administration that cost thousands of American civilian lives.

And the only person who lost his job over it was Bill Maher.

If your only legacy is getting bombed and then giving a speech on a pile of rubble, while hurricanes and a food crisis and oil crisis and housing crisis ravish your country, you're a pathetic joke. He will be remembered as such 50 years from now. I'll bookmark this thread for 50 years and then link to a history book written in 2058.



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By the way RCTjunkie, I was kind of hoping you were talking about Bush Senior until you gave your 7th reason, and then it all clicked. We're supposed to give Bush credit because he didn't cause a recession? You know, one could argue that we're already in a recession, but even if we aren't, who's to say we won't be in one by the time his term ends?

Look, when it comes to Dems, don't forget about Jimmy Carter. These same failed economic principals held onto by Clinton, and now Obama have been proven, like socialism, to be a failure. The only reason Clinton had a good economy was because the House & Senate were republican-controlled, which prevented these failed policies. Newt is a great American hero. BTW, this is the last time we had a balanced budget due to republican economic sensibility.

And the economy has grown with Bush? Well, you'd have to be a really terrible president to actually make the economy shrink (this also goes with you giving credit for him not causing a recession).

Also, Bush had 9-11, Katrina, Iraq, ect. It would be hard for Clinton to have gone through it.

So, moral leadership returned to the white house? I mean...come on! If you were standing under a picture of Karl Rove or Scooter Libby, could you really say that with a straight face?

I thought this was about Bush and Clinton... and if we're talking about the whole house, then both sides had terrible moral leadership.

To end, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, but history is on my side.

Signing off.

And remember, no country has taxed himself to greatness.

 



The Ghost of RubangB said:
9/11 was a giant unforgivable failure at every level of the administration that cost thousands of American civilian lives.

And the only person who lost his job over it was Bill Maher.

If your only legacy is getting bombed and then giving a speech on a pile of rubble, while hurricanes and a food crisis and oil crisis and housing crisis ravish your country, you're a pathetic joke. He will be remembered as such 50 years from now. I'll bookmark this thread for 50 years and then link to a history book written in 2058.

 

 Yes, because we knew that 9/11 was going to happen right? /conspiracy theories unveil

 

His legacy will be mostly bad, but like I said, he handled 9/11 very well and that will be the highlight of his legacy, and maybe Iraq depending on how everything turns out. I havent seen you state any facts to disprove how he handled 9/11 unfavorabley. All you seem to be doing is drinking the Anti-Bush Kool-Aid instead of seeing the good and the bad.



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And yet, he's not been impeached... by Democrat-majority Congress.
I don't think we know too much about most of the administration.



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