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souixan on 30 July 2008
Skeeuk said:
souixan said:
Skeeuk said:
ive used psn since i got my ps3 its superb and easy to use. all the games i play onlne like cod4 burnout and gta4 play perfectly. i see no reason 2 pay 39.99 a year to play them same games over live.

once the free home network is out i cant see the point in live.

live has a couple more functions than psn, and some p2p games like vegas2 seem more stable over live than psn. but even so i still play vegas2 get into games etc on psn.

 

If you want to be honest, XBL's structure yields one big benefit over PSN's. Small companies can include online features and modes to their games because Microsoft is footing the server bill where on PSN the small companies could not afford to do it and sony does not provide it.

In the end XBL has a lot more online games by far most of the downloadable games have online modes where PSN games and PS3 games by and large are limited on their online modes. It's all up to preference personally I play Smash bros online more often than anything on PSN or 360. I won't pay to play and I dislike shooters...

well i respect your opinion, but a machine thats been out for nearly 16months longer than ps3, obviously its going to have more online games, but that doesnt make live better.

i agree live has some features that are better than psn, but the fact remains that i can play all my online enabled games perfectly for free. psn being free is by far and larger reason of it being better.

i stick with my opinion in when home is released, theres no point in live. the features in home are better than anything on 360 live can offer.

but you are right in saying its a preference

 


I wasn't really stating an opinion and yes I agree the amount of time out does have something to say for the amount of game. However, even taking into consideration that factor XBL offers more games with online through % of games out which can only be harder to attain as you get more games.

I wasn't saying that it had more online games to make it sound better, in truth the services are pretty much identical except in the games offered. What I was pointing out is Microsofts structure allows a company that normally could not provide online modes to do so as they don't have to support it Microsoft will. That was a big point of Xbox live, and one reason Microsoft can justify charging.

The end result is who is paying for the games? On PSN the developer is supporting and paying for the servers on Xboxlive the user is paying for it to enable more developers to take advantage of the structure.

Better, worse has no bearing in my statement but I will respect your right to think whichever way you like, I was merely stating they were different structures that benefit different people.



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goddog on 30 July 2008

my friends are on it, and i can find them easily, get game invites while in other games... um i like dash board quite abit, though i thought it was better before the refinemnet from the last update



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Jo21 on 30 July 2008
MorgZ said:
I cant really be bothered to enter into a + / - battle but I would say that £30 / year for great online play is not an awful lot, infact its frankly bugger all. £2.50 a month which is around the price of a pint of lager.

The better value comment makes me laugh.

Based on UK prices you could buy:

-360 Pro
- 2 years worth of live
- Bioshock
- Lost Odyssey
- Halo3
- MassEffect
(will dig out links and prices if required!)

OR

- a PS3 without games

Fairly easy better value for money proposition in my opinion. Anyone saying this 10 year lifecycle rubbish needs to realise just how long that is and that any serious console gamer is inevitably going to be buying the xbox3 / playstation4 / wii2 before the 10 year ps3 cycle is up.

 

months that you will not be able to use due RRoD



souixan on 30 July 2008
Jo21 said:
MorgZ said:
I cant really be bothered to enter into a + / - battle but I would say that £30 / year for great online play is not an awful lot, infact its frankly bugger all. £2.50 a month which is around the price of a pint of lager.

The better value comment makes me laugh.

Based on UK prices you could buy:

-360 Pro
- 2 years worth of live
- Bioshock
- Lost Odyssey
- Halo3
- MassEffect
(will dig out links and prices if required!)

OR

- a PS3 without games

Fairly easy better value for money proposition in my opinion. Anyone saying this 10 year lifecycle rubbish needs to realise just how long that is and that any serious console gamer is inevitably going to be buying the xbox3 / playstation4 / wii2 before the 10 year ps3 cycle is up.

 

months that you will not be able to use due RRoD


Nice to see you're not above blatant attacks to other people having a legitimate conversation. For one when you do such a thing you log onto your PC and halt your account till you get it back. For another fact, the newer chips do RRoD a lot less often and at least there was a 3 year warranty extension to it. It's not as though they're blatantly ignoring the problem anymore.

colonelstubbs on 30 July 2008
souixan said:
Jo21 said:
MorgZ said:
I cant really be bothered to enter into a + / - battle but I would say that £30 / year for great online play is not an awful lot, infact its frankly bugger all. £2.50 a month which is around the price of a pint of lager.

The better value comment makes me laugh.

Based on UK prices you could buy:

-360 Pro
- 2 years worth of live
- Bioshock
- Lost Odyssey
- Halo3
- MassEffect
(will dig out links and prices if required!)

OR

- a PS3 without games

Fairly easy better value for money proposition in my opinion. Anyone saying this 10 year lifecycle rubbish needs to realise just how long that is and that any serious console gamer is inevitably going to be buying the xbox3 / playstation4 / wii2 before the 10 year ps3 cycle is up.

 

months that you will not be able to use due RRoD

 

Nice to see you're not above blatant attacks to other people having a legitimate conversation. For one when you do such a thing you log onto your PC and halt your account till you get it back. For another fact, the newer chips do RRoD a lot less often and at least there was a 3 year warranty extension to it. It's not as though they're blatantly ignoring the problem anymore.

At the bolded part- whats the RRoD got to do with online play? Save that for another thread

 



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rocketpig on 30 July 2008

It's simple for me... Voice chat. By not including a headset with the console, PSN will always be lacking compared to XBL when it comes to talking to other players in-game.




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Profcrab on 30 July 2008
rocketpig said:
It's simple for me... Voice chat. By not including a headset with the console, PSN will always be lacking compared to XBL when it comes to talking to other players in-game.

 

While the PS3 has made some online improvements, this will dog them for the life of the console.  It seems like a small thing on paper, but in practice it is a large difference that can be seen in many online games.

I give that post a 9.8.



Thank god for the disable signatures option.

elnino334 on 30 July 2008

You get what you pay for. Like rocketpig mentioned just voice-chat regardless of the game is well worth subscription.



perpride on 30 July 2008

I like PSN because its easy to use and has specific game servers dedicated to specific games. It also doesn't hurt that I don't dish out over a hundred bucks a year for it.

We also got Metal Gear Online and Warhawk, two of the best online games I've ever played.



rocketpig on 30 July 2008
perpride said:
I like PSN because its easy to use and has specific game servers dedicated to specific games. It also doesn't hurt that I don't dish out over a hundred bucks a year for it.

We also got Metal Gear Online and Warhawk, two of the best online games I've ever played.

Um... Okay? If you're paying over $100/year for XBL, I have some ocean front property in Arizona for sale...

 




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