eliasg said: 1. 100k 2. The 360 will outsell the PS3 by 10 k 3. No.

 Haha. MS fanboys at their best.

MikeB said: @ starcraft Like I said before once MGS4 hits I don't see much chance of the 360 outselling the PS3 worldwide again. However the 360 still has millions XBox fans in North America and Europe who still haven't upgraded towards the 360, this despite nearly all popular XBox games already received sequels (only Fable 2 and the multi-platform game Starwars remaining, coming out this year and there's GeOW 2, so this year should still be fine overall).

Platformers have definitely become niche.

I also think its safe to say the "only people that buy 360's are Xbox owners" argument has passed with the 360 receiving just as big (little) a boost from GTAIV as the PS3 along with this news:

http://www.vgchartz.com/news/news.php?id=1284

 

Trillions!

1. 60-70k
2. 45k
3. No

oh come on. Titles like Lair and HEavenly Sword may have been hyped by PS fanboys but primarily Nintendo fanboys and 360 fans were making them into the last chance and turning point titles. Both failed (more or less) and still the PS3 is outselling the 360. And it will outsell the 360 heavily next week. MGS4 is big and it will change things a bit. But its no GTA, Gran Turismo or Final Fantasy. The true put-up or shut-up phase will start with Gran Turismo 5 and FFXIII.

its good to see a 299 console outsell a 159 console.

1. 135K (270K PS3 vs 135K X360 on MGS4-week)
2. 30K (rufly 170K vs 140K in mid July)
3. ...

starcraft said: MikeB said: @ starcraft Like I said before once MGS4 hits I don't see much chance of the 360 outselling the PS3 worldwide again. However the 360 still has millions XBox fans in North America and Europe who still haven't upgraded towards the 360, this despite nearly all popular XBox games already received sequels (only Fable 2 and the multi-platform game Starwars remaining, coming out this year and there's GeOW 2, so this year should still be fine overall). Platformers have definitely become niche. I also think its safe to say the "only people that buy 360's are Xbox owners" argument has passed with the 360 receiving just as big (little) a boost from GTAIV as the PS3 along with this news: http://www.vgchartz.com/news/news.php?id=1284

New Super Mario Bros sold over 14 million copies, that's more than Halo 3 and Gears combined.

Nobody is saying "only" XBox owners buy 360s. I actually made a point that I expect lots of people to upgrade still, the entry pricing and games library probably isn't the issue. Apart from the shitty reliability the 360 also seems a much nicer console than the uglier and bulkier original box.

I do think when most these people upgraded, saturation will slowly start to kick in and I don't expect much from the 360 saleswise in 2009.

1. 118,523.
2. 31,902.
3. NO

1. 20K(that's two zero, didn't mean to type 200.)
2. -10K
3. The PS3 won't beat the Wii in sales until Nintendo has sold it's 6 billionth Wii(100% market saturation!)

I figured I'd play devil's advocate. My reasoning lies in the US economy sputtering. That $$$ difference between the 360 and the PS3 will be the dealbreaker no matter what game comes out. Gas just hit $4 a gallon and the only sectors that added jobs were the low paying McJobs sectors. My credibility doesn't exist and I'm a 'tard anyway with these predictions, so I'll go with the longshot.