It's like this they are simply using their interchangeable argument. It's easier to do that since you know they are not winning over the Gamers in general.

this argument seems familar to me..where have i heard it before.....for some reason troll comes to my mind but i dont knwo why

You use a sentence to dismiss my analysis thinking that's adequet enough to mean anything ? I'm requesting that you respond to my poor analysis with your all powerfull skills of anaylysis.

Sure. Peruse Nintendo's financials and then tell me how many years they could sit it out on the sidelines before they go broke.

http://www.nintendo.com/corp/annual_report.jsp

point Fku

Forum goers almost always fail to put themselves in the companies' shoes. The main question is, is it even economically viable? A company's decisions are not just about "winning" in the market. The primary objective is to please the shareholders (so they get more dividends). If you do something that increases your losses in that sector, the shareholders will get upset, stock prices will drop, and the company will suffer even more.

Of course he can offer a 1 sentence rebuttal to your post, infact he could post an entire rebuttal in one link (which I believe he has done).

The truth of the matter is that Nintendo has not posted a loss in more than a decade (I actually don't know when their last loss was).  In fact Nintendo has earned more money during the PS1 and PS2 era than Sony did, and that is one of the reasons why Nintendo isn't going anywhere.

First, allow me to sum up Fkus' argument for him:

    First, I have to ask what your definition of the word 'shrinking' is.  Because to me, it means 'becoming smaller in scope or size.'  For the first time ever, a Nintendo console has outsold its'  predecessor.  Not only that, but it outsold its' predecessor, which had been commercially viable for 5 years, in just over one year.  It is on track, statistically, to far surpassing any system they've ever made in their 25-odd years in this business.  You can argue that you don't think it will outsell PS2, yadayadayada, but if you are the type who thinks this, you're also the type who would have laughed your ass off last generation if I even made such a comparison.

   Any logical person would see this as tremendous growth in itself, but there's more.  They ALSO have the most popular handheld device of all time.  It is approximately 10 million away from outselling its' own predecessor, the Game Boy Advance, in many years less time.  There's a high chance it will even beat the original Game Boy, which had over 120 million install base, at the record pace its' selling.

   So, to sum up, they are the market leader in both consoles and handhelds.  They are on track to selling better than anything else they have ever made, and are going for the gold medal for 'Highest-Selling Game System Ever'.

    So, if you wouldn't mind, I'd love to hear your 'shrinking' definition.

As for your other 'points':

-" The thing is, is that during the time of the two generation flops, they had almost the ENTIRE handheld market. No company dared enter it then."

That's because many had tried previously.

  -Atari Lynx

  -Sega Game Gear (The best competitor before PSP)

  -TurboExpress (A portable TurboGrafX-16)

  -game.com (Not a web-site, pronounced 'game com')

  -Neo Geo

  -WonderSwan

  -Nokia N-Gage

These were all systems backed by big companies, most of whom were competitors in the console business as well.  These systems, too, promised to 'make the console experience portable'.  Like the PSP, these competitors all got their asses handed to them.

-"However, Microsoft has already said they will not continue the Xbox, so unless they make something new they've basically said they give up."

Where to start?  This is just completely, 100% incorrect.

I really have to wonder if you've ever considered doing the slightest bit of research (like actually reading the forums) before you post.  They literally JUST stated that they will definitely be making another Xbox console.

Microsoft: The 360 will be selling for a looooong, long time.
06/19/08, 21:09

So, to sum it all up:

I know, cause Sony totally has the humility and grace not to say that they completely pounded the GameCube, even though it too was half the price.  *rolls eyes*

The whole thing that annoys some people is that the little and humble Nintendo that everyone bet for last place in this generation managed to make the impossible. First place and breaking so far almost every record in videogames history.
It is hard for a hardcore Sony and especially a ms fan to swallow this. I bet they were sure that Nintendo would retire to the handheld market only.
Too bad for them, and a big surprise to everyone (especially the journalists) who thought Nintendo is dead.
And as far as the other two (sony, ms) are not willing to understand what happened this generation, they will face much worse sales and consequencies.
One more thing i am very sad to see. I see ms is much more willing to change in different ways than sony. I can not understand why.