PS3 VS. X360 multi-plat Graphics Comparison

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halfstrike on 02 July 2008

This thread is actaulyl incredibly ridiculous... the graphics comparison on multi platform console games dont matter becuase the will ALWAYS be the same or only have minor differences in shading or deeper colors. what matters is the exculsive game graphics thats what seperates the systems.... and since PS3 has already produced the most beautiful game in console history and one of the the best graphically of all time including PC...... get where im going with this? so yea . 360 games look great and all.. but they can nefver get as good as a ps3 games, and plz dont embarass youself trying to argue this point becasue its true and you know it. Some reasons being.. blueray has a higher capacity disc than a HD dvd PS3 hardware is better. (more complex and difficult to make games for) but has more possibilites than 360.

P.S PS3 has way mroe graphic capability then the 360 will ever have.

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Fishie on 02 July 2008

makingmusic476 said:

Fishie said:

leo-j said:

FJ-Warez said:In fact killzone2 still lags behind the CGI... go and look for the pics of the CGI and you will see...

No it doesnt, after seeing the "gameplay" in the pre rendered Killzone 2 trailer, the new killzone 2 GDC which is the same level looks much better, and sharper than the CGI.

The character models look better in the pre rendered, but everything else goes to the actual game.

Also here is MGS4:

MAJOR SPOILER: Skip to 0:45 and on, yes its all gameplay you do play in that scene with those visuals.

edit:Its SD quality, looks much better in HD.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RjAgFowTF6I

BULLSHIT, get your eyes checked.

The CGI demo I was shown(which they claimed was all ingame) back in 2k5 ran at 1080P/60fps.

When I played the game some months ago it was 720P/30fps and had NONE of the impact the trailer had over 3 years ago.

Lower quality models, textures, animation, volumetric clouds and explosions replaced by bitmaps etcetera.

It IS impressive what they are doing with the PS3 graphically yes but to claim it surpassed the CGI fest from a few years ago, GET REAL.

That video was only ever released in SD, and screenshots were only released in 1280x720.

It was shown to me in 1080p and we did receive full res assets.

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Deneidez on 02 July 2008

Uh, amount of bullshots is huge in this thread. Lets see what those games really look like.

Ninja Gaiden Sigma

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/182/reviews/935677_20070702_screen008.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/182/reviews/935677_20070702_screen003.jpg

Ninja Gaiden II

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2008/154/reviews/943273_20080603_screen004.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2008/154/reviews/943273_20080603_screen024.jpg

Uncharted

http://www.v2.fi/images/games/screenshots/333/full3.jpg

http://www.v2.fi/images/games/screenshots/333/full4.jpg

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Oh and next thing there will be 'screenshots' directly from TV with digital cameras. I am sure its better that I start it before you do.

Lets check walls textures, Uncharted goes first

And then comes the contender! Perfect Dark Zero!

Next, leaves in allmighty, powerful and colorful uncharted

Same with Perfect Dark Zero again,

And the last one is forest itself, Uncharted goes first,

And the special guest kameo.

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And now is your turn to discuss about those pictures. (I guess its time for 'those are fake' flood.)

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Squilliam said:

makingmusic476 said:

Squilliam said:
@ everyone. Its ironic that the PS3 fanboys have to prove graphical superiority in their own eyes to win the argument whereas the Xbox360 guys only have to prove graphical parity.

@ making music, thats quite an apples/oranges comparison. Uncharted is rendered at 30fps whilst Ninja gaiden runs at 60fps. The comparison is like taking crysis and benchmarking it one an Nvidia 8800gt and then comparing it to an AMD 4850 running COD 4 at a lower resolution running COD IV at 60fps. Its apples to oranges, at least use the same genre to make a comparison with games running at a similar FPS and with similar art styles. So a Halo 3 vs Killzone 2 comparison is out because of the different lighting system used in Halo 3 and the different rendering resolutions whereas Killzone 2 vs Gears 2 is more apropriate since they both render a similar style at the same resolution and frames per second and they both use a depth of field effect to increase the detail of close in objects.

Since both games look amazing and they both haven't been released yet I think that comparison can wait, no?

NGII is 585p. Uncharted is 720p. That also has its effect on things. And he brought up the Uncharted vs NGII bit first.

@NJ5: Uncharted has the best textures of any ps3 game I have yet played, by a wide margin. I'm not sure what it is, maybe it's the texture streaming system they used, but they are damn detailed. Yes, the ps3 only has 256mb of ram for the GPU, but not all games use it equally. All games probably use all of it, but that doesn't keep some games from looking better (in this case much better) than others. For example, Resistance versus Resistance 2. The first was definitely maxing the ps3's ram, but the second looks much better.

The textures in Uncharted really are amazing. You really have to play the game and and aim at stuff to see how damn good they are:

And the screen I posted above also highlighted the awesome textures. Uncharted's beauty comes from more than just art style.

I think you're both on the wrong track trying to compare the games. Gears of war 1 and RFOM 1 are also good comparisons as they have similar art styles, game styles and they both don't use a depth of field effect. The problem is that they are no longer representative of the quality of each console.

It is true that the PS3s architecture only shines when special care and attention is paid to it. For example, Uncharted uses something like 8 render passes and simply could not be ported as is to the 360. It is so optimized for the PS3. Its not saying that it couldn't be done, its just to draw your attention to the level of optimization going into the game. Furthermore whilst the textures in Uncharted ARE similar, they have also been compared favourably to Crysis but that doesn't moot my previous point that it had a lot of the same textures repeated and thus it isn't as impressive technically as GTAIV which uses a varied texture base.

I have played Uncharted BTW its one of the nicest looking games I have ever played. Its definately one to remember. I have a PS3 btw if you didn't know.

Far Cry 2 is the next best chance to compare the abilities of both systems as its a heavy game and it appears on both systems and it seems to have had a lot of money spent on it with a decent cadre of specialist PS3 coders.

Praise for the ps3? Never saw this one coming.

On point, multiplat games would continue to look better on 360 as long as they're tailor-made for American gamers' taste (which is where the majority of games fall) because the 360 owns in the US.

However, the EU is the region seeing the largest gamer growth so things may change in the future.

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Fishie on 02 July 2008

Rock_on_2008 said:

Squilliam said:
@ rock on, explain PS3 superiority in the context of lower/no AA compared to the Xbox360. Lower RESOLUTION, LOWER FRAME RATES.

Im waiting with baited breath. Really I am.

Proof will set us free.

You mixed them up the PS3 has AA in the games. PS3 has better frame rates than the X360 games. X360 does not use AA it is not technologically advanced enough to use AA. PS3 uses Blu-Ray for rendering and AA to make the graphics look better. X360 just has DVD player that makes graphics look meh.

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Rock_on_2008 on 02 July 2008

Deneidez said:

Uh, amount of bullshots is huge in this thread. Lets see what those games really look like.

Ninja Gaiden Sigma

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/182/reviews/935677_20070702_screen008.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/182/reviews/935677_20070702_screen003.jpg

Ninja Gaiden II

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2008/154/reviews/943273_20080603_screen004.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2008/154/reviews/943273_20080603_screen024.jpg

Uncharted

http://www.v2.fi/images/games/screenshots/333/full3.jpg

http://www.v2.fi/images/games/screenshots/333/full4.jpg

----

Oh and next thing there will be 'screenshots' directly from TV with digital cameras. I am sure its better that I start it before you do.

Lets check walls textures, Uncharted goes first

And then comes the contender! Perfect Dark Zero!

Next, leaves in allmighty, powerful and colorful uncharted

Same with Perfect Dark Zero again,

And the last one is forest itself, Uncharted goes first,

And the special guest kameo.

---

And now is your turn to discuss about those pictures. (I guess its time for 'those are fake' flood.)

The UnCharted screenshots are on a SDTV. The Perfect Dark Zero screenshots are on a HDTV. It is so obvious it has been doctored to make the X360 better than PS3.

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BengaBenga on 02 July 2008

I'd love to see other games for a change. The Uncharted pics are getting boring.

Tip: Gran Turismo 5 Prologue. Absolutely the most beautiful game I've ever played on a console.

But besides that I think that it's quite obvious that both consoles are about equal. Pointing at a little better lightning or wall-textures is really grasping for straws. which is totally ridiculous, since most pics that are posted here look very good.