By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Sales - DS is no competition for PSP, says Sony

thekitchensink said:
hunter_alien said:
thekitchensink said:
hunter_alien said:
Man ... the hate in this thread is amazing . And pathetic in the same time .

Yes , the PSP is partially competing with the DS , but I do agree that game library wise the PSP has an entirely different market . Just looking at a chart a couple of months ago I saw that the PSPs game library had almost 50% of its games made out of M and T rated games , while the DS game library has ~ 75% E reated games ... that says a lot ...

The PSP didnt create this market tough . Its mostly built out of technology lovers , Sony loyalists and ex GB owners . The DS on the other hand opened up a totally new market and thats why its so successful . So yeah , I dont think that the PSP and DS are battling for the same crowd ...

 

Picture this: I have a DS and a PSP (I don't really, but work with me). I am in the market for one handheld game. I go to a game store and check out both sections. I have my eye on New Super Mario Bros. or Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops. I choose NSMB.

 

Are you honestly telling me that Sony DIDN'T just lose a sale to Nintendo?

 

Yes, more than half of my 20-odd DS games happen to be rated E. I also happen to be 18 years old. And yet NSMB, Animal Crossing, the Phoenix Wrights (rated E thru T), Bomberman, etc, all compete for my time with other 'Mature' games (which I do also play a lot of).

 

I'm also an ex-GB owner btw.

 

Picture this : Im a PSP owner and I had 2 PSPs and 2 DSs ( bothe the original and the redesign of both systems ) . When I go in store Il rather buy MPO and not NSMB . Your comparison is similar to this one : somebody goes into the shop and has an eye on a washing machine and a fridge . He chooses the fridge . They are both houshold products , but still extremely different .

Also from my ~50 PSP games I have ~20 M rated games and they often take away my gaming time from my T/E rated games . Also Im an ex-GB/GBC/GBA owner .

 

See , we can both do this , but the fact still remains , both systems game library is made for mostly a different crowd . Yes , they intercept ( LocoRoco/NSMB , Daxter/M64 etc. ) but overall they are almost entirely different , and even tough I know that the DS has many hardcore games , the fact still remains that the majority DS owners are softcore , Nintendogs/Imagine Babiez gamers ...

 

I think you're missing my point--maybe I'm not communicating it properly.

 

I'll use your example, if someone goes into a shop, knowing that they need a washing machine and a fridge, but can only afford one. After looking at all the models for both machines, he makes the decision that, at this point, it's more important to have something that keeps his food cold than something that cleans his clothes, so he buys a nice refrigerator. The man found them important enough to consider the same market (household necessities), but he decided the fridge was better for his needs at the time.

Just as I might decide to play NSMB over MGS:PO (or vice versa). I like both games at different times ('Intense' vs. 'Happy'). Since I thought about both of them, but decided on one, the other lost out on a sale. That is the very definition of competition in the marketplace.

 

 

Now I understand what you are saying , an dif you read my first post that I made here you can see that I to agreed untill a point that they are competitors . The ones that like both 'happy' and 'intense' are much fewer than the ones who like either one or the other . The PSP crowd is mostly based on people who like 'intense' while the DS crowd is more into 'happy' . There is only ~ 30% of PSP or DS owners whom own both , and for only this 30% they are competing software wise , or later on hardware wise when a redesign will arrive ( 30% is just a presumtion ) and the rest are the ones whom only have one , and they know they only want one of them ...

 

Yes they are competing to one point , but luckily both have a pretty big 'exclusive' market for themselves .

 



Vote the Mayor for Mayor!

Around the Network

Hunter_Alien good grief.

Must you split hairs over something not positive being said about the PSP? And no offense, but I can't help but wonder (given your avatar and signiture) if there is just the hint of any bias in your responses within a thread where 99% of the posters disagree with you.

Oh and you own 2 DS? I guess that makes you unbiased, now let's just ignore your avatar, signiture and the dancing patapons.



Onimusha12 said:
Hunter_Alien good grief.

Must you split hairs over something not positive being said about the PSP? And no offense, but I can't help but wonder (given your avatar and signiture) if there is just the hint of any bias in your responses within a thread where 99% of the posters disagree with you.

Oh and you own 2 DS? I guess that makes you unbiased, now let's just ignore your avatar, signiture and the dancing patapons.

Correction : I owned 2 DSs . My first one was bought in 05 , and my Black DS Lite was bought this January , just to sell it afther little over a month ( What can I say , I only played it intensly for ~ a week and then got bored of it :? ) .

 

Also , never in my life I tried to hide the fact that Im a PSP fanboy ! Even the contrary , I only tried to make it more obvious . Why ? Is there a law that states that I cant be a fanboy ? 95% of this sites users are fanboys , I just happen to like the least popular system . Whenever there is a Wii/DS bashing thread , their respective fanboys jump to protect it , why shouldent I do the same , especially when I PARTIALLY ( read that a couple of times , so I wont have to repeat it for the 4th time ) disagree with the poster ?

 

99% of the posters disagree with me ? Well thank god that there is at least somebody who is different , and there are more responses than the usual " I agree " . I do hope that my speach freedom wont be violated here , and I see its not , so I do think that I have my right to respond whatever I want untill its not off topic , or I dont violate any other rules of the site ...

 



Vote the Mayor for Mayor!

"DS is no competition for PSP, says Sony "

Yeah, because they are in competition with Tiger Handhelds, Gizmondo and www.leapsandbounds.com

Seriously are they on crizzack

:)

I like PSP(somewhat) but thier PR makes psp look wack (and the PR folk too)

EDIT: Just saw PSP has Kingdom Hearts this year. Loving it even more.



I am WEEzY. You can suck my Nintendo loving BALLS!

 

MynameisGARY

I own 1 handheld. I chose a DS over a PSP.
If i want a media device I will get the 80GB Zune. Or Video Ipod.



End of 2009 Predictions (Set, January 1st 2009)

Wii- 72 million   3rd Year Peak, better slate of releases

360- 37 million   Should trend down slightly after 3rd year peak

PS3- 29 million  Sales should pick up next year, 3rd year peak and price cut

Around the Network
Onimusha12 said:
Hunter_Alien good grief.

Must you split hairs over something not positive being said about the PSP? And no offense, but I can't help but wonder (given your avatar and signiture) if there is just the hint of any bias in your responses within a thread where 99% of the posters disagree with you.

Oh and you own 2 DS? I guess that makes you unbiased, now let's just ignore your avatar, signiture and the dancing patapons.

 

There's nothing wrong with the discussion Hunter and I were having, we both just misunderstood each others' points to a degree



Could I trouble you for some maple syrup to go with the plate of roffles you just served up?

Tag, courtesy of fkusumot: "Why do most of the PS3 fanboys have avatars that looks totally pissed?"
"Ok, girl's trapped in the elevator, and the power's off.  I swear, if a zombie comes around the next corner..."
Onimusha12 said:
Hunter_Alien good grief.

Must you split hairs over something not positive being said about the PSP? And no offense, but I can't help but wonder (given your avatar and signiture) if there is just the hint of any bias in your responses within a thread where 99% of the posters disagree with you.

Oh and you own 2 DS? I guess that makes you unbiased, now let's just ignore your avatar, signiture and the dancing patapons.

 

 Seriously though. Check out the 08 best year for psp thread for a good laugh.

 

He just can't take it when someone says the slightest negative comment on psp.

 

lol



I am WEEzY. You can suck my Nintendo loving BALLS!

 

MynameisGARY

They accidently got it backwards. Obviously they meant to say that the PSP is No Competition for the DS, which it isn't.

It is probably accurate to say that the PSP and the DS are not in competition. It is unlikely that Sony meant for the PSP not to compete directly with the DS



Okay Honestly it's hard to argue with the fact that they are in the same market. It's just like the two examples that were used above. I honestly can say since I bought The World Ends with You that it took a possible sale away from the PSP. After all I was looking at God of War at the same time. I made my choice based on my tastes but to say the PSP is in a different market because of gamers various tastes is not a very good argument really. It's more like they needed a boost of confidence and they had to make an excuse. This makes them look desperate which is sad because the PSP is a good system and I love it. They shouldn't make statements like this.



Boycotting the following:

1. Yoshi: He ate my car and spit out a toaster.

2. Igglybuff: Totally false advertisement. You can have as many as you like they don't buff nothing.

3. the Terms Hardcore/Softcore... We're talking Video Games. Not Porn.

4. The term Casual as relates to Gamers: We make them sound like outsider's that happen to play games.  If that were the case they'd own a PS3.

5. Donuts.... Beacause I drink Beer...... and the biggest fan of Donuts hates Beer.

6. Boycotts: Their so lame.

 

 


If I were Sony, I wouldn't really give that much of a damn about the DS considering that the sales of the PSP are pretty damn good, and that by the end of its lifespan it will have sold more than everything except the OG Game Boy, GBA, DS, PS1, PS2, and Wii.

Yeah, the PSP is being outsold by the DS, but so is everything else.

 

Consoles owned: Saturn, Dreamcast, PS1, PS2, PSP, DS, PS3