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Pristine20 on 18 July 2008
Kasz216 said:
mrstickball said:
Don't let the Nintendo fanboys define what is fun.

You can have fun playing Wii Sports, World of Warcraft, Call of Duty, Halo, Red Steel, Wii Play, or any game.

The whole concept behind a videogame is an interactive, video-based game that produces fun.

Fun might be re-inacting yourself as a soldier in a huge, epic battle, or fighting monsters in a great, well-storied fantasy land. It might be in playing virtual tennis, or a golfing game.

Fun doesn't mean gameplay over technology. The best RPG of all time, as cited by most VGC-ers, and elsewher, Chono Trigger (and/or Final Fantasy VII, depending on who you ask) both used groundbreaking technology, and gameplay elements when they came out. So did Mario, Mario 64, and Wii Sports.

For myself, I will take a well-writen good RPG over most other genres, as I like to feel emotion, and get involved in the characters that I play as, rather than a quick, stupid game of . I've always been a fan of long, epic games, because that is what is fun for me. Monopoly might be fun to you, but not to me. Risk or Axis & Allies is more of my type of board game. To each his own. When you have someone say "only this is fun" or "because if has tons of graphics, it's not fun" - Wasn't Star Wars a fun movie to watch in the early 1970's? All of those superb top-notch graphics? It was amazing to see, even in the 90s as a kid for me. Likewise, seeing the Matrix, and the new filming techniqes the director(s) and staff used was groundbreaking, and "fun" for me because I like action and kung-fu movies.

So anyone that says that technology over gameplay isn't fun needs to buy an Atari 2600 then, seriously.

The problem there is that MOST of the better RPGs out there aren't the cutting edge ones. Games like your Disgea's and Suikodens didn't use complicated things. FF6... etc.

To me the Wii is fun for a couple reasons.

1) It offers a real evolution compared to the other two cosnoles. Since the PS1 games have basically been the same, there hasn't been much change. The Wii offers a lot of crazy possibilties for new genres of games.

2) The PS3 and 360 have artifical standards for graphics... and it seems like a large number of games are putting more and more of their budgets on the graphical designers, which to me... is the least important aspect of gaming.

I really wouldn't care if a game had PS1 graphics or PS3 graphics so long as it's fun. If the money could of gone to a longer and more fun game, it seems like a waste. Rather then making sure a characters hair is modeled right or texture mapping. I'd perfer that the RPG i'm playing has more length and more items.

Not that there is anything wrong with the PS3 or 360. I still plan to get both... but to me... the games that interest me on it... are basically the very few ones that are doing stuff new... or doing stuff exceptionally well. While nearly every game on the Wii is a new expierence. (that isn't a halfass port.)

Something like... borderlands and it's procedural weapons generation interests me dozens of times more then like Killzone 2.

I've played hundreds of PS1 and PS2 games.  I'm lookin for that next step.

I wasn't saying I got a ps3 because of graphics if thats whats spurned your post. I'm playing through LOD (ps1) right now. It's miles away from being a graphical powerhouse. The wii didn't turn me off because of graphics. Most importantly, I needed a console that could play my old games. Thats the main reason I chose the ps3 i.e to play OLD games and some new ones.

 



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Mirson on 18 July 2008
facher83 said:
Pristine20 said:
allthehoneys said:

 

 

What's ironic here is that very few people ON THIS FORUM debate which console is more fun (actually, it doesn't happen as frequent as most, really).  It's a bait post.  People are used to it here.

The reply given to you by allthehoneys is very legitament.  Re-read the line "FFS, do you go around asking everyone you meet who says they're having fun to justify why it's fun for them and not for you?"

 

Prinstine20, I'm not about to claim Xbox and PS are no fun.  I have both older ones (don't see the need to get the new ones).  I enjoy Wii for many reasons.  Asking for reasons as to why 29 million owners need to justify their high attachment rate (more games are sold for Wii than other consoles per unit).  It's like complaining that the DS is too gimicky, or the games are too cutesie compared to the PSP.  It's a pointless argument.

 

Asking everyone to redefine or justify their term of fun, or use it less attached to "Wii" (since going against the grain and claiming it's not) is grounds to get slammed, honestly.  It's much easier to apprecaite a Wii if you owned a NES or SNES, or a gameboy, or even SegaG and Atari.

 

It's synonymous with "fun" because I've played it with an 86 year old grandma of mine, and a 3 year old cousin at the same time.  Try that on a PS3.

 

 No. I don't like the idea of playing video games (Xbox 360 or PS3) with my grandma and a 3 year old.



Pristine20 on 18 July 2008
facher83 said:
Pristine20 said:
allthehoneys said:

What's so fun about the [insert your favorite console here]?

Seriously, if you want to be a schmuck please continue asking stupid questions. You even address the answer in your post. Just because you grow tired of something or don't find it enjoyable doesn't make it so for the vast majority of others. FFS, do you go around asking everyone you meet who says they're having fun to justify why it's fun for them and not for you?

 

If the question was so stupid, why did you bother answering it? A stupid answer to a stupid quetion, makes for a tie.

I asked the question because the wii has become a synonym for "fun" in gaming lexicon so someone had to clarify things. The point of the post is that everyone's console is "fun" to them so the wii should learn to share the term but you couldn't read between the lines...thats your own shortcoming.

 

 

What's ironic here is that very few people ON THIS FORUM debate which console is more fun (actually, it doesn't happen as frequent as most, really).  It's a bait post.  People are used to it here.

The reply given to you by allthehoneys is very legitament.  Re-read the line "FFS, do you go around asking everyone you meet who says they're having fun to justify why it's fun for them and not for you?"

 

Prinstine20, I'm not about to claim Xbox and PS are no fun.  I have both older ones (don't see the need to get the new ones).  I enjoy Wii for many reasons.  Asking for reasons as to why 29 million owners need to justify their high attachment rate (more games are sold for Wii than other consoles per unit).  It's like complaining that the DS is too gimicky, or the games are too cutesie compared to the PSP.  It's a pointless argument.

 

Asking everyone to redefine or justify their term of fun, or use it less attached to "Wii" (since going against the grain and claiming it's not) is grounds to get slammed, honestly.  It's much easier to apprecaite a Wii if you owned a NES or SNES, or a gameboy, or even SegaG and Atari.

 

It's synonymous with "fun" because I've played it with an 86 year old grandma of mine, and a 3 year old cousin at the same time.  Try that on a PS3.

Problem is, I'd rather play my games alone with friends but definitely not with my grandma? I'm not asking for justification on why the wii is fun. I'm arguing that all consoles are "fun" since their owners "enjoy" playing them. Doesn't fun= enjoyment?

 



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

Naum on 18 July 2008
Pristine20 said:
facher83 said:
So yeah. Reading the OP, seems like another bait post.

It's simple, really. A lot of the Wii users are "gamers" which stopped playing and buying Video Games past the SNES/Sega era due to the more recent decade of fluffing the gaming market. There are also a lot of current gen gamers, newer ones, that enjoy it as well.

To put it simply, "fun" to far too many people willing to complain about Wii's image is simple a matter of "fun" on Wii not being "cool" enough.


Pick up RE4: Wii edition if you haven't played it before. It's actually very Wii-ized with the controlling.

If you like Baseball, pick up MLB Power Pros (granted, it's also on PS2, but who doesn't make cross-platform games these days? It looks better, anyway). Power Pros is quite an insane game. It's an incredible RPG in terms of stats and upgrading.

Mario Kart is really a game that will stick around for years. I'm sorry, but it was quite fun when my room mates and I (all about 23-24 years old) played a team match through 48 (?) tracks in one sitting.... at the same time seeing how many beers we could chug. That was fun.

Smash Bros. is the same. It will last a long time. You pick it up here and there, and it will pay more for itself in the long run.

Check out "The Conduit" in development.

Square has already landed XBox with their usually PS exclusive title, FF. You can bet Wii will land more games from the giant (more original) as time progresses.

I don't remember if Force Unleashed will have any Wii movement on it... but there is a Star Wars lightsaber dueling game in production.

I don't know, I could go on. Infact, most of us read on the enhanced Wiimote feature coming soon... that will undoubtedly land a bomb shell for FPS games. No cutesie Mii's landing there.

Don't you worry though. Microsoft has already announced and shown how they will get their own avatars on. Gonna call their cutesie little Sim-looking people a reason to degrade the whole system? I think not.

You totally missed the point. i was just trying to point out that some people (like myself) have "fun" with consoles other than the wii.

 

Well then you can understand why "some"( millions probably) of us can have fun with the Wii.

 

Lets just say that this topic was nothing more then flamebait... you know it and we know it.

 



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Pristine20 on 18 July 2008
allthehoneys said:
Pristine20 said:
allthehoneys said:

What's so fun about the [insert your favorite console here]?

Seriously, if you want to be a schmuck please continue asking stupid questions. You even address the answer in your post. Just because you grow tired of something or don't find it enjoyable doesn't make it so for the vast majority of others.  FFS, do you go around asking everyone you meet who says they're having fun to justify why it's fun for them and not for you?

 

 If the question was so stupid, why did you bother answering it? A stupid answer to a stupid question, makes for a tie.

I asked the question because the wii has become a synonym for "fun" in gaming lexicon so someone had to clarify things. The point of the post is that everyone's console is "fun" to them so the wii should learn to share the term but you couldn't read between the lines...thats your own shortcoming.

 

Do you see an answer to his question anywhere in my post?  If you do, you're seeing things.

 

The point is you shouldn't have bothered to post in a discussion you consider "stupid"

 



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

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11ht11 on 18 July 2008

everything is fun about the wii!



Pristine20 on 18 July 2008
Soriku said:
Did you read my response? =/

 

 I have many respones to reply to but won't be back for like two hours. I probably missed your response. I always check through my threads. I'll do so again in about 2 hours!



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

appolose on 18 July 2008
Pristine20 said:
Kasz216 said:
 

The problem there is that MOST of the better RPGs out there aren't the cutting edge ones. Games like your Disgea's and Suikodens didn't use complicated things. FF6... etc.

To me the Wii is fun for a couple reasons.

1) It offers a real evolution compared to the other two cosnoles. Since the PS1 games have basically been the same, there hasn't been much change. The Wii offers a lot of crazy possibilties for new genres of games.

2) The PS3 and 360 have artifical standards for graphics... and it seems like a large number of games are putting more and more of their budgets on the graphical designers, which to me... is the least important aspect of gaming.

I really wouldn't care if a game had PS1 graphics or PS3 graphics so long as it's fun. If the money could of gone to a longer and more fun game, it seems like a waste. Rather then making sure a characters hair is modeled right or texture mapping. I'd perfer that the RPG i'm playing has more length and more items.

Not that there is anything wrong with the PS3 or 360. I still plan to get both... but to me... the games that interest me on it... are basically the very few ones that are doing stuff new... or doing stuff exceptionally well. While nearly every game on the Wii is a new expierence. (that isn't a halfass port.)

Something like... borderlands and it's procedural weapons generation interests me dozens of times more then like Killzone 2.

I've played hundreds of PS1 and PS2 games.  I'm lookin for that next step.

I wasn't saying I got a ps3 because of graphics if thats whats spurned your post. I'm playing through LOD (ps1) right now. It's miles away from being a graphical powerhouse. The wii didn't turn me off because of graphics. Most importantly, I needed a console that could play my old games. Thats the main reason I chose the ps3 i.e to play OLD games and some new ones.

 

Although, the Wii can, of course, play all Cube games and is constantly getting much older games made available for download.   Although maybe that's beside your point .  However, there is that element to be considered when analyzing the fun levels of the Wii.

 



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allthehoneys on 18 July 2008
Pristine20 said:
allthehoneys said:
Pristine20 said:
allthehoneys said:

What's so fun about the [insert your favorite console here]?

Seriously, if you want to be a schmuck please continue asking stupid questions. You even address the answer in your post. Just because you grow tired of something or don't find it enjoyable doesn't make it so for the vast majority of others.  FFS, do you go around asking everyone you meet who says they're having fun to justify why it's fun for them and not for you?

 

 If the question was so stupid, why did you bother answering it? A stupid answer to a stupid question, makes for a tie.

I asked the question because the wii has become a synonym for "fun" in gaming lexicon so someone had to clarify things. The point of the post is that everyone's console is "fun" to them so the wii should learn to share the term but you couldn't read between the lines...thats your own shortcoming.

 

Do you see an answer to his question anywhere in my post?  If you do, you're seeing things.

 

The point is you shouldn't have bothered to post in a discussion you consider "stupid"

 

It's a forum.  Forums are a place for discussion.  I'll post whenever and whereever I feel like it, even if it is only to criticize the premise of a particular thread.

 



mhsillen on 18 July 2008

I own a Wii and I never play it, XBox 360 and PC (even PS3 if I owned one) are just much more appealing to my gaming tastes.

It is "fun" for casual gamers and a younger audience.  Dont expect Nintendo to have the same success with a similar console in the future.  Many "casual gamers" I know who bought a Wii lose interest with it over time, so they wont rush out and pick up a Wii 2 for themselves next generation.  The younger audience will always be there, though, as will Nintendo fans.

I like to compare the original Nintendo with Wii, it was a huge fad sucess when the gaming industry was floundering, but Super Nintendo, N64, and Gamecube showed a continued decline in sales as past Nintendo customers either went elsewhere (Playstation, XBox, PC) or simply didnt participate in later generations.

This is such a condescending post in so many ways, and so wrong.  I have been gaming since 1986 when I bought an NES. I am 48 years old.  I like RPG's and FPS and adventure and sports games. I have a Wii and ps2 and gamecube games. If you don't like the wii then sell the damn thing.  As for the wii being just for casuals and young ones: I am not casual or young but I actually enjoy playing my wii.

 

As for the nes being a fad that is such a brainless comment considering it saved the industry so that the systems today can enjoy success.  I I can't type any more this is such a brainless thread.