Actually, he said a lot of things.  All you seem to have said is "I've played all the GT games so I'm right and you're wrong."

I have no idea where you got the idea that online play wouldn't "fit" onto a DVD-9.  It makes no sense at all -- code is small, models/textures/tracks/FMVs are big.  If you were a developer, and you couldn't fit everything onto one DVD, would you cut online multiplayer (a huge feature) or get rid of a few extra Skyline replicas or Integra/Civic replicas?

first of all why should i respond to that?? anyone who has played GT knows that Gt3 had less cars featured than GT2... enough said right there...

Hmm ,yes i know online code is not very big, and I would have sacraficed a few cares or one track to get some sort of online play into the game... Ahh well, the game still amazed regardless.. 
  do any of you even remember that the online portion of the game was pulled right before the release of the game... i know this because i was pissed about it.... then they planned on releasing a add on disc version but that never happened... take that however you wanna take it..

Actually, I believe I am wrong (have it the other way around) - GT4 has 3 times as many cars as GT3.

GT3 had about 150 cars when it came out - there was a bit of an uproar, as GT2 had more cars - but GT3 cars were much better modelled (being a PS2 title), etc.

GT4 upped the number of cars to about 500.

BTW, GT3 easily outsold GT4 - GT3 is considered the best selling game on the PS2 (worldwide).

I also own GT1, GT3 & GT4. GT4 really annoyed me and my mates (horrible menu system, loading times, etc...). One of my mates is a huge revhead (has a RX-7, with custom engine, he put a chip in it - takes it out on the circuit, etc.. ) and we were both SO disappointed when GT4 came out. We ended up playing GT3 instead.

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It was fairly well documented that Polyphony had lots of issues getting the game to run properly online on the PS2. It was going to be the big online killer app - but it never happened. It showed that online on the Xbox was a lot better than on the PS2 (which still supported modem connections).

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BTW, this is getting back to the topic of this thread - that DVD-9 is more than "sufficient" for this generation. When the next GT comes out, Sony will boast about the number of cars in the game - then boast that its only possible on BluRay. It may be true - but its also irrelevant. Its also almost guarenteed that they will online, downloadable content - and that extra cars/tracks will have to be purchased (just like they are now).

When you have the extra space for BluRay - you can always find something to do with it. But its never essential to the core of the game, such that without BluRay - the game becomes impossible to create.

yes i already know that... about GT... im the one who corrected you earlier remember the sad part is someone actually defended that statement.... i just didnt see it necessary to respond to your comment about GT3 when i was 100 percent positive you were wrong...

but getting back to the topic... as games become bigger and better i think developers will be pleased with blu ray... Example GTA IV....

 Pleased, yes, as long as the games sell well.

1. Yes, because porn is hardly important. It's all over the internet for free and cheaper and more varied than any "movie." Sony is not going to care about anything else being on blu-ray. Despite Sony's good intentions, porn is still on blu-ray anyway. Moot point, really. Again, you ignore that Nintendo is hurting gamers with friend codes for the same reason Sony is not helping porn.

2. Piracy protection will go as far as it wants in order to assure the movie companies they are trying. No issue here, especially as far as Sony's morals. Get over the rootkit thing, it does not define Sony. You say Nintendo has transformed since their mistakes, and yet Sony can't admend mistakes? Non-issue. All companies do some things wrong. Nintendo takes measures to prevent piracy as well. I'm not sure many attempts to prevent piracy can be looked at as unethical unless it hurts a consumer in some other way. Even then, it's understandable. Piracy is wrong, not trying to stop it.

3. No, you do not need blu-ray. You do not need HD. You don't need videogames to progress at all. But it's sure nice when they are able to, isn't it? Well, I think so.

4. Yes, you are a hopeless fanboy, at least so far. You are the most negative person on these forums right now. All you do is attack Sony as if they killed your family. I'm really sorry if they did. You should get the police to look into it. "Any argument you can make against Nintendo is purely opinionative, irrelevant or without factual basis." That's such a ridiculous statement. Are you trying to tell me that Nintendo has done nothing to upset videogame players? Really? I would have my Wii by now if that were true. I hope you don't also think Microsoft hasn't done anything unethical. I really dislike a lot of the things Microsoft does but if they gave me a better reaso nto buy a 360 I'd get one. Would you? Are you that against a company, at least Sony, that you will never reconsider anything? Because, honestly, you seem the most set in your beliefs than just about anyone that has ever posted here. I really hope that you don't continue to waste your intelligence on hating so much. Please don't.

No, I am going to buy a Wii, but there are just as many problems with the Wii right now as there are with the PS3. I think the 360 has slightly more problems, but that's my opinion. I try not to let my opinions completely blind me of the truth, though. I wish you'd try harder.

For the people that have questions about the size of the games. You also have to look were we came from, memory was expensive 10 yers ago so making games also included making them small. The GameCube and Xbox both had hardware that could decompress textures on-the-fly with a like 5:1 ratio. And that is nice because it takes longer to read 5 times as much from a disk then to read and decompress a fifth of it. (and even less if its hardware dedicated)

Also mind that 3D enviroments are cheap. Memorable 80hours+ games like Ocarina of Time did fit on a 32MB cartidge. But only thanks to low resolution.
Yet if you see that games were for years sold on a multiple CD solution, you can guess that the size of those games was just average.

Point is that the game consists of two major parts, textures and pre redendered videos. I don't remember witch game it was but i think resistance of witch the developers wrote a NTSCtoPAL converter because the 6GB of PAL videos took to long to write a prototype game.

Eventually we'll see XBox 360 games coming on multiple DVD's but I don't know if the appreciation of a game has ever been lowered by a multiple disk solution. Look at PC-games where you have to search the disk only to start the game, no much complaints about that. On the other hand i think many people would prefer to change a disk like 20 times in the lifespan of their console then to pay a 200$ surplus and the additional cost of Blue-Ray disk that is in fact slower then a DVD disk. And all the data on a blue-Ray disk have to be read once...

Conclusion: textureless 3D gaming enviroments are cheap and textures are compressed on the fly by the GPU by means of S3TC look alike hardware solutions that compress to a fifth or lower of the original size. The real space eating part are video's, it's up to the developer to make the choise between a bandwidth intensive codec like H-264 or one like DivX and what resolution. Also how do you manage them, you simply store a 1080p and 720p and 480p copy or do you resize them on the fly.
On the consumer end, some will see the difference between a high def codec and a low def one. But most of us don't, or don't care. And not all those who care will prefer a 200$ solution above a 15$ solution.
Finally you can question if it is desirable to have prerendered video in a game or just use the engine to do the dirty work. Also do we want hour and hours of video in a way too short video game that costed 60$ in the first place and is these days too short anyway? The fact is Sony wants to push their expensive patent protected Blue-Ray format over the low cost patent-pooled HD-DVD. So we should now have to pay more to pay even more for our movies in the future and to have lazy developers pushing and pushing more boring loading-videos into our games.
Don't be fooled, where bandwidth and space or memory is limited, engineers get creative and innovative. Game's don't suffer these days from shortage on storage but by politics that think games are made by the Umbrella Company and will soon turn us and our children in mindless zombies.

wow so much bs that its just wow.

so who thinks Gballzack is part of Nintendo viral forum campaign.