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*bleu-ocelot* said:
sc94597 said:
alucardremixed said:

The question is when will it be remade, the past FF games 1-6 have been remade a couple of times, titles going from the gba to the ds to the psp, and possibly other consoles. Its like FF7 has to be remade. This game will prolly sell 3-4 million, so many fans are waiting for this game, especially since the teaser ( http://www.gametrailers.com/player/5846.html ) has been shown. Hopefully they just get it over with it.

I already said why it most likely won't be remade for the ps3 if it is remade this gen.

Here are the two posts.

http://vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=914859

http://vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=916206

Also it explains why the teaser doesn't necessarily mean it goes to ps3.

I doubt it's soley about money gain.They also want to make quality games,susceptible to that title or scale of the game.Excluding the handhelds,it is logical for Final Fantasy 7 to appear exclusively on HD consoles.

 

And they need mony to make quality games. They don't have any free developement teams, and I'm pretty sure they are pooring all their money in their existing projects so how do you expect them to take up another expensive one?

 



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sc94597 said:
*bleu-ocelot* said:
sc94597 said:
alucardremixed said:

The question is when will it be remade, the past FF games 1-6 have been remade a couple of times, titles going from the gba to the ds to the psp, and possibly other consoles. Its like FF7 has to be remade. This game will prolly sell 3-4 million, so many fans are waiting for this game, especially since the teaser ( http://www.gametrailers.com/player/5846.html ) has been shown. Hopefully they just get it over with it.

I already said why it most likely won't be remade for the ps3 if it is remade this gen.

Here are the two posts.

http://vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=914859

http://vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=916206

Also it explains why the teaser doesn't necessarily mean it goes to ps3.

I doubt it's soley about money gain.They also want to make quality games,susceptible to that title or scale of the game.Excluding the handhelds,it is logical for Final Fantasy 7 to appear exclusively on HD consoles.

 

And they need mony to make quality games. They don't have any free developement teams, and I'm pretty sure they are pooring all their money in their existing projects so how do you expect them to take up another expensive one?

 

They're not pouring ALL their money on the projects they have out, if they did they would lose money regardless of their profits.  SE has more than enough to remake FF7.  They already have the story down so development time and the costs that go with that are already cut. 

 



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swyggi said:
sc94597 said:
*bleu-ocelot* said:
sc94597 said:
alucardremixed said:

The question is when will it be remade, the past FF games 1-6 have been remade a couple of times, titles going from the gba to the ds to the psp, and possibly other consoles. Its like FF7 has to be remade. This game will prolly sell 3-4 million, so many fans are waiting for this game, especially since the teaser ( http://www.gametrailers.com/player/5846.html ) has been shown. Hopefully they just get it over with it.

I already said why it most likely won't be remade for the ps3 if it is remade this gen.

Here are the two posts.

http://vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=914859

http://vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=916206

Also it explains why the teaser doesn't necessarily mean it goes to ps3.

I doubt it's soley about money gain.They also want to make quality games,susceptible to that title or scale of the game.Excluding the handhelds,it is logical for Final Fantasy 7 to appear exclusively on HD consoles.

 

And they need mony to make quality games. They don't have any free developement teams, and I'm pretty sure they are pooring all their money in their existing projects so how do you expect them to take up another expensive one?

 

They're not pouring ALL their money on the projects they have out, if they did they would lose money regardless of their profits.  SE has more than enough to remake FF7.  They already have the story down so development time and the costs that go with that are already cut. 

 

@ Bolded Where did that logic come from? WHose to say that they make back back what they lose. Also how do you know that they make back enough for another full project. They are already working on more than a dozen projects, and there probably are many more not anounced yet.

Your other point is true, but a considerable amount of the developement costs are the graphics. That is why hd console developement cost is about 4 times more than that of the wii.

 



sc94597 said:
swyggi said:
sc94597 said:
*bleu-ocelot* said:
sc94597 said:
alucardremixed said:

The question is when will it be remade, the past FF games 1-6 have been remade a couple of times, titles going from the gba to the ds to the psp, and possibly other consoles. Its like FF7 has to be remade. This game will prolly sell 3-4 million, so many fans are waiting for this game, especially since the teaser ( http://www.gametrailers.com/player/5846.html ) has been shown. Hopefully they just get it over with it.

I already said why it most likely won't be remade for the ps3 if it is remade this gen.

Here are the two posts.

http://vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=914859

http://vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=916206

Also it explains why the teaser doesn't necessarily mean it goes to ps3.

I doubt it's soley about money gain.They also want to make quality games,susceptible to that title or scale of the game.Excluding the handhelds,it is logical for Final Fantasy 7 to appear exclusively on HD consoles.

 

And they need mony to make quality games. They don't have any free developement teams, and I'm pretty sure they are pooring all their money in their existing projects so how do you expect them to take up another expensive one?

 

They're not pouring ALL their money on the projects they have out, if they did they would lose money regardless of their profits.  SE has more than enough to remake FF7.  They already have the story down so development time and the costs that go with that are already cut. 

 

@ Bolded Where did that logic come from? WHose to say that they make back back what they lose. Also how do you know that they make back enough for another full project. They are already working on more than a dozen projects, and there probably are many more not anounced yet.

Your other point is true, but a considerable amount of the developement costs are the graphics. That is why hd console developement cost is about 4 times more than that of the wii.

 


Final Fantasy XII,the lowest selling Final Fantasy sold 5 million copies.You think SE doesn't make bucket loads of profit from these games? They would probably have had to sell about 2 million copies to recoup developmental and marketing cost and the rest is pure profit.Development on next gen consoles might be costly,but not your exaggeration.

@bleuocelot None of these games are released yet to give them profit. They have no devleopers at the time free, and it takes a long time to develop hd console games, or any game for that matter. By the time all of these requirements are met, it most likely will be 2010, and then it would take many years to develop FFVII remake, and then it most likely will be released next gen.



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sc94597 said:
swyggi said:
sc94597 said:
*bleu-ocelot* said:
sc94597 said:
alucardremixed said:

The question is when will it be remade, the past FF games 1-6 have been remade a couple of times, titles going from the gba to the ds to the psp, and possibly other consoles. Its like FF7 has to be remade. This game will prolly sell 3-4 million, so many fans are waiting for this game, especially since the teaser ( http://www.gametrailers.com/player/5846.html ) has been shown. Hopefully they just get it over with it.

I already said why it most likely won't be remade for the ps3 if it is remade this gen.

Here are the two posts.

http://vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=914859

http://vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=916206

Also it explains why the teaser doesn't necessarily mean it goes to ps3.

I doubt it's soley about money gain.They also want to make quality games,susceptible to that title or scale of the game.Excluding the handhelds,it is logical for Final Fantasy 7 to appear exclusively on HD consoles.

 

And they need mony to make quality games. They don't have any free developement teams, and I'm pretty sure they are pooring all their money in their existing projects so how do you expect them to take up another expensive one?

 

They're not pouring ALL their money on the projects they have out, if they did they would lose money regardless of their profits.  SE has more than enough to remake FF7.  They already have the story down so development time and the costs that go with that are already cut. 

 

@ Bolded Where did that logic come from? WHose to say that they make back back what they lose. Also how do you know that they make back enough for another full project. They are already working on more than a dozen projects, and there probably are many more not anounced yet.

Your other point is true, but a considerable amount of the developement costs are the graphics. That is why hd console developement cost is about 4 times more than that of the wii.

 

 

 Isn't it obvious where that logic came from?  They would have to make more than what is already in their entire company to actually gain a profit if they use all of their money on the development of their games. 



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swyggi said:
sc94597 said:
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@ Bolded Where did that logic come from? WHose to say that they make back back what they lose. Also how do you know that they make back enough for another full project. They are already working on more than a dozen projects, and there probably are many more not anounced yet.

Your other point is true, but a considerable amount of the developement costs are the graphics. That is why hd console developement cost is about 4 times more than that of the wii.

 

 

 Isn't it obvious where that logic came from?  They would have to make more than what is already in their entire company to actually gain a profit if they use all of their money on the development of their games. 

And none of the games I mentioned were released yet. SO how are they going to get money? Also I believe the last time square enix reported their profits there weren't too many. Definately not enough for another game to start developement. ALso you forgot to acknolede there is nobody to develop the remake, because almost everybody is working on everything else.

 



sc94597 said:
swyggi said:
sc94597 said:
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@ Bolded Where did that logic come from? WHose to say that they make back back what they lose. Also how do you know that they make back enough for another full project. They are already working on more than a dozen projects, and there probably are many more not anounced yet.

Your other point is true, but a considerable amount of the developement costs are the graphics. That is why hd console developement cost is about 4 times more than that of the wii.

 

 

 Isn't it obvious where that logic came from?  They would have to make more than what is already in their entire company to actually gain a profit if they use all of their money on the development of their games. 

And none of the games I mentioned were released yet. SO how are they going to get money? Also I believe the last time square enix reported their profits there weren't too many. Definately not enough for another game to start developement. ALso you forgot to acknolede there is nobody to develop the remake, because almost everybody is working on everything else.

 

That's profit though; money that they earned.  It's not like they lost money.  They didn't even release any of their big games last year, so it's obvious that 2007 would be a slow year for them from 2006 when they released FFXII which gave SE enormous profit.  A company doesn't necessarily need to make a big profit from it's last fiscal year to make a big budget game. 

 

SE isn't going to make FF7 ASAP anyway, they're working on other games namely FFXIII and Versus XIII.  I never said they would try to make FF7 right now.   

 

 

 



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swyggi said:
sc94597 said:
swyggi said:
sc94597 said:
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@ Bolded Where did that logic come from? WHose to say that they make back back what they lose. Also how do you know that they make back enough for another full project. They are already working on more than a dozen projects, and there probably are many more not anounced yet.

Your other point is true, but a considerable amount of the developement costs are the graphics. That is why hd console developement cost is about 4 times more than that of the wii.

 

 

 Isn't it obvious where that logic came from?  They would have to make more than what is already in their entire company to actually gain a profit if they use all of their money on the development of their games. 

And none of the games I mentioned were released yet. SO how are they going to get money? Also I believe the last time square enix reported their profits there weren't too many. Definately not enough for another game to start developement. ALso you forgot to acknolede there is nobody to develop the remake, because almost everybody is working on everything else.

 

That's profit though; money that they earned.  It's not like they lost money.  They didn't even release any of their big games last year, so it's obvious that 2007 would be a slow year for them from 2006 when they released FFXII which gave SE enormous profit.  A company doesn't necessarily need to make a big profit from it's last fiscal year to make a big budget game. 

 

SE isn't going to make FF7 ASAP anyway, they're working on other games namely FFXIII and Versus XIII.  I never said they would try to make FF7 right now.   

 

 

 

ANd that is what I'm trying to say. They won't be developing it anytime soon. And by the time they do have time for it, it would take them more years than the generation would have left.

 



sc94597 said:
swyggi said:
sc94597 said:
swyggi said:
sc94597 said:
snip

@ Bolded Where did that logic come from? WHose to say that they make back back what they lose. Also how do you know that they make back enough for another full project. They are already working on more than a dozen projects, and there probably are many more not anounced yet.

Your other point is true, but a considerable amount of the developement costs are the graphics. That is why hd console developement cost is about 4 times more than that of the wii.

 

 

 Isn't it obvious where that logic came from?  They would have to make more than what is already in their entire company to actually gain a profit if they use all of their money on the development of their games. 

And none of the games I mentioned were released yet. SO how are they going to get money? Also I believe the last time square enix reported their profits there weren't too many. Definately not enough for another game to start developement. ALso you forgot to acknolede there is nobody to develop the remake, because almost everybody is working on everything else.

 

That's profit though; money that they earned.  It's not like they lost money.  They didn't even release any of their big games last year, so it's obvious that 2007 would be a slow year for them from 2006 when they released FFXII which gave SE enormous profit.  A company doesn't necessarily need to make a big profit from it's last fiscal year to make a big budget game. 

 

SE isn't going to make FF7 ASAP anyway, they're working on other games namely FFXIII and Versus XIII.  I never said they would try to make FF7 right now.   

 

 

 

ANd that is what I'm trying to say. They won't be developing it anytime soon. And by the time they do have time for it, it would take them more years than the generation would have left.

 

I doubt it would take SE several years to remake FF7, the cost would be the only big thing.  Of course they would have made a lot of money from FFXIII and Versus XIII not including all of their other games. 

Time-wise, it should be much less consuming because not only is the story done but the set-up is done as well.  Meaning how everything works in FF7 is done(the "what happens next" dilemma) aside of a possible change in combat if SE chooses.

 

Alright, I gotta go to sleep for work tomorrow.  Although I might lurk a little before I do. See ya.

 



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