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MontanaHatchet said:

This thread is funny. And the Conservatives inside it are even more hilarious. Hell, I think I'd break my "don't be pretentious" policy just for this thread.

There are some people who we don't usually get in Off Topic that are posting in this thread and providing opinions, so I'd say this is turning out great.

Anyways, what you all fail to realize is that both candidates are complete liars and make up policies based on what they think the largest number of people believe in at that certain moment. This has been going on with nearly every presidential election ever and people still think they're geniuses because they listen to each candidate's views.

Actually, both candidates are pretty much tools of their respective party, so you have to look at which party suits you, and not the candidate. In this case, the Democrats clearly are a lesser of two evils.

"Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

-Albert Einstein

Now, why would you vote for McCain when the Republican party is clearly in shambles? There have been periods where one party was clearly the better choice (Reagan years) and where the opposite party was needed (present day).

Not that I need to convince anyone, Obama is almost certain to win the candidacy, unless the Republicans try one of those smear campaigns which they seem to enjoy so much.

 

Sure its in shambles?  WRONG! I'm a member of various fast growing GOP movements in Arlington, VA and if you do not know that one of the bluest areas of the country!  PS: I vote for McCain because of his experience, realistic approaches to problems, no quasi-socialism, and no increase of govt spending by $500 billion. 

JM will not do direct smear campaigns, only individual PACs and the Washington Post stated that the GOP has no chance because they do bot even have any youth groups in VA.  I suggest you do a little research.

 

edit:  Oh and his tax increases will decrease 360 sales because all good economists know that cutting taxes leads to long term stimulated growth.  Microsoft would be affected and would have to keep the prices the same in Others/Japan to make up for lost profit on corporate gains taxes that your Obama-saviour would impose.

And another thing @ the poster who said I was being racist-if you take a look at Obama you see he is bi-racial-I was providing the information that maybe I shouldn't have since it is clearly obvious.  Oh wait... what's that... this is a global site and people may have not been following his biographical diversity.  Oh shouldn't someone fill them in?  I thought so.

 



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Generation 8 Predictions so far.....(as of 9/2013)

Console that will sell most: Nintendo Wii U

Who will sell more consoles between Microsoft/SONY: SONY

 

mrstickball said:
How about if Obama gets elected it'll have a negative effect? His socialization of every facet of American life will kill the economy, and kill the US gaming industry...And eventually kill MS's video game systems.

Hows that for an answer?

 

*agrees*

I think cripple is a more apt word than kill however.

Gaming industry will survive... Jap economy crashed in the early 90's and never recovered, they still have games.

But socialization, while nice for people without alot of money, overall hurts they economy. Just look at socialized countires around the world.



MontanaHatchet said:

This thread is funny. And the Conservatives inside it are even more hilarious. Hell, I think I'd break my "don't be pretentious" policy just for this thread.

There are some people who we don't usually get in Off Topic that are posting in this thread and providing opinions, so I'd say this is turning out great.

Anyways, what you all fail to realize is that both candidates are complete liars and make up policies based on what they think the largest number of people believe in at that certain moment. This has been going on with nearly every presidential election ever and people still think they're geniuses because they listen to each candidate's views.

Actually, both candidates are pretty much tools of their respective party, so you have to look at which party suits you, and not the candidate. In this case, the Democrats clearly are a lesser of two evils.

"Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

-Albert Einstein

Now, why would you vote for McCain when the Republican party is clearly in shambles? There have been periods where one party was clearly the better choice (Reagan years) and where the opposite party was needed (present day).

Not that I need to convince anyone, Obama is almost certain to win the candidacy, unless the Republicans try one of those smear campaigns which they seem to enjoy so much.

 

Have you seen McCain's voting record? He's far from a servant of the republican party. That's the one good thing about him. He's about the only politician in washington that actually wants to change shit.

He was the last candidate the republican main party wanted.  Which is why when he was winning the primaries vs Bush they threw smear campaigns at him.



MontanaHatchet said:

This thread is funny. And the Conservatives inside it are even more hilarious. Hell, I think I'd break my "don't be pretentious" policy just for this thread.

There are some people who we don't usually get in Off Topic that are posting in this thread and providing opinions, so I'd say this is turning out great.

Anyways, what you all fail to realize is that both candidates are complete liars and make up policies based on what they think the largest number of people believe in at that certain moment. This has been going on with nearly every presidential election ever and people still think they're geniuses because they listen to each candidate's views.

Actually, both candidates are pretty much tools of their respective party, so you have to look at which party suits you, and not the candidate. In this case, the Democrats clearly are a lesser of two evils.

"Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

-Albert Einstein

Now, why would you vote for McCain when the Republican party is clearly in shambles? There have been periods where one party was clearly the better choice (Reagan years) and where the opposite party was needed (present day).

Not that I need to convince anyone, Obama is almost certain to win the candidacy, unless the Republicans try one of those smear campaigns which they seem to enjoy so much.

 

Hmm... I agree with you. I peg Obama's chances of winning at 90%

-the more optomistic canditate wins 75% of the time, and that is Obama. Republicans had a "bad" (unpopular) president, so the next republican either has to compelty disosiate from the former, or have very different policies. McCain is easily comparable to Bush.

-Both candidates have indeed flip flopped, which means they are making up stuff to get votes- gas tax holiday? come on!

That said, I think Obama has a good chance of turning this recession into a depression if he implements to many social programs to fast and pulls out of Iraq and creates a power vacum for Iran to take over the middle east.



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Jandre002 said:
mrstickball said:
How about if Obama gets elected it'll have a negative effect? His socialization of every facet of American life will kill the economy, and kill the US gaming industry...And eventually kill MS's video game systems.

Hows that for an answer?

Yeah I would think someone like mrstickball would have an answer like that...Kill the economy? Just like the last democrat in office right? Yea we better elect another republican who will screw over every day people in order to make the corporate world happy. Guess what though, if the common man isn't happy big corporations aint makin jack shit.

 

I'm just going to pick on this particular comment, but it illustrates one of the greatest misunderstandings in American politics that has been propagated enough for it to be considered "common sense." And that is; "The President Controls the Economy" This is wrong, the executive branch of the government does not have that kind of power and the only branch that has the ability to influence the economy strongly is Congress.

Now Jandre002, I suggest you read a history book and learn about the revolution of 1994, or so it's been called. The American people, so scared of the insane policies that a Liberal/Marxist controlled Congress and White House were thinking of unleashing on the public, voted to hand congress to the republican party, feeling that they could save the economy. And from 1994-2006 (the year a rather intersting shift in congress took place) the Economy did great by posting bigger gains, less taxes, higher tax revenue, surplus, historically low unemployment, etc. The only hiccups were the Dot Com crash and subsequent recession in 01. Anyway, I say all this because it is Congress that holds the most influence on the economy.

You can easily trace it:

1980-1986: Strong Economy/Conservative Congress

1987-1994: Reccession in the beginning and really bad toward the end/Liberal Congress

1995-2000 - Strong Economy/Conservative Congress

2001-2002 - Short Reccession/ 50/50 split in Congress

2003-2006: Good Economy/Conservative Congress

2007-Present: Economic Disaster/Liberal Congress.

 

 



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Kasz216 said:
MontanaHatchet said:

This thread is funny. And the Conservatives inside it are even more hilarious. Hell, I think I'd break my "don't be pretentious" policy just for this thread.

There are some people who we don't usually get in Off Topic that are posting in this thread and providing opinions, so I'd say this is turning out great.

Anyways, what you all fail to realize is that both candidates are complete liars and make up policies based on what they think the largest number of people believe in at that certain moment. This has been going on with nearly every presidential election ever and people still think they're geniuses because they listen to each candidate's views.

Actually, both candidates are pretty much tools of their respective party, so you have to look at which party suits you, and not the candidate. In this case, the Democrats clearly are a lesser of two evils.

"Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

-Albert Einstein

Now, why would you vote for McCain when the Republican party is clearly in shambles? There have been periods where one party was clearly the better choice (Reagan years) and where the opposite party was needed (present day).

Not that I need to convince anyone, Obama is almost certain to win the candidacy, unless the Republicans try one of those smear campaigns which they seem to enjoy so much.

 

Have you seen McCain's voting record? He's far from a servant of the republican party. That's the one good thing about him. He's about the only politician in washington that actually wants to change shit.

He was the last candidate the republican main party wanted. Which is why when he was winning the primaries vs Bush they threw smear campaigns at him.

Ahh, the good ol "illegitimate black child" story

Karl Rove at his best

 



halogamer1989 said:
He isn't a Muslim but is a Christian from Black theology radicalism. He is associated with convict Tony Rezko who he worked out his house deal w/. He is a first gen American w/ a Kenyan college that had an affair with a white Kansas woman at a Hawaiian university-we get Barack Hussein Obama-he spends some childhood in Indonesia in a madrassa-he has only 3 years national level congressional experience-we get a good speech and "Yes we can!"-we hopefully get a loss in Nov. but that's just me . . .

 

What?!?  How DARE you talk negative about the Messiah himself... the one true bringer of Hope and Change... the Dalai Bama!  Once he becomes Absolute Ruler of the Free World President.. you shall be the first to be taken to our "re-education camps", oh non-believer!

What's that you say... we can't do that to you?

Oh really?  Because we've got three words for ya..... YES WE CAN!!!



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

I for one am looking toward's Der New Fuehrer's Obama's arival in Germany and the great speeches he will surely give to his enlightened European followers...

 

 



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

Well, I live in one of those 'Others' countries (I'm assuming the EU counts). I've never seen any real tendency of people around me to avoid American products.

Some might not be too positive about the USA, but they still drink Coca Cola and still buy Hollywood movies. Etc.

I've always thought that MS's problems with selling it's Xbox on 'the continent' (at least) are more due to the fact that people view it as a cheap, somewhat shoddy product. Don't underestimate how much bad press it got from non-gaming publications.

Nintendo seems to sell to a wide audience, but mostly families with kids and the PS3 is bought by well to do PS2 owners and ignored by everyone else because it's too expensive (several people I know want one but don't buy it because it's too expensive).

The PS3 seems to do better than it 'should' due to people still equating gaming with 'Playstation'. Which is, considering two years ago PS2 was all you could see here, not so odd.

(All of this is anecdotal -definitely not 'evidence'-, but thats how it seems to be to me. It's also not how I feel about the consoles. I see all three as a viable option for gaming, each with a different focus)