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Jesus Christ @ High School Musical

I see that crap laying in my friends game store all the time, we laugh at ti, he always says it's a different copy but it's always in the same plce so I didn't believe him... wTF!

This casual crap is getting out of hand, ubisoft send more ports! We need to have a balance of crap on this platform.

Oh wait never mind, they want to make Wii exclusive crap that's clearly coded for a Ps2, oh why oh why doesnt it sell compared to 1080Wii?

Well considering 1080Wii looks better than some Xbox360 games and yours looks like err...
By the way I looked into my crystal ball for that one so don't go looking for 1080Wii



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Nintendo Zealot said:

I am really excited for the prince of persia wii spin off. I found this screen shot for the game in Bengabenga's article "The week that was"


thats just looks,weird,im losing faith in the series,though one for ps3/360 looks pretty good,but i dont like the new art style



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brute said:
Nintendo Zealot said:

I am really excited for the prince of persia wii spin off. I found this screen shot for the game in Bengabenga's article "The week that was"


thats just looks,weird,im losing faith in the series,though one for ps3/360 looks pretty good,but i dont like the new art style


It's a joke.

 

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bit of topic. pc version of Call for Heroes: Pompelic Wars review

http://uk.pc.ign.com/objects/844/844489.html

i wouldn't put too much hope in this title



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Being someone who was originally uber-hyped for the Wii back when it was the Revolution, and now being someone who only owns a PS3, it would be easy for me to say that I saw this third party attitude toward the Wii coming from a mile away.

 Stepping into your shoes, I totally understand why you Wii owners are so upset. I would be too.  But I think you guys have to get out of your own shoes and try to see Ubisoft's perspective. Ubisoft is a business, and whenever a company makes a decision they balance potential risk with potential reward. Let's face the facts: the PS360 crowd has a greater population than the Wii crowd. The PS360 crowd has a much higher percentage of hardcore gamers. Therefore, why wouldn't Ubisoft focus on the PS360? Wii fans love to point out how development costs on their system of choice are much lower than on the PS360. While this is true, it is also abundantly clear that the probability of generating high revenue is much greater on the PS360. Put yourself in Ubi's shoes. 



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Shadow of the Colossus, Metal Gear Solid 3, Shenmue, Skies of Arcadia, Chrono Trigger

My 2 nex-gen systems: PS3 and Wii

Prediction Aug '08: We see the PSP2 released fall '09. Graphically, it's basically the same as the current system. UMD drive ditched and replaced by 4-8gb on board flash memory. Other upgrades: 2nd analog nub, touchscreen, blutooth, motion sensor. Design: Flip-style or slider. Size: Think Iphone. Cost: $199. Will be profitable on day 1.

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Cougarman said:
bit of topic. pc version of Call for Heroes: Pompelic Wars review

http://uk.pc.ign.com/objects/844/844489.html

i wouldn't put too much hope in this title

I am glad somebody picked up one the fact that the game looks (like it plays horribly), The point is that Ubi has to put some effort into making games for Wii look playable if the want to sell it... I have nothing against Ubi as a company, but I would be pissed if I owned Ubistock.

 

Edit: @Jman8: I am not upset because there are more than enough games to keep me busy for the next 2 or 3 years already. I am upset that these companies are so ignorant as to why they are seeing losses. (oh, and would you get a Wii if the Shen Mue rumors were true?, off topic PM the answer)



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hey jman you just got me into hating the Wii and buying a PS360 - too bad I can't find a Ps3 aparantly they've been sold out since they've started bundling them with Wii's - but I just go my Xbox360 refurbished out the box, put in some good ol' GTAIV and it RROD on me - my friend sais to kick it twice thats how he fixed his. Gonna find a pic of SSX BLUR cause just yea.



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Soriku said:

Ubisoft responds to Wii-owners upset with quality of titles

Ubisoft is definitely listening to all the negative comments being thrown around about their casual games heading to the Wii. Unfortunately, they didn’t really have anything to say that will make you happy. Huge thanks to MickiFree for the heads up! This is a forum post from Raide, UK Forum Manager…

The true of the matter is this, the Wii is a very different console than what most games developers are used to. The Wii has managed to make a huge success from having games on it that just would not work on a conventional console. The Wii has also managed to increase the market share to a huge group of people that are not that interested in gaming. With Wii Sports, Wii Fit and all manner of games built for family play, Nintendo know who they are marketing for and it is not die hard gamers. If you look at the most successful Wii games, they are not amazing new AAA games, they are predominantly family orientated games/alternative games.

Looking at the current UK games sales for Wii Wii Sales Link, there are not that many traditional games in the top 30. Trends are changing and not everyone wants a new action game, FPS game or epic RPG, sales of the Wii proves that the majority want something different.

Parents who are buying a console for their children do not really care about Prince of Persia, Rainbow Six or Far Cry on the box, they want games that are going to be good for their children and not get them in the local newspaper. Why else would games like Brain Training/Wii Fit/Mario Party sell in the millions if people wanted hardcore games?

Check the Nintendo DS figures in the UK as well. DS Sales Link. Notice whose name is listed there a few times but also notice which games are listed? We make games that will “hopefully” sell to a selected audience. We are a business after all, but Nintendo know which people are their market, just as Sony and Microsoft know who their markets are. Ubisoft have always been aimed at the more mature market (Look at our back catalogue) and in the last few years have started venturing into the casual gaming market. This is because that market now exists, thanks to the rise in popularity of the Wii and DS. The Wii is still a new console and it still has plenty of time to grow, Nintendo know this and Ubisoft know this.

As for Shaun Whites on the Wii, can you at least wait to get some more information and gameplay on it before binning it? Most people have seen a few screenshots and they already hate it because it does not look as good as the 360 etc but to damn a game just because of looks, and without actually playing it is just silly. All I have seen is various forums doing childish Photoshop screens, at least wait to see the game face to face before turning it into a humorous gif.

Link

Ubi should have never responded, they knew they were wrong and now this guy is just pissing even more people off.

His first problem is that he contradicts Ubi. He paints this black and white picture giving the false image that there are no 'core' gamers, and that no one who owns a Wii could possibly be interested in a title that doesn't end in Z.

Contradiction #1: He used a lot of Nintendo franchises (one of which is over a decade old) to pretend that because they sold, other games can't. If that were true, Zelda/Galaxy/Metroid would have bombed in the face of these games. Guess what? They didn't. One type of game cannot cancel out the other.

Contradiction #2: If Ubi really thought that way, Red Steel wouldn't exist. They were pretty enthusiastic to get it on the Wii, and a sequel is underway now. What he's basically saying is that Red Steel 2 has no market, and that the million copies sold of the original don't count. Because that's not what parents care about.

Contradiction #3: They acknowledge that the Wii is different, so their solution is...to dump DS shovelware onto it. Nice.

Really the more I look at this, the more I'm starting to think this reponse is a hoax. It'ls like selected flamebait and ignorance all rolled up into one.



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steven787 said:

Oh, but that is a Wii Screen; and Shaun White Snow Boarding is multiplat too.

 

Here are some good-to-decent selling third party Wii games from the recent World CHart (or atleast with some potential to have good legs).

 

NamePublisherWeekTotal
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games
Sega294,432,741
Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock
Activision302,692,737
Boom Blox
Electronic Arts3128,276
Carnival Games
Take 2391,859,959
Game Party
Midway26808,217
House of the Dead 2 & 3 Return
Sega11370,632
Rayman Raving Rabbids 2
Ubisoft281,198,013
Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga
LucasArts291,241,308
Sega Superstars Tennis
Sega10415,658
Iron Man
Sega4121,362
Pro Evolution Soccer 2008
Konami14492,656
We Ski
Namco Bandai17168,800
Naruto: Clash of the Ninja Revolution
D3 Publisher31576,068
Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles
Capcom281,210,836
Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity
Sega20353,954
Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Capcom521,597,629
Sonic and the Secret Rings
Sega661,359,074
FIFA 08
Electronic Arts35609,153
Deca Sports
Hudson233,698
MySims
Electronic Arts361,076,682
Madden NFL 08
Electronic Arts41693,781
The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian
Disney251,406
Dance Dance Revolution: Hottest Party
Konami35504,693
The Simpsons Game
Electronic Arts30695,414
High School Musical: Sing It!
Konami29822,424
No More Heroes
Ubisoft25309,005
Smarty Pants
Electronic Arts27616,503
Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors
Square Enix46654,465
Bully: Scholarship Edition
Take 212201,755
Okami
Capcom696,375
Boogie
Electronic Arts42317,012
WWE Smackdown vs Raw 2008
THQ29676,074
Cooking Mama: Cook Off
Majesco68559,866
Speed Racer: The Videogame
Warner Bros. Interactive339,486
Karaoke Revolution Presents American Idol Encore
Konami16149,121

Edit2: That looks like a lot of third party potential profits to me. And most of those games look better than Shaun White Snowboarding.


 I dunno, I look at that and see a lot of ports of old games, pretty mediocre casual titles, huge franchises or spin offs of huge franchises. I see nothing there that indicates an obscure title like Beyond Good and Evil would do well on the Wii considering both Okami and No More Heroes weren't all that well received. Even a title like Prince of Persia doesn't seem like a sure bet considering that franchise is no where near as well known as Resident Evil or Sonic.



My Top 5:

Shadow of the Colossus, Metal Gear Solid 3, Shenmue, Skies of Arcadia, Chrono Trigger

My 2 nex-gen systems: PS3 and Wii

Prediction Aug '08: We see the PSP2 released fall '09. Graphically, it's basically the same as the current system. UMD drive ditched and replaced by 4-8gb on board flash memory. Other upgrades: 2nd analog nub, touchscreen, blutooth, motion sensor. Design: Flip-style or slider. Size: Think Iphone. Cost: $199. Will be profitable on day 1.

ClaudeLv250 said:
Soriku said:

Ubisoft responds to Wii-owners upset with quality of titles

Ubisoft is definitely listening to all the negative comments being thrown around about their casual games heading to the Wii. Unfortunately, they didn’t really have anything to say that will make you happy. Huge thanks to MickiFree for the heads up! This is a forum post from Raide, UK Forum Manager…

The true of the matter is this, the Wii is a very different console than what most games developers are used to. The Wii has managed to make a huge success from having games on it that just would not work on a conventional console. The Wii has also managed to increase the market share to a huge group of people that are not that interested in gaming. With Wii Sports, Wii Fit and all manner of games built for family play, Nintendo know who they are marketing for and it is not die hard gamers. If you look at the most successful Wii games, they are not amazing new AAA games, they are predominantly family orientated games/alternative games.

Looking at the current UK games sales for Wii Wii Sales Link, there are not that many traditional games in the top 30. Trends are changing and not everyone wants a new action game, FPS game or epic RPG, sales of the Wii proves that the majority want something different.

Parents who are buying a console for their children do not really care about Prince of Persia, Rainbow Six or Far Cry on the box, they want games that are going to be good for their children and not get them in the local newspaper. Why else would games like Brain Training/Wii Fit/Mario Party sell in the millions if people wanted hardcore games?

Check the Nintendo DS figures in the UK as well. DS Sales Link. Notice whose name is listed there a few times but also notice which games are listed? We make games that will “hopefully” sell to a selected audience. We are a business after all, but Nintendo know which people are their market, just as Sony and Microsoft know who their markets are. Ubisoft have always been aimed at the more mature market (Look at our back catalogue) and in the last few years have started venturing into the casual gaming market. This is because that market now exists, thanks to the rise in popularity of the Wii and DS. The Wii is still a new console and it still has plenty of time to grow, Nintendo know this and Ubisoft know this.

As for Shaun Whites on the Wii, can you at least wait to get some more information and gameplay on it before binning it? Most people have seen a few screenshots and they already hate it because it does not look as good as the 360 etc but to damn a game just because of looks, and without actually playing it is just silly. All I have seen is various forums doing childish Photoshop screens, at least wait to see the game face to face before turning it into a humorous gif.

Link

Ubi should have never responded, they knew they were wrong and now this guy is just pissing even more people off.

His first problem is that he contradicts Ubi. He paints this black and white picture giving the false image that there are no 'core' gamers, and that no one who owns a Wii could possibly be interested in a title that doesn't end in Z.

Contradiction #1: He used a lot of Nintendo franchises (one of which is over a decade old) to pretend that because they sold, other games can't. If that were true, Zelda/Galaxy/Metroid would have bombed in the face of these games. Guess what? They didn't. One type of game cannot cancel out the other.

Contradiction #2: If Ubi really thought that way, Red Steel wouldn't exist. They were pretty enthusiastic to get it on the Wii, and a sequel is underway now. What he's basically saying is that Red Steel 2 has no market, and that the million copies sold of the original don't count. Because that's not what parents care about.

Contradiction #3: They acknowledge that the Wii is different, so their solution is...to dump DS shovelware onto it. Nice.

Really the more I look at this, the more I'm starting to think this reponse is a hoax. It'ls like selected flamebait and ignorance all rolled up into one.


It's not either, it's a Ubi board mod/admin comment.

 

Edit: @ Jman8: This has nothing to do with whether games are ports or casual titles, this has to do with quality.



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