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Tigawoods on 16 July 2008
Gazz said:
kirby007 said:
errr.... did they sell their stock? otherwise they made NOTHING

 

So value of your company and it's assets doesn't increase when your stocks go up? Quick, somebody inform the entire economic community, we have a breaktrough in economics from professor Kirby.

 

 He is right to a degree. They have nothing concrete until they have cashed out. For all we know Square will implode tomorrow and then it will be worth nothing. But you are right the value of the company does go up with the stock but its not set in stone as it changes frequently. And if it does great but it's to be taken with a grain of salt. Hell the DOW was over 13k less than a month ago and now look; if it wasn't for the surge today it would be below 11k. Does this stock me much...no As it happens more often than you might think. An example is the Blue Ray, DRM deal previously stated. TBH this is a pretty sry attempt at damage control as well as your jab at Kirby.



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Fanatical111 on 16 July 2008

ummmm....who really cares? Do you guys work for Sony? Does it may you feel better about the whole FF thing?

*shakes his head*



noslodecoy on 16 July 2008

Well if we're using that logic, Sony made up money they "lost" with SE over the last few months. But that's not logical. The reason Sony has money in their stock is not so that they can make money off them. Otherwise they'd have sold it already. The reason they have money in their stock is because they have an interest in the company. They can attempt to sway the company in the direction they want it to go and to know where it is going. SE did not make any money off the deal. They didn't sell the stock.

Also, it's investors who upped the stock.

 

Edit: Also, yes, they did not make any money.  They could however borrow against the stock, but they're not going to do that.



Goddbless on 16 July 2008
Tigawoods said:
Gazz said:
kirby007 said:
errr.... did they sell their stock? otherwise they made NOTHING

 

So value of your company and it's assets doesn't increase when your stocks go up? Quick, somebody inform the entire economic community, we have a breaktrough in economics from professor Kirby.

 

He is right to a degree. They have nothing concrete until they have cashed out. For all we know Square will implode tomorrow and then it will be worth nothing. But you are right the value of the company does go up with the stock but its not set in stone as it changes frequently. And if it does great but it's to be taken with a grain of salt. Hell the DOW was over 13k less than a month ago and now look; if it wasn't for the surge today it would be below 11k. Does this stock me much...no As it happens more often than you might think. An example is the Blue Ray, DRM deal previously stated. TBH this is a pretty sry attempt at damage control as well as your jab at Kirby.

This thread fails confirmed!

 



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headshot91 on 16 July 2008

oh i didnt realise versus was still exclusive... I gess its not as good as ff13 tho?



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Leetgeek on 16 July 2008
Gazz said:

As many, if not all of you know Sony owns a small but substantial stake in Square Enix, 8.9% to be exact*. In a ironic twist of events they saw their stock value rise with 5.22%** today to 20.16 € and the fact that one of 2 FF13 (versus is still PS3 exclusive) games will go multiplatform to the competition provided that. I finbd it extremely funny that Sony seems to profit from the 360 fanboys who are indirectly fueling the competition.

* http://www.square-enix.com/jp/ir/e/stock/stockholder/

** http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/q?d=t&s=9684&m=BE

 

Either this is just a stroke of luck for Sony or a brilliant marketing plan in which they use their influence to promote the PS3 version as superiour and Blu ray as a nessecity. As the second biggest shareholder in the company they certainly carry enough weight. Shareholders (1 and 2 are the same) above Sony are both Enix for those who do not know.

 

One thing is for sure, 360 fanboys (like the ones to be found here) made Sony a whole lot richer today. Sony thanks you for that

 

Edit: wtf is up with the letters?

 

Edit 2: for the people that don't get it. Stock value of companys you own are being counted in the value of the mother company (Sony in this case). Stock value increases of companys in which Sony has a share are part of profit. Nice tax trick if it didn't though.

 

That's a great point. Poeple are going to look at the ammount of disks on the 360 version and suddenly the blurays lareger capacity will be front and center for all to see not just hidden away in the background.



Tbone on 16 July 2008

Lol if they made profit.



 

whatever on 16 July 2008
disolitude said:
Gazz said:
No, I said that stock value of a company that is partially owned by Sony sky rocketed by announcing FF13 on their competitors console. The 360 just made Sony richer.

 

True...but Sony just made 360 better console since 9% of a Sony owned company announced they will release the biggest 2009 game on an xbox 360.

Both parties win?

Some really wishful thinking there.  2009 for Japan maybe.



NiKKoM on 16 July 2008
Kasz216 said:
Gazz said:

As many, if not all of you know Sony owns a small but substantial stake in Square Enix, 8.9% to be exact*. In a ironic twist of events they saw their stock value rise with 5.22%** today to 20.16 € and the fact that one of 2 FF13 (versus is still PS3 exclusive) games will go multiplatform to the competition provided that. I finbd it extremely funny that Sony seems to profit from the 360 fanboys who are indirectly fueling the competition.

* http://www.square-enix.com/jp/ir/e/stock/stockholder/

** http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/q?d=t&s=9684&m=BE

 

Either this is just a stroke of luck for Sony or a brilliant marketing plan in which they use their influence to promote the PS3 version as superiour and Blu ray as a nessecity. As the second biggest shareholder in the company they certainly carry enough weight. Shareholders (1 and 2 are the same) above Sony are both Enix for those who do not know.

 

One thing is for sure, 360 fanboys (like the ones to be found here) made Sony a whole lot richer today. Sony thanks you for that

 

Edit: wtf is up with the letters?

Eh Microsoft benefits off of every blu-ray disc sold due to winning the DRM bid.

So when PS3 won the format war... it made Microsoft a lot more richer.

Blu-ray DRMs probably are worth more then the one time minor stock gain.

I wouldn't think about it too hard.

 

 

No they didn't.. Sony is in the same DRM consortium.. they actually lost a lot of future profits..  they lost the codecs war... if HD-DVD had won Microsoft would have earned a lot more because of the codec they developed for HD movies..



 

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whatever on 16 July 2008
NiKKoM said:
Kasz216 said:
Gazz said:

As many, if not all of you know Sony owns a small but substantial stake in Square Enix, 8.9% to be exact*. In a ironic twist of events they saw their stock value rise with 5.22%** today to 20.16 € and the fact that one of 2 FF13 (versus is still PS3 exclusive) games will go multiplatform to the competition provided that. I finbd it extremely funny that Sony seems to profit from the 360 fanboys who are indirectly fueling the competition.

* http://www.square-enix.com/jp/ir/e/stock/stockholder/

** http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/q?d=t&s=9684&m=BE

 

Either this is just a stroke of luck for Sony or a brilliant marketing plan in which they use their influence to promote the PS3 version as superiour and Blu ray as a nessecity. As the second biggest shareholder in the company they certainly carry enough weight. Shareholders (1 and 2 are the same) above Sony are both Enix for those who do not know.

 

One thing is for sure, 360 fanboys (like the ones to be found here) made Sony a whole lot richer today. Sony thanks you for that

 

Edit: wtf is up with the letters?

Eh Microsoft benefits off of every blu-ray disc sold due to winning the DRM bid.

So when PS3 won the format war... it made Microsoft a lot more richer.

Blu-ray DRMs probably are worth more then the one time minor stock gain.

I wouldn't think about it too hard.

 

 

No they didn't.. Sony is in the same DRM consortium.. they actually lost a lot of future profits..  they lost the codecs war... if HD-DVD had won Microsoft would have earned a lot more because of the codec they developed for HD movies..

That's not completely true as some Blu-ray disks also use VC-1.  However, MPEG-4 is now becoming the standard on BR, so yes, M$ won't be in a good position going forward.