Except the rumble pack

1) Was implemented early in the system's life

2) Was an add-on for the base controller, NOT an entirely new controller.

Surely you recognize that adding a vibration feature on some games with the controller we're already using is a much simpler issue -- both for the consumer and for the developer -- than developing for or buying an entirely new controller? Again, look at the cases where entirely new controllers were added:

Super Scope
DDR Pad
Eye Toy
SNES Mouse

All of these were moderately successfull (a couple of strong titles that featured their use), but none was actually implemented into more than, say, 5-10 percent of the system's games, and none was picked up by more than 5-10 percent of the people owning their respective systems. You simply cannot introduce a new controller mid stream and have it adopted en masse by developers or consumers. 

But yeah, I totally agree next generation is possible.  

By remote I meant the way you hold it. As for the PS3 not selling there are really only two. The main being the psrice, and the second being the game selection.  Also, the Wii mote bing superior to the PS3 remote is a matter of opinion for sure. As is mine for the PS3 remote being perfect. I cant stand the Wii mote. Its the reason I dont play the Wii anymore. There GC controller was much better

 Mrstickball there is one thing that you forgot: price. Nintendo usually deliver cheaper hardware and acessories than others. GC controller is 20, PS2 25, Xbox 30. This generation we have SIXAXIS  for 50, Wiimote 40 + nunchuk 20 and Xbo360 wireless for 60. Do you really think M$ can add all Wiimote features and sell it for less than 100 bucks? Sony would have even more trouble, first SIXAXIS, then SIXAXIS with rumble and them SIXAXIS 3 with rumble and better accuracy. That wont help with their customer satisfaction problems. As for M$ they would lose the advantage on the price they have over Sony. What is the point of telling us their controllers are better than Nintendo and have more features if they are double the price? Do not forget that Nintendo always had a great advantage in quality and reliability of their products, just because the competition want to follow them does not mean they can.

Only 2 reasons that the PS3 is not selling? Really?

1. Price
2. Game selection
3. Not HDTV ready out of the box, must purchase proper cables
4. $600, no game included
5. Huge
6. Consumes a lot of power
7. Generates a lot of heat
8. No rumble
9. Online presentation not as robust as Live
10. No games that outshines Xbox360 games, graphicswise

No, Wiimote being superior is not an opinion. It is fact:

Feature: PS3/WII 

Analog Stick: Yes/Yes
D-Pad: Yes/Yes
Dual Analog Stick: Yes/No
Rumble: No/Yes
Speaker: No/Yes
Built in memory: No/Yes
Replacable batteries: No/Yes
On-screen pointer: No/Yes
3D motion capture: No/Yes
Dual hand 3D motion capture: No/Yes

The SIXAXIS is simply outclassed by the Wiimote.

Dude that is such a fanboy 'fact' list.

Personally I prefer the Wii Remote / Nunchuk option but it's an OPINION that it is superior, some people will prefer to use the PS3 controller, some people will prefer to use the Wii Remote and Nunchuk, some small technical features in the Wii Remote don't make it 'superior' for gaming, they just make it 'superior' technically.

This also applies to the PS3, just because it has more technical prowess doesn't mean that it is by default 'superior' to the Wii for gaming, it's just 'superior' technically and that is what the poster that you quoted was saying.

Fanboy fact list? Are those not facts? If not, then I would like you to disprove it.

I see lists and lists of why the Wii is 2 GCs duct taped together. That there are many games that cannot be made on the Wii. That the PS3 and 360 are graphically superior. I am trying to give the Wiimore the credit it deserves. It's true that the PS3 and 360 are much more powerful than the Wii and have more capabilites. I find it funny that Sony fanboys can't give credit where credit is due, it's even funnier when they say the PS3 controller has better motion controls. The Wiimote is of superior design and functionality than that of Sony's 13 year old design.

The PS3 controller has remained unchanged from the last two generations, apart from making it wireless, adding an irreplacable battery, removing rumble and adding half-assed tilt functionality. I think that it the PS3 contoller is worse that the PS2 controller, and worse than the Logitech PS2 wireless controller. If fanboys continue to argue that the Wii's power is last gen, then I will argue that their controller is from 2 generations ago.

Sony can't change their controller due to the massive uproar that would happen, don't you remember when the first pics of the PS3 came out and it had the different controller, all the fans went crazy and demanded the old controller type. The PS2 controller had much better L2 and R2 buttons, with the new ones your finger slides off of it when playing racing games. The wiimote is a controller that is very odd and confusing to use, i like the other controllers much better. I found that the 360 has by far the best controller this gen, if they could make a better D-pad then all would be good, but i still like the way the PS3 has kept the analog sticks.

Plus the battery in the PS3 controller is amazing, it lasts forever on a charge, and you don't need to buy $5 batteries every month, like you need to with the other controllers.

Analog Stick: Yes/Yes

Only when the Nunchuck is attached and not an important impact IMO.

D-Pad: Yes/Yes

D-Pad is generic and expected, I wonder if a company will release a console controller with NO D-Pad one day... I doubt it, but it might happen, again neglegable because they both do it.

Dual Analog Stick: Yes/No

Dual Analog stick is slightly outweight by Single Analogue and On-screen pointer in my opinion but in terms of 'technical superiority' i think the Dual Analogue sick can do anything the On-Screen Pointer can do... the On-Screen Pointer just does it better in SOME situations... whether it works for FPS or not yet we don't know.

Rumble: No/Yes

This is a point of technical superiority but honestly it isn't that big a deal, yes it's a yes no answer but how much weight does this ad to the benefits of the Wii Remote and Nunchuk?

Speaker: No/Yes

Again something the PS3 controller is missing all together, but does it ad that much to the game? I like it... but I don't know if it's all hail superioty type of thing... it just helps to differential.

Built in memory: No/Yes

What does this do to help game-play or gaming? Nothing, yes it has it for Mii's which is a cool addition, but overall not that big a deal in the grand scheme of things.

Replacable batteries: No/Yes

This is a NEGATIVE for the Wii Remote in my opinion... the PS3 controller can be charged over and over again while forking out for batteries every few weeks is EXPENSIVE.

On-screen pointer: No/Yes

Fits into the Dual Analogue Stick with a fair chunk of superiority of this going to the Wii Controller because the pointer system is fantastic... I can't imagine playing Zelda (or games like it with targetting) any other way.

3D motion capture: No/Yes

What BS is this? The PS3 SIXAXIS has virtually the same technical abilities as a single Wii Remote it's just shaped differently... it can still capture 3D motions... wtf?

Dual hand 3D motion capture: No/Yes

A half positive for the Wii Remote / Nunchuk option, despite the fact that you need to attach an extra accessory the motion detection in the Nunchuk is crappy.


There you go, while I haven't necassarily said anything ISN'T fact, all of the features you pointed out aren't as simple as yes no answers and giving one point for yes and 0 points for no... it's all comparative... some things are far more important than others, and the ONLY things that I think makes the Wii Remote a superior controller is the split controllers for comfort and the IR Pointer (that's the clincher) and I don't really disagree with you I just think it's a fanboy list because it's a LIST not insight into each of the features.

I'm not having a go, and i'm not a Sony or 360 fanboy at all, I'm just shedding some light.

 Its still an extra cost and therefore a negative.

LOL @ not buying rechargables. What the hell...