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sc94597 said:
windbane said:
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Um you do realize that the article also said that it reduced loading times from regular mini dvds, which means the disc is different. It doesn't matter if the drive could play dvds, the discs are different. Otherwise nintendo would have to pay the DVD forum. IT also says developed by Matsushita and Nintendo.

 

@ Your other post. Just because a phone plays games doesn't mean its a gaming console. Same to you morgyn.

 


It's based on DVD, and DVDs worked on the system. The point is Nintendo didn't create disc tech, nd as morgyn points out, they didn't create touch screens, either. Also, you might want to check the Japanese cell-phone gaming scene.

So pc gaming is popular in korea. Is that a console now? Anyway we are talking specifically in gaming consoles. Not where discs originiate. And then lets say sony and nintendo both copied discs in consoles, because both sega and philips had disc based consoles. Anyway I never said copying was bad.

 


Sony created optical discs parallel to Phillips. They didn't copy anybody with that.



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windbane said:
sc94597 said:
windbane said:
sc94597 said:
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Um you do realize that the article also said that it reduced loading times from regular mini dvds, which means the disc is different. It doesn't matter if the drive could play dvds, the discs are different. Otherwise nintendo would have to pay the DVD forum. IT also says developed by Matsushita and Nintendo.

 

@ Your other post. Just because a phone plays games doesn't mean its a gaming console. Same to you morgyn.

 


It's based on DVD, and DVDs worked on the system. The point is Nintendo didn't create disc tech, nd as morgyn points out, they didn't create touch screens, either. Also, you might want to check the Japanese cell-phone gaming scene.

So pc gaming is popular in korea. Is that a console now? Anyway we are talking specifically in gaming consoles. Not where discs originiate. And then lets say sony and nintendo both copied discs in consoles, because both sega and philips had disc based consoles. Anyway I never said copying was bad.

 


Sony created optical discs parallel to Phillips. They didn't copy anybody with that.

Actually laser disc was created by MCA and like I said before  they weren't the first to bring it to consoles.

 



sc94597 said:
windbane said:
sc94597 said:
windbane said:
sc94597 said:
snip

Um you do realize that the article also said that it reduced loading times from regular mini dvds, which means the disc is different. It doesn't matter if the drive could play dvds, the discs are different. Otherwise nintendo would have to pay the DVD forum. IT also says developed by Matsushita and Nintendo.

 

@ Your other post. Just because a phone plays games doesn't mean its a gaming console. Same to you morgyn.

 


It's based on DVD, and DVDs worked on the system. The point is Nintendo didn't create disc tech, nd as morgyn points out, they didn't create touch screens, either. Also, you might want to check the Japanese cell-phone gaming scene.

So pc gaming is popular in korea. Is that a console now? Anyway we are talking specifically in gaming consoles. Not where discs originiate. And then lets say sony and nintendo both copied discs in consoles, because both sega and philips had disc based consoles. Anyway I never said copying was bad.

 


Sony created optical discs parallel to Phillips. They didn't copy anybody with that.

Actually laser disc was created by MCA and like I said before  they weren't the first to bring it to consoles.

 


Ok, specifically CDs, then. The first successful optical disc. The Phillips cd-i was based on cds...co-developed with Sony. We all know the history with Nintendo back-stabbing Sony, going to Phillips, then not using either one.



Quite funny how quick the sony fans jumped to defending what is obviously a copy of nintendo. Yet it was these same people that jumped on Microsoft for the "X-mote".

Seriously, there are very few people in the industry that create original ideas and concepts, most are just reimaginings of what was done before, the more outlandish the reimagining, the less likely they'll be branded as copy-cats. Obviously Nintendo is much better at doing that than MS and Sony are.



windbane said:
sc94597 said:
windbane said:
sc94597 said:
windbane said:
sc94597 said:
snip

Um you do realize that the article also said that it reduced loading times from regular mini dvds, which means the disc is different. It doesn't matter if the drive could play dvds, the discs are different. Otherwise nintendo would have to pay the DVD forum. IT also says developed by Matsushita and Nintendo.

 

@ Your other post. Just because a phone plays games doesn't mean its a gaming console. Same to you morgyn.

 


It's based on DVD, and DVDs worked on the system. The point is Nintendo didn't create disc tech, nd as morgyn points out, they didn't create touch screens, either. Also, you might want to check the Japanese cell-phone gaming scene.

So pc gaming is popular in korea. Is that a console now? Anyway we are talking specifically in gaming consoles. Not where discs originiate. And then lets say sony and nintendo both copied discs in consoles, because both sega and philips had disc based consoles. Anyway I never said copying was bad.

 


Sony created optical discs parallel to Phillips. They didn't copy anybody with that.

Actually laser disc was created by MCA and like I said before  they weren't the first to bring it to consoles.

 


Ok, specifically CDs, then. The first successful optical disc. The Phillips cd-i was based on cds...co-developed with Sony. We all know the history with Nintendo back-stabbing Sony, going to Phillips, then not using either one.

Well then sony didn't invent discs, and they weren't the first to bring it into gaming. Also nintendo backstabbing sony?

 



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jhonip said:
where i heard this? Phone + games.... where.... mmmm where....? I got it! the pos called Ngage!!!

 

there is a difference, Nokia SUCKS

Sony Ericson's phones are freaking great

So Sony Ericson + PlayStation + PSN = DAMN

The only thing SE has is a good java engine. But Nokia's has the great Symbian OS, fully customizable to be bones, you can even code your own programs if you feel like it.

So I beg to differ, SE sucks, Nokias Rule!



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sc94597 said:
windbane said:
sc94597 said:
windbane said:
sc94597 said:
windbane said:
sc94597 said:
snip

Um you do realize that the article also said that it reduced loading times from regular mini dvds, which means the disc is different. It doesn't matter if the drive could play dvds, the discs are different. Otherwise nintendo would have to pay the DVD forum. IT also says developed by Matsushita and Nintendo.

 

@ Your other post. Just because a phone plays games doesn't mean its a gaming console. Same to you morgyn.

 


It's based on DVD, and DVDs worked on the system. The point is Nintendo didn't create disc tech, nd as morgyn points out, they didn't create touch screens, either. Also, you might want to check the Japanese cell-phone gaming scene.

So pc gaming is popular in korea. Is that a console now? Anyway we are talking specifically in gaming consoles. Not where discs originiate. And then lets say sony and nintendo both copied discs in consoles, because both sega and philips had disc based consoles. Anyway I never said copying was bad.

 


Sony created optical discs parallel to Phillips. They didn't copy anybody with that.

Actually laser disc was created by MCA and like I said before  they weren't the first to bring it to consoles.

 


Ok, specifically CDs, then. The first successful optical disc. The Phillips cd-i was based on cds...co-developed with Sony. We all know the history with Nintendo back-stabbing Sony, going to Phillips, then not using either one.

Well then sony didn't invent discs, and they weren't the first to bring it into gaming. Also nintendo backstabbing sony?

 


Sony co-developed the first successful optical format. Actually, wikipedia says some guy at Pioneer had the patent for it anyway. Anyway, I never said Sony was the first console to have cds, I said Nintendo copied the idea of using discs. Most likely, though, Sony was the first to develop the idea, because Nintendo was working with them to make their next console a cd-based one. They were going to call it the "Play Station." Instead, Nintendo scraps the idea and talks to Phillips, instead. So both Sony and Phillips work on the idea, and Nintendo screws them both and makes the N64. Meanwhile, Phillips releases a too-expensive cd-i and Sony releases the "Playstation" and changes videogame history. I thought that was common knowledge, sorry. It was Nintendo's biggest blunder in their history...pretty much everything related to N64.



windbane said:
sc94597 said:
windbane said:
sc94597 said:
windbane said:
snip

Sony created optical discs parallel to Phillips. They didn't copy anybody with that.

Actually laser disc was created by MCA and like I said before  they weren't the first to bring it to consoles.

 


Ok, specifically CDs, then. The first successful optical disc. The Phillips cd-i was based on cds...co-developed with Sony. We all know the history with Nintendo back-stabbing Sony, going to Phillips, then not using either one.

Well then sony didn't invent discs, and they weren't the first to bring it into gaming. Also nintendo backstabbing sony?

 


Sony co-developed the first successful optical format. Actually, wikipedia says some guy at Pioneer had the patent for it anyway. Anyway, I never said Sony was the first console to have cds, I said Nintendo copied the idea of using discs. Most likely, though, Sony was the first to develop the idea, because Nintendo was working with them to make their next console a cd-based one. They were going to call it the "Play Station." Instead, Nintendo scraps the idea and talks to Phillips, instead. So both Sony and Phillips work on the idea, and Nintendo screws them both and makes the N64. Meanwhile, Phillips releases a too-expensive cd-i and Sony releases the "Playstation" and changes videogame history. I thought that was common knowledge, sorry. It was Nintendo's biggest blunder in their history...pretty much everything related to N64.

I know what happend, but I wouldn't call it back stabbing, or screwing. If nintendo have never done that sony would have never joined the console market, and suceeded in it. And actually looking, the turbografix-16 had a cd addon before the snes was released. So they weren't the first to come up with the idea. And like before copying isn't bad.

 



sc94597 said:
windbane said:
sc94597 said:
windbane said:
sc94597 said:
windbane said:
snip

Sony created optical discs parallel to Phillips. They didn't copy anybody with that.

Actually laser disc was created by MCA and like I said before  they weren't the first to bring it to consoles.

 


Ok, specifically CDs, then. The first successful optical disc. The Phillips cd-i was based on cds...co-developed with Sony. We all know the history with Nintendo back-stabbing Sony, going to Phillips, then not using either one.

Well then sony didn't invent discs, and they weren't the first to bring it into gaming. Also nintendo backstabbing sony?

 


Sony co-developed the first successful optical format. Actually, wikipedia says some guy at Pioneer had the patent for it anyway. Anyway, I never said Sony was the first console to have cds, I said Nintendo copied the idea of using discs. Most likely, though, Sony was the first to develop the idea, because Nintendo was working with them to make their next console a cd-based one. They were going to call it the "Play Station." Instead, Nintendo scraps the idea and talks to Phillips, instead. So both Sony and Phillips work on the idea, and Nintendo screws them both and makes the N64. Meanwhile, Phillips releases a too-expensive cd-i and Sony releases the "Playstation" and changes videogame history. I thought that was common knowledge, sorry. It was Nintendo's biggest blunder in their history...pretty much everything related to N64.

I know what happend, but I wouldn't call it back stabbing, or screwing. If nintendo have never done that sony would have never joined the console market, and suceeded in it. And actually looking, the turbografix-16 had a cd addon before the snes was released. So they weren't the first to come up with the idea. And like before copying isn't bad.

 


If Sony hadn't released their own system, it would have been wasted development. It was a betrayal. Nintendo backed out of their agreement and went to another company. It worked out for gamers, but it certainly didn't work out for Nintendo. The turbografx-16 cd wasn't out long before the cd-i. And again, Sony co-developed CDs and made it successful. It's the same as giving Nintendo credit for touchscreens.



windbane said:
sc94597 said:
windbane said:
sc94597 said:
windbane said:
sc94597 said:
windbane said:
snip

Sony created optical discs parallel to Phillips. They didn't copy anybody with that.

Actually laser disc was created by MCA and like I said before  they weren't the first to bring it to consoles.

 


Ok, specifically CDs, then. The first successful optical disc. The Phillips cd-i was based on cds...co-developed with Sony. We all know the history with Nintendo back-stabbing Sony, going to Phillips, then not using either one.

Well then sony didn't invent discs, and they weren't the first to bring it into gaming. Also nintendo backstabbing sony?

 


Sony co-developed the first successful optical format. Actually, wikipedia says some guy at Pioneer had the patent for it anyway. Anyway, I never said Sony was the first console to have cds, I said Nintendo copied the idea of using discs. Most likely, though, Sony was the first to develop the idea, because Nintendo was working with them to make their next console a cd-based one. They were going to call it the "Play Station." Instead, Nintendo scraps the idea and talks to Phillips, instead. So both Sony and Phillips work on the idea, and Nintendo screws them both and makes the N64. Meanwhile, Phillips releases a too-expensive cd-i and Sony releases the "Playstation" and changes videogame history. I thought that was common knowledge, sorry. It was Nintendo's biggest blunder in their history...pretty much everything related to N64.

I know what happend, but I wouldn't call it back stabbing, or screwing. If nintendo have never done that sony would have never joined the console market, and suceeded in it. And actually looking, the turbografix-16 had a cd addon before the snes was released. So they weren't the first to come up with the idea. And like before copying isn't bad.

 


If Sony hadn't released their own system, it would have been wasted development. It was a betrayal. Nintendo backed out of their agreement and went to another company. It worked out for gamers, but it certainly didn't work out for Nintendo. The turbografx-16 cd wasn't out long before the cd-i. And again, Sony co-developed CDs and made it successful. It's the same as giving Nintendo credit for touchscreens.

The turbografx 16 cd came out 1989, I beleive a decent amount of years before the CD-i. It doesn't matter nintendo brought something new to gaming, sony just made it more popular, and there isn't anything wrong with that.