Wow. It's like you don't even care about playing games.

this could have great or bad effects though. Sure doing it this gen will make them tons of money, but by going all casual they will lose alot of gamers. I know alot of people who dislike the wii because of its casualness and have been hardcore nintendo since the begining.

If nintendo loses alot of its fans, and do not catch the casual next gen....where do they go?

It's very sad to see, Nintendo, once the developer of only SERIOUS games, now does stuff just to sell in the "Unscathed territory" - casuals, abandoning its very loyal fans. I hope I won't see this stuff from Sony in the next generation.

First of all only hardcore gamers follow E3 so i am happy Sony didn't showed casual stuff.

Shamus -- Nintendo was only 83% casual.
You did not lilst RR TV Party (casual) or CoD: WaW (hardcore).

Mike from Morgantown

Sony could use casual projects, but not as "95% of what you have on your console" like Nintendo. Totally sad to see what has become of Nintendo, is it the same company that supported the SNES ? no.

Umm, everything Nintendo showed at there conference was a game.  Sorry, but you don't get to redefine the term just because you don't like them.

Congratulations, my good man: in only two lines, you've managed to be more wrong than an unsupervised Michael Jackson at an orphanage. Galaxy, Brawl, Kart, Metroid, Fire Emblem, and so many more, all released in the past year...Yeah, they're walking away from their loyal fans alright (a category which I can only assume does not include you, as you seem to be paying them zero attention!). And who, precisely, defines what a "serious game" is? (Hint: not you.) This is the same company that came out with the decidely non-traditional Mario Paint in the early 90's, the company which released a game designed to teach you keyboarding on the SNES. Hell, this is a company that made a fat Italian plumber eat mushrooms and fight a fire-breathing dragon, or go up against a giant monkey, the company which slapped an elf in a mini-skirt and had him fight a giant pig, a company which made an entire game based on one man's gardening hobby. Serious games? Perish the thought, lad; it'd make Nintendo into a company as boring as Ubisoft.

Oh, and welcome to the forums.

@Shameless: If that's the definition of a game, then I suppose I'm none too interested in playing them. How fortunate for me that it's not, eh?

CrazzyMan said: will provide some form of "new gaming experience", Oh, and you forgot SW:Clone wars + CoD. =) But overall, will the hardcore gamer satisfied with these 2? I doubt. =) I feel sorry for Nintendo fans.. =) Oh, mad world should be ardcore one.) And there Tales of Symphonia+FF4. But yeah, overall not much hardcore games. BUT, Nintendo don`t have other option, it can`t stand against Sony/M$ - GC proved that, so it doing money from casuals. =)

Wow how can someone simply be so ignorant in one post haha.  Well take your Killzone 2.  If ya like black and white shooters there ya go find with me.  Now black and white with artistic style like MadWorld is good.

And don't feel bad for Nintenod fans, because most of them probably don't even care haha.

Couldn't stand against them.  Haha GC did stand against them, its just they the PS2 to fight against jsut like N64 vs PS1.  PS1 and PS2 catered towards the mainstream and GC and N64 didn't.  This time Nintendo changed that up and Sony went back.  If your a sony fanboy, which apparnetly you are, then I wouldn't use that against anyone because you'll only end up a hypocrite. 

Now I suggest you go play your stereotypical shooters and enjoy them instead of arguing with people you know you can't stand with.