Well ,if the 360 ends third as it seems and it was second last generation it isnt a big win for them.

I think the fact the MS went from losing billions to now making profit and beginning to erasing the losses from the first XBox regardless of sales finish, is a huge success. Sony losing market share to MS and Nintendo can only be viewed as a loss. Nintendo complete domination and rise from the ashes to make $$$ is a huge success. Regardless of personal views Sony has taken a huge hit in comparison to the PS1 and PS2. Do I want to see Sony starve and hurt, absolutely not. I think they are just as important to gaming as Nintendo and MS. Until Sony begins to turn a profit again, topic posts such as these are going to materialize, and we are all going to be unhappy with the results.

Here are the current numbers, WW, from last generation (approx):

PS2: 119 m Market Share: 72%

XB: 24 m Market Share: 15%

GC: 21 m Market Share: 13%

Current numbers from current generation (approx):

PS3: 14 m Market Share: 28%

360: 19 m Market Share: 38%

Wii: 28 m Market Share: 56%

Yes, there are rounding errors, but look at the percentages. Sony went from having 72% to having 28% on their current-gen console. Nintendo went from 13% to 56%. And MS went from 15% to 38%. The numbers will shift over time, but there just isn't reasonable math available to suggest the PS3 will come anywhere close to having 70% market share, and MS has more than doubled their market share, and by Christmas will likely have surpassed the LTD sales of the original Xbox.

This has to be considered a big win for MS and Nintendo, although I would not suggest that Sony has "lost" this generation... they've just fallen from a very high perch.

EDIT: corrected the PS3 percentage.

 38+28+56 = 122%

WHAT!

I dont understand that logic so Nintendo is a loser because they dont have the almost "100%" market share they had with their last handheld?

i thought as long as a company makes money they win

Sony and Microsoft have not profited yet from this gen.

 Depends on the company really

Is a company willing to lose money to win something they see more important?

If Sony sees it that way then Sony already won this gen if that was the Ps3's goal it accomplished it. Now they got one of their objectives out of the way they will be focusing on their other objective - making money.

then xbox is a failure and the ds aswell.

He said there were rounding errors!  LMAO