Tispower said: The flash player works on the PS3, because you can view flash things on it, however, I have so far failed to manage to use YouTube on the PSP browser. @Kwaad, you sure it's Mozilla? So the PS3's browser is actually a version of Firefox is it?

I think it has components of Firefox... I would love for it to be the full version, that would be very cool... I don't want to go to the trouble of formatting and partioning my HD for Linux though.... probably will ecentually(soon as I get an external USB HD)

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It's no excuse. Opera Wii uses Flash 7 because that's the only version Adobe currently provides source for, which other vendors can port to their platforms. So, short of building a Flash alternative themselves (or somehow convincing Adobe to port a more recent version of Flash to their platform, which they won't do easily), Flash 7 is the best you can get. It also has smaller memory requirements, which helps on the Wii (and the PSP), but I'd be very surprised if even the PS3 supported Flash 8 or 9 right now.

Tispower said: @Kwaad, you sure it's Mozilla?

As far as I know, it's not. And I'd really like to see a source for that.

Wikipedia points to NetFront developed by Access Co. Ltd., which is a proprietary browser for embed devices. The PSP, as well as the N-Gage and other similar devices, uses this browser too.

@Kwaad et all, the user agent being "Mozilla/5.0 (PLAYSTATION 3; ...)" means nothing at all. I mean, IE7 is "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; ...)", think that's Mozilla too?

Opera for PCs only start to be free to compete with firefox... and if I can't have it free on the WII (I'm planing in buy WII only at the end of the year) so I'll have to wait for homebrews and use my beloved firefox... but I'll never pay for a browser if there is another one better, free and with loads of add-ons (and I use it a lot)...

PS3 works with Ubuntu, you can have konqueror, mozilla, firefox, whatever... if Wiili works some day I'll be happy, IMO linux and PS1 games (FF7 fan) are the better think in PS3...

Kwaad said: Yeah. This is kinda sad. And I just wanna point out, Opera has always been Sub-Par in comparison to Mozilla since Mozlla first came out. And mozilla has always been 100% free. PS3 uses it, and PSP uses it. Works quite nice.

Actually Opera generally has had fewer security issues than Firefox.  And their code is smaller.  I'd love to see someone try to get Firefox to run on a Nintendo DS. :P

In the end, Nintendo wasn't going to work with Microsoft and probably didn't team up with Firefox due to their open source nature.  So that naturally left Opera as the team to go to and I don't think it was a bad choice.  It does suck that Nintendo is now charging for it though. 

BlindSight said: The browser itself isn't really that useful, unless you don't have a PC, but a number of sites have used the browser to add extra functionality to the Wii. Various sites offer different ways to stream audio and video on your Wii. I've tried out a couple of these and some work fairly well. Since the Wii can't really present video or let you play your own music (unless in the photo channel), the browser has gotten a lot more attention because of these sites that allow you to stream media to it.

Please gimme the names :D... I've tried one, but the music don't works and only FLV videos, what sucks a lot...

Steve 3.2 said: In the end, Nintendo wasn't going to work with Microsoft and probably didn't team up with Firefox due to their open source nature.

I fail to see what's wrong with open-source software, I mean the add-ons for Firefox can be incredibly useful. AdblockPlus for instance is really great (thanks twesterm for that ), also you can embed a Windows Media Player in it with "FoxyTunes", "ForecastFox" tells you the weather forecast, "IE Tab" enables you to open up IE tabs from within Firefox, and StumbleUpon is also pretty cool. So I fail to see what is wrong with the opensource nature of Firefox, can someone help me here?

Steve 3.2 said: In the end, Nintendo wasn't going to work with Microsoft and probably didn't team up with Firefox due to their open source nature.  So that naturally left Opera as the team to go to and I don't think it was a bad choice.  It does suck that Nintendo is now charging for it though.Â

 There's always Safari! Nintendo already went with white hardware and i's, why not go with Apple's browser as well?

Nintendo is learning what MS has already known. The intenet and its various components aren't free.

Opera one day, multiplayer the next.

In my opinion the reason they are charging a small fee is because they had opera design the browser specifically for them. It isn't the standard opera browser is it? (I don't know since I've never used the PC opera browser). I don't think charging 5 bucks is all that bad. Hell, I pay more than that for a coffee from starbucks...

However, I don't particularily like the browsing on the wii. Not sure if its my home network or my isp or what, but damn its slow. And it seems to time out like half the time. It was kinda fun at the beginning, and saved those arduous trips to the computer to look something up, but I'd hate to do some serious browsing on that thing.