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I still want proof that Motorstorm has sold( not shipped) 500k units in Europe. And your missing the point. It can sell well, but I didn´t moved systems. And thats what eveyrone was claiming it will do.



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About John Lucas and his continual reference to MGS not being on the ps3, I'll say I think he often has good points but when he goes into prediction mode he tends to go over board. What I do think is entirely realistic for MGS is that it will follow Gundam Musou's example. It will launch exclusive in Japan, and then launch on the ps3 and 360 in America and Europe. There is no reason for them to miss out on that big of a userbase, and by Sony's own ommision it's easier to port a game from the ps3 to the 360 then visa-versa. So I expect that to happen. What MS needs to do is convince these developers to port these games over for Japan, until they do MS won't get that market. Honestly if I was a Japanese developer I'd have little motivation to create content for anything other then the DS. Mark my words here, Dragon Quest 9 Is going to rock Japan, it's going to prove the even big franchises can successfully move to the handheld, and won't be considered inferior. It'll end up having a much cheaper budget then FF XIII and making way way more money. At that point I think Square will have no choice but to put FF XIV on the DS as well. Square is already loading tons of support for the DS, and I think that will prove to spill over to the Wii as well. In fact in all the factors being discussed as potential destroyers for the ps3, I think the DS is possibly the biggest.



HappySqurriel said:

Gundam Musou, Virtual Fighter 5, Motorstorm and now Ninja Gaiden Sigma were all supposed to lead to PS3 dominance.

You really don't get it, do you? That's that other game, not those! 



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ckmlb said:
johnlucas said:
 

NOW I think you understand the meaning of my little foretellings.

Controversy!! Metal Gear Solid 4 will NOT go the Playstation 3

http://www.popzart.com/?page=view&topic=267

 

Kojima Ain't Feeling HD

http://www.popzart.com/?page=view&topic=345

 

Oh, and to explain what is happening on the charts week after week:

The WiiDS Phenomenon

http://www.popzart.com/?page=view&topic=514

 

Stay tuned. You ain't seen nothing yet.

John Lucas


That is ridiculous, predicting it comes out on both 360 and PS3 is one thing, but predicting it doesn't come out on PS3 is plain ridiculous.

I guess they just wasted all that money into development and they're never gonna relase it huh?

Your source (single source for all 3 links) for the info is really legitimate...

You are totally wrong. And I'll make a bet with you: if MGS 4 doesn't come to PS3 I will stop posting on this site and if it does then you stop.

Are you up for it?


 I just realized John wrote all those articles. I thought the last time I saw that MGS article it was by someone else. That's funny.



I don't see him standing up for his prediction that MGS 4 will not come out on PS3.

The main FF series will remain console, hand helds will get spinoffs. 



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ssj12 said:
HappySqurriel said:
Christopher_G2 said:

Don't worry. I don't think anyone on these boards is more of an idiot than John Lucas. To him it's critical the PS3 fails so he has a good life.



So far he has been far more accurate than most PS3 fans ...

Gundam Musou, Virtual Fighter 5, Motorstorm and now Ninja Gaiden Sigma were all supposed to lead to PS3 dominance. In a couple of weeks I'll be able to add Everybody's Golf 5 to that list.


Motorstorm is nearing 1 million worldwide, he was not correct. The site he posted is so obviously bs. I never even heard of the site till now let alone the article sounds BS in every way. Actually he is the one who wrote it. The site is obviously BS.


 But Motorstorm was supposed to be the beginning of the PS3 domination!  How many times did we hear "The domination begins in March" from Sony fanboys?  Now it's July?  What happens when the domination gets delayed again?  August?  September?  2010?

"I predict that in 2010, PS3 will sell 100 billion units and totally destroy Nintendo and Microsoft, rape their women,kill their firstborn children and render their men impotent."

See, I can make stupid predictions too.  That doesn't make them right. 



Here are the Media Create numbers


1. DS Medjikara Training - DS - 63.439 - (220.810)
2. Trusty Bell - Xbox 360 - 49.334 - (49.334)
3. Ninja Gaiden Sigma - PS3 - 46.307 - (46.307)
4. Wii Sports - Wii - 34.223 - (1.721.611)
5. Programme d'Entraînement Cérébral Avancé du Dr Kawashima : quel âge a votre cerveau ? - DS - 24.901 - (4.374.525)
6. Wii Play - Wii - 22.161 - (1.399.060)
7. New Super Mario Bros. - DS - 19.297 - (4.539.176)
8. Oendan 2 - DS - 16.879 - (156.867)
9. More English Training - DS - 15.855 - (288.570)
10. Programme d'Entraînement Cérébral du Dr Kawashima : quel âge a votre cerveau ? - DS - 15.405 - (3.467.764)


Well apparently both Trusty Bell and NGS have sold a little better than 40K .Remains to be seen if those sales will push hardware at all .For Trusty Bell is a good number ,after all Blue Dragon did 80K the first week and it was a way bigger game than Trusty Bell .For NGS its a bit worse ,although this being a remake wouldnt sell so well as some were expecting .I expect Folklore next week to do better for example .



ckmlb said:

I don't see him standing up for his prediction that MGS 4 will not come out on PS3.

The main FF series will remain console, hand helds will get spinoffs. 


As for the MGS4 I agree that is a very dum prediction which has 0 chance of being right. It is very likely it will appear ont he 360 though. At this point he can't run and hide from his prediction it is all over the board and he can not even explain his way out even if it does lose exclusivity or get delayed.

 

As for the FF series never say never. 2 years ago if someone told you DQ was going handheld you would get the same reaction as everyone gives John Lucas about his MGS 4 prediction (except that no previous footage of any DQ sequel was shown prior to the shock announcement).

Another thing to remember and I know it is difficult for a lot of people to remember but FF4 was shown at was then the CES before E3 came about for the N64(than Ultra64) People drooled allover the footage than but that project was scrapped and FF7 was born for the PS1.

 You can never be fully certain until it is a certain point in its dev stage(which MGS4 is well beyond). It could very well be that FF 14 would end up on the DS however I would place it more likely to be on the Wii provided of course the PS3 does not make a resounding comeback in Japan which I see as more and more likely everyday.

 Lastly It appears to me that SE is changing its game models. It appears that FF games are going to be a universe for its own series as can be told by the 10 versions of 13 or the 2 versions of 12 or  the 6 versions of 7(arbitrary numbers that i pulled from my head quickly as an estimate). So ti may even be unlikely to see 14 for a while and spinoffs will reign over the next few years or maybe this generation



Wait........Everyone isn't talking about the most important thing.

Oblivion to possibly outsell TB on it's first week on 360? What is up with that? Does that mean that Shinobi is predicting 40 to 50k for it's first week? That'd be absolutely insane. I figured that it *might* get 20k over it's lifetime.



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.

redspear said:
ckmlb said:

I don't see him standing up for his prediction that MGS 4 will not come out on PS3.

The main FF series will remain console, hand helds will get spinoffs.


As for the MGS4 I agree that is a very dum prediction which has 0 chance of being right. It is very likely it will appear ont he 360 though. At this point he can't run and hide from his prediction it is all over the board and he can not even explain his way out even if it does lose exclusivity or get delayed.

 

As for the FF series never say never. 2 years ago if someone told you DQ was going handheld you would get the same reaction as everyone gives John Lucas about his MGS 4 prediction (except that no previous footage of any DQ sequel was shown prior to the shock announcement).

Another thing to remember and I know it is difficult for a lot of people to remember but FF4 was shown at was then the CES before E3 came about for the N64(than Ultra64) People drooled allover the footage than but that project was scrapped and FF7 was born for the PS1.

You can never be fully certain until it is a certain point in its dev stage(which MGS4 is well beyond). It could very well be that FF 14 would end up on the DS however I would place it more likely to be on the Wii provided of course the PS3 does not make a resounding comeback in Japan which I see as more and more likely everyday.

Lastly It appears to me that SE is changing its game models. It appears that FF games are going to be a universe for its own series as can be told by the 10 versions of 13 or the 2 versions of 12 or the 6 versions of 7(arbitrary numbers that i pulled from my head quickly as an estimate). So ti may even be unlikely to see 14 for a while and spinoffs will reign over the next few years or maybe this generation


 DQ is for Japan mainly where people care less about high graphics than in the west. I still predict FF main series consoles forever and spinoffs on hand helds.



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