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Forums - Microsoft Discussion - Xbox 360 Million Seller Thread (Analysis, Updates, and Prediction)

Achieved Game LTD Last Wk. Probability Analysis
7/20/08 Project Gotham 4 979,990 7,547 99.5% One of the few gimmes of current releases. Still in the top 50, it'll reach 1m in about a month. It managed the 1m mark in 3 weeks versus my 5wk projection!
The Simpsons Game 902,579 6,928 92.5% Continuing to do very well, and is a near-certainty at 1m.
NB 2k8 859,307 6,457 75.0% Very good chance still. With the X360 Pro pricedrop, it should see slightly renewed sales.
Lego SW2 940,000 ??? 80.0% Holy crap! It moved! Jumped 10k in 3 weeks!
Lego TCS 788,123 6,503 70.0% Like the Simpsons Game, it's been creeping up, and is selling incredibly well each week, despite no one noticing it.
Lost Odyssey 802,901 5,801 60.0% Upgrading Lost Odysseys chances. It is still chugging along. About ready to fall off of the T50, however. 
Burnout Paradise 790,820
Off T50 60.0% Off the top-50, but still creeping up in sales. EA still is releasing content for the game, so it has a good chance of making the 1m mark at Christmas.
Ninja Gaiden 2 699,209 9,366 60.0% Starting to show some kind of legs. Thanks to a slight resurgence in JP, it still has a good (but not great) chance at 1m. It needs to stay above 10k for a month+
Lego: IJ 394,506 13,796 45.0% It's drops haven't been quite as good as the Star Wars series. However, it could hover around 10k for ages.
Battlefield: BC 823,038 23,779 100.0%

Still a lock. 60k this most recent week has it crossing 1m at some point. My projection was Week 16, which looks do-able.

Guitar Hero: Aerosmith 321,651 21,352 15.0% About DOA for it's run at 1m. ~20k this early into it's run is NOT a good sign.
NCAA Football 09 495,932 12,477 65.0%
Soul Calibur IV 746,715 41,117 99.0%
Tales of Vesperia 195,586 62,794 50.0%

 

Initial Predictions.:

Achieved Game First Wk LTD Proj. Chance @ 1m Analysis
Battlefield: BC ~250,000 1.1m 90.0% US and PAL actuals aren't out, but it's seemed to do well for it's first week in PAL Land. BF2:MC did 430k in the US alone, but I think that BC can do well, with the lack of recent FPS games.
Guitar Hero: Aerosmith 200,000 1.25m 95.0% Big question is how they count sales on this one. GH3 has done over 3m on the 360. That's a huge base for idiots to pick up thier Aerosmith game.
Unreal Tournament 3 150,000 ~800k 50.0%

Not a great shot at it. UT3 on PS3 has done 500k LTD, and most X360 FPSes have done twice that of PS3. However, UT3's been out for months. Does this stand a chance? I think it does, but not a good one.

Update: UT3 is DOA in the 1m Run. 150k in 3 weeks won't get it anywhere near 1m. It will be lucky to hit 500k.

NCAA Football 2009 350,000 900k 75.0%

VGC.com sez NCAA 08 did worse than 07. Can that be true? I've always felt that NCAA was superior to Madden. With the larger X360 userbase, it should reach 1m. But anything is possible, I guess.

Soul Calibur 4 200,000 850k 70.0% I am really unsure here. The world needs another major fighter, and SC4 could and should deliver, but VGC has very little data for any SC since SC1 on DC. I think it has a good shot at 1m (probably 70%), but I don't have data t back up that kind of analysis.
Madden 2009 800,000 2.5m+ 100.0% The first true shoe-in. Question is if it could hit 1m first week alone. Madden saw a 500k+ increase on the 360 from 07 to 08. Could we see the same this time around? Could it hit 3m?
Tales of Vespria 175,000 800k 60.0% There's no true data to back up Tales sales history, aside from Symphonia at 1.1m worldwide. That's amazing for a Gamecube RPG, so a 360 version stands a chance, right? Expect huge Japanese sales. Question is how the west buys it: only 170,000 copies of Sonata sold in the US...This will play a huge factor in it's chances.
Too Human 200,000 1m 75.0% The subject of much scrutiny and debate. Looks like a nice, fun ARPG, but has recieved a bit of negative press lately. Despite this, there's still pent up hype and demand for such a game. Has a very good shot at 1m, but I am being very consiverative in light of its "bad" news as of late.
Brothers in Arms: HH 250,000 1m 75.0% A mystery, as VGC has no data for BIA. I would think that, despite it being a WW2 shooter, it stands a good shot at 1m. Nevertheless, it's "yet another shooter".
Mercenaries 2 175,000 900k 70.0% VGC only has PS2 data for Mercs in the US - 620,000. Again, considering the X360 userbase, I think Mercs has a great shot at 1m eventally. I thought that it was a 1m seller on the Xbox, but I haven't seen anything.
Lego Batman 150,000 1m 70.0% Like Lego:IJ and Lego: SW, it's had a good track record on the 360, and Batman is a little bit bigger than IJ, IMO.
Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X 150,000 800k 60.0% Hmm. On one hand it's a Clancy game...On the other, Ace Combat 6 is supposedly at 500,000 between the US and Japan. Air fighter games aren't as popular as they were (atleast from what I've seen), but it *is* Tom Clancy.
Fable 2 500,000 3m 100.0% Xbox 360's 2nd Shoe-in thus far. Not a matter of if, but a matter of 2nd or 3rd week (or 1st, even?). Not a huge Fable fan, but F2 could be the game that F1 was supposed to be, and sales could lead that way too.
Silent Hill: Homecoming 150,000 750k 55.0% A big mystery. There's no data to back up any sort of solid analysis. Yet I thought that SH was a really big series? SH: Origins sold 3x what it did in Japan on the PSP, so I think there's a decent shot at it getting to 1m, but I could be wrong. Only game I have Pre-Ordered ATM.
Fallout 3 350,000 2m+ 100.0% Oblivion did well over 2m, and I don't expect F3 to be any different - even with a day-and-date PS3 version.
NBA 2k9 200,000 900k 70.0% See NBA 2k8 Notes.
Saints Row 2 300,000 1.5m 98.0% SR did very well on the 360 as a surprise hit. I don't see SR2 backing down in the sales department. Again, even with it being multi-plat this time around.
Fifa Soccer 09 200,000 1m 95.0% Fifa 08 sold 1m, so I'd think that it's set a very good precident for the series hitting 1m on the box.
Tom Clancy's Endwar 200,000 900k 75.0% See H.A.W.X. However, this one has more shooting in it. So it stands an even better chance - even if it's an RTS (and Halo Wars could help the genre, too)
Guitar Hero 4 300,000 3m 100.0% See Guitar Hero 3/Aerosmith. Not a matter of if, but how quickly. Even with RB2 out, GH4 will be a 1m seller.
Dead Space 250,000 1m 80.0% Good shot at 1m. Despite being an EA Survival-Horror game, it doe have the advantage of EA's great track record of FPSes on the 360.
Gears of War 2 3m 8m 100.0% Could it hit 1m day 1? Easily, I think.
Left 4 Dead 350,000 1.5m 95.0% Should be in a similar situation to what RSV was when GOW1 came out: smaller week-1 sales than the beast, but will hit 1m. Some of us prefer L4D over GOW2 so...
Tomb Raider: UW 150,000 900k 75.0% Ok. My girlfriend would kill me if I didn't mention this. TR:L hit 700k in the US+PAL, so UW has a great shot since it's debuting much closer to Christmas than Legends did, and Legends (IMO) re-established the series as being somewhat relevant.
Banjo Kazooie 3 300,000 1.5m 90.0% Not a shoe in, but it could wind up doing insane, too. Don't fear for Rare: even Viva Pinata is now well over the 1m mark (remember when VP debuted at 20k? I do!)
Infinite Undiscovery 200,00 800k 40.0% Not the best shot. But it does have the advantage of debuting near Christmas, in a Post-Lost Odyssey, Post-Vespria world, that should be far more excited for JRPGs, it has a small chance of it.

Updated: 7/23/08.



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Nice work mrstickball



+1, have you considered other games like Sacred 2 and other WRPGs? Im curious with the big push it seems this year towards the RPG genre on the Xbox360 that the expected sales for these games will be an indication for the success of the strategy.



Tease.

The 360 library and lineup is unbeatable. Bring it.



Nice work, I kinda agree with these predictions.



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Yes, I considered other RPGs such as Sacred. It's too early to say what Sacred will do. I think there's a chance of it, but it's in the 40-60% area, and with no solid launch date, we don't know who it's going up agains (Fable 2, Fallout 3, or neither).



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Good work. I'm a bit doubtful that Vesperia will go platinum: Japanese 360 owners are voracious, but they're also few, and in the West the Tales series has never been monumental (isn't Symphonia the only one that sold over a million?) The fact that Lost Oddysey hasn't reached that mark makes me especially skeptical (not to mention sad...)

And barring major catastrophe, Call of Duty should make the list, no?



360 has a pretty good lineup of games.



mrstickball, those are very good predictions. You even put first week sales there, impressive. Nice comments too.

And yes, the X360 has the supreme lineup of existing and upcoming games.



Great analysis. I only disagree with two things. PGR2 = 100%, Fable 2= 100% but not in the first 2 or 3 weeks.



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