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wfz said:



I believe this situation could have easily been avoided, and shouldn't have happened.

 

i fully support this statement.  those scumbags should not have decided it would be fun to break into someones home and steal things.  hopefully, other idiots will learn from this and decide theyre better off getting a job rather than being jackasses.



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lol yeah. those bums definitely deserved it. I mean get a freakin job for crying out loud.



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TWRoO said:
I'm sorry but that's awful.

He confronted them, and spoke to them, and he shot them BOTH in the back?

I'm all for "protecting yourself" in your own home and everything, but this doesn't exactly sound like self-defense. I mean if he confronted them like that he must have had time to aim, in which case he should have shot at the mans leg at worst, but really shouldn't have shot at all unless they threatened him, which they can't have been because he shot them in the back... Then there is the fact he shot both of them!

 

in the US if you shoot someone in anyway other then killing them in self defence they can sue you for assault with a deadly weapon meaning that his intention of doing the right thing would have landed him in jail with a massive lawsuit from the real criminals against him.

But I disagree, he did a nobel thing. If you dont like the fact that people like him actually did something right then its your problem but frankly i know if someone was trying to steal from someone living around you that you would feel guilty as hell that you did not stop them if you knew it was happening and the police were not goinig to be able to stop them in time.



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MrBubbles said:
wfz said:



I believe this situation could have easily been avoided, and shouldn't have happened.

 

i fully support this statement.  those scumbags should not have decided it would be fun to break into someones home and steal things.  hopefully, other idiots will learn from this and decide theyre better off getting a job rather than being jackasses.

 

I just hope that you never will be in the case that you need to steal...probably the robbers said the same like you ten years ago.



Luik said:
MrBubbles said:
wfz said:



I believe this situation could have easily been avoided, and shouldn't have happened.

 

i fully support this statement.  those scumbags should not have decided it would be fun to break into someones home and steal things.  hopefully, other idiots will learn from this and decide theyre better off getting a job rather than being jackasses.

 

I just hope that you never will be in the case that you need to steal...probably the robbers said the same like you ten years ago.

 

from what i recall...at least one was an illegal alien and both were gang members known by the police.  so its doubtful they were ever particularily concerned with laws or other people.

 

edit:  both were illegal.  



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I don't agree with the guy's actions at all.

I don't really care about gun laws too much, but I think it's definitely wrong to shoot and kill a burglar unless they are hostile.

I can understand why he would do such a thing...I'd be afraid for my house and family about that burglar coming back for revenge if I wounded the guy and he got away or something like that...but killing a man for stealing just isn't right...a shot to the leg and I'd be ok with this.

I don't really have a problem with this guy, but I do think he should have served time or something.



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This is why I hate the USA legal system.

Somebody was commiting a crime that didn't actually affect him so he had the right to kill them? He was not acting a self defense (as he was not actually threatened in any way) nor in defense of his property (as they weren't on his property).

Its basically a vigilante execution and that is something I can never agree with.



BenKenobi88 said:

I don't agree with the guy's actions at all.

I don't really care about gun laws too much, but I think it's definitely wrong to shoot and kill a burglar unless they are hostile.

I can understand why he would do such a thing...I'd be afraid for my house and family about that burglar coming back for revenge if I wounded the guy and he got away or something like that...but killing a man for stealing just isn't right...a shot to the leg and I'd be ok with this.

I don't really have a problem with this guy, but I do think he should have served time or something.

First off, I understand your perspective, but agree to disagree.

One major thing that wasn't stated in this article is the man claims that in the act of running away, the men crisscrossed, and he actually thought that one of them was running towards him, as to crisscross one man actually had to step closer to this man.

Either way, even if you disagree with what the guy did, you don't think he should have really went to jail, do you?

I mean, these men were burglers. They knew the risk of running into a man with the gun, and they paid the price. When you burgle and trespass you don't deserve to die, but you give up certain rights. Nobody should be punished for protecting their home or the homes of their friends, and any decisions made in the heat of the moment should be taken with a grain of salt, as it's very easy to judge the mans actions after the fact. In the heat of the moment, you may have done the same thing, from the point of yourself holding a gun on two criminals.

 

Here's the best lesson to pull out of this:

If someone has a shotgun on you and tells you to freeze....for the love of God, freeze.

IMO, this man did nothing illegal, nor should anything he did ever be considered illegal. Was it wrong? Well, only he knows that for sure. However, he was well within his rights to do it, and I'd support that conclusion in court.



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Rath said:
  (as they weren't on his property).

 

from what i read, they were infact on his property when he shot them.



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Rath said:
This is why I hate the USA legal system.

Somebody was commiting a crime that didn't actually affect him so he had the right to kill them? He was not acting a self defense (as he was not actually threatened in any way) nor in defense of his property (as they weren't on his property).

Its basically a vigilante execution and that is something I can never agree with.

 

What if his neighbor was his best friend or brother-in-law?

Lawbreakers take a risk when they tresspass and burgle.

 

The day we use the law to reward criminals and put citicizens who stand against them in prison for their stance, is the day that America is no longer free from the tyrrany of men.

How dare anyone insinuate that violations of the law shouldn't matter to someone just because they didn't happen to you?

 

Oh, that woman was just getting raped. It was none of my business, she wasn't even related to me, so I called the police and waited.

Don't commit trespass in a southern state and then run when someone has a gun on you. They can and probably should shoot you for free. That's the bottom line here. Anything else is simply ideology.

 

None of us know the whole situation, so we shouldn't use what we think we woulda or shoulda done to be our stick of what this guy did. He said he thought his life was in danger, I believe him. Have no reason not to. If you have a gun on someone who is close to you and they bolt, if they did bolt towards you, you better shoot, or you are DEAD. Details here don't matter as much as the fact that the man says he was afraid for his life, the shooting obviously wasn't pre-meditated, and there was no motive. Unless you just assume the guy is a psycho with no real evidence, you would have to let him go also, if you were on the jury, or you'd be breaking the law yourself.



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