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reload92 said:
DRJ said:
It is doing bad because in 6 months Sony has gone from a completely dominating position to a 15% or less market share / week. 360 has a huge head start and the Wii is outselling it by a considerable margin each week.

Add to that, Sony is losing tons of money on the PS3.

They did less than 45k last week world wide. To put that in perspective, the Wii sold more than that in each region. Wii sells more each week than PS3 does each month. And the Wii is profitable. That is a complete disaster for Sony.

PS3 is selling the same as GC and XBox last gen :http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=GC®1=All&cons2=PS3®2=All&cons3=XB®3=All&align=1

Wii is selling better than PS2 and 360 launch aligned as well. PS2 and 360 are doing similar sales.



Once again it is all about expectations, Most people who looked at the ps2 sales expected the ps3 to sell miles above the Wii. But for people who looked at price supply games etc. thought the Wii would blow the PS3 out of the water. So just restating its all about opinion and expectations.


Agreed.



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PS3 it`s not selling bad(only low). It`s selling good, like PS2 did first year.
If ps3 will sell less then 5 mln, by the end of this year, then yeah, ps3 is not doing good.

PS2 in first 6 month in japan made 2,5 Mln. with 300$ price.
PS3 in first 6 month in japan+usa made 2,4 Mln. with 600$ price

PS2 in another 6 month made 8 mln. worldwide with price 300$.
PS3 in another 6 month have to make 7 mln. worldwide with 600$ price.

1,5-2 for japan, 2,5-3 mln. for usa, 2-2,5 mln. for other.
Not possible you say?
June - NGS, Folklore, Darkness, R6V.
July - EG5, Lair, NGS.
August - EofJ, SingStar, Stranglehold.
September - UT3, AC, HS, Warhawk, Guitar Hero III.
October - GTA4, Folklore, "Home".
November - R&C, Socom, Haze, The Spy,
December - Uncharted, LBP, Tekken6, GT5 prologue.

+ Possible price CUT.

November-December may make 2 mln. in usa and 2 mln. in other + 1 mln. in japan. That would be 5 mln. and 2 mln during june-october, i don`t se a problem.



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2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

CrazzyMan said:
PS3 it`s not selling bad(only low). It`s selling good, like PS2 did first year.
If ps3 will sell less then 5 mln, by the end of this year, then yeah, ps3 is not doing good.

PS2 in first 6 month in japan made 2,5 Mln. with 300$ price.
PS3 in first 6 month in japan+usa made 2,4 Mln. with 600$ price

PS2 in another 6 month made 8 mln. worldwide with price 300$.
PS3 in another 6 month have to make 7 mln. worldwide with 600$ price.

1,5-2 for japan, 2,5-3 mln. for usa, 2-2,5 mln. for other.
Not possible you say?
June - NGS, Folklore, Darkness, R6V.
July - EG5, Lair, NGS.
August - EofJ, SingStar, Stranglehold.
September - UT3, AC, HS, Warhawk, Guitar Hero III.
October - GTA4, Folklore, "Home".
November - R&C, Socom, Haze, The Spy,
December - Uncharted, LBP, Tekken6, GT5 prologue.

+ Possible price CUT.

November-December may make 2 mln. in usa and 2 mln. in other + 1 mln. in japan. That would be 5 mln. and 2 mln during june-october, i don`t se a problem.

I honestly think that the deciding factor of the PS3 maybe this holiday season. If anyone else agrees or disagrees please tell me.



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CrazzyMan said:
That would be 5 mln. and 2 mln during june-october, i don`t se a problem.

You don't see a problem? I see a problem... 2 millions in 5 months is about 92k consoles per week, while the PS3 is doing less than 50k a week lately.



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reload92 said:
CrazzyMan said:
PS3 it`s not selling bad(only low). It`s selling good, like PS2 did first year.
If ps3 will sell less then 5 mln, by the end of this year, then yeah, ps3 is not doing good.

PS2 in first 6 month in japan made 2,5 Mln. with 300$ price.
PS3 in first 6 month in japan+usa made 2,4 Mln. with 600$ price

PS2 in another 6 month made 8 mln. worldwide with price 300$.
PS3 in another 6 month have to make 7 mln. worldwide with 600$ price.

1,5-2 for japan, 2,5-3 mln. for usa, 2-2,5 mln. for other.
Not possible you say?
June - NGS, Folklore, Darkness, R6V.
July - EG5, Lair, NGS.
August - EofJ, SingStar, Stranglehold.
September - UT3, AC, HS, Warhawk, Guitar Hero III.
October - GTA4, Folklore, "Home".
November - R&C, Socom, Haze, The Spy,
December - Uncharted, LBP, Tekken6, GT5 prologue.

+ Possible price CUT.

November-December may make 2 mln. in usa and 2 mln. in other + 1 mln. in japan. That would be 5 mln. and 2 mln during june-october, i don`t se a problem.

I honestly think that the deciding factor of the PS3 maybe this holiday season. If anyone else agrees or disagrees please tell me.


Well I think the PS3's may have already been decided -- I think the way I'd put it is this: I feel it's unlikely that the PS3 will win this generation. If it falls even farther behind this Christmas, instead of making up some ground, then I would say it qualifies as extremely, highly unlikely that the PS3 will win this generation.

Or put differently, I already think the PS3's chances are slim. If it struggles at Christmas, it's chances are basically zero. So yes, I kinda agree :p



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the fact of the matter is the ps2 was the best selling console of all time so the expectations were high for the ps3... sony handled alot of things wrong so far.. the price should not have been 600 U.S. dollars. they should have had at least a one AAA post launch game released during its 1st 7 months but they didnt.. they have been building momentum in the right direction as of late but will it be enough?? i dont think so.. the wii will overtake the 360 later this year leaving the ps3  to fight for 2nd with the 360.. . im not just gonna bash sony on this comment im gonna be fair and bash microsoft too.. the 360 supposedly sold 10 mill at the end of 2006 but obviously it didnt.. sales have been slower than expected microsoft orginally said they were gonna ship 15 million by june2007.. buy they changed it to 12 million and probably wont do that this month... microsoft should have had a better plan for the japanese market but they did not.. which is killing them right now over there..

my point is that each console has had its ups and downs.. the ps3 has had alot of downs.. in my opinion its because of lack of games.. 360 was in a similar position last year even when it wasnt supply constrained.. i know because it sucked last year waiting for GOW.. or Vegas.. but we'll see this holiday will be interesting.. thats when the battle begins... round 1 is in august..there will be no more excuses who will come out victorious??



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Crazzyman, that doesn't seem a bit off to you? You think that, because the PS3 is doing about as well in the US and Japan, plus the Euro launch, as the PS2 did in just Japan, then it'll do as well as the PS2 did worldwide, with its own US and Euro launches, in the next six months?



Well I'm done here you guys can go on and argue more about crazzyman's comment lol but I'm done.



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reload92 said:

I honestly think that the deciding factor of the PS3 maybe this holiday season. If anyone else agrees or disagrees please tell me.


I agree with you, this holiday season is the most crucial one for Sony.



Dolla Dolla said:
reload92 said:

I honestly think that the deciding factor of the PS3 maybe this holiday season. If anyone else agrees or disagrees please tell me.


I agree with you, this holiday season is the most crucial one for Sony.


i agree too



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