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Ok lets assume Nintendo has this current console generation wrapped up.The next batch of consoles:The "PS4",the "Xbox 720"and the "wii HD" are announced at E3.Who do you think will give the next Nintendo console a run for its money? The PS4,or the 720? Who do think will dominate the market? Keep in mind that;the next Sony console wont be the market outcast due to price.Also the 720 will likely be RROD free,and more appealing to the gaming market.



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Nintendo's demise..? XD
Nintendo have been an extremely profitable company for almost 120 years, not to mention one of the single most succesful companies in the world right now. They're not gonna just get shoved aside and disappear.

But it'll sure be interesting to see in what ways both Microsoft and Sony will try to copy them. :p



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Cheebee said:
Nintendo's demise..? XD
Nintendo have been an extremely profitable company for almost 120 years, not to mention one of the single most succesful companies in the world right now. They're not gonna just get shoved aside and disappear.

But it'll sure be interesting to see in what ways both Microsoft and Sony will try to copy them. :p

I meant as a market leader.

Right. Okay.
Well, erm, in that case... I'd have absolutely no idea. No way to tell. Who's to say Nintendo won't be market leader again?



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I don't think he meant demise and in death, but rather demise as in possible loss of domination or possible loss of first place.

The answer obviously doesn't lie in amount of quality games, because if so, 360 would have likely won this generation alltogether.

I think it lies in what makes the Wii such a success right now. The console that could give Nintendo a run for its money will:

A. Have a competitive price point at launch.

B. Have evolved hardware beyond graphics and HD output. In other words, something innovative to spice up word of mouth.

C. Come bundled with some sort of tech demo to show off that hardware. Preferrably this demo would be fun and exciting.

D. Run a successful marketing campaign for its new console, aimed at casual gamers.

E. Have games aimed at casual gamers, in order to take market share from Nintendo.

F. Have dependable hardware and customer service.

G. Create games that are universally loved in Japan, America, and Others, from their first party efforts.



You can bet your bottom dollar Nintendo will do all of these things. It's basically the DS model, and it's really, really hard for a company to pull it off, because it's relatively risky.

I'll go ahead and fanboy out here and say that as long as the casual market stays interested in gaming, and as long as Nintendo is the only one catering to them, Nintendo will win the console wars.

It's a tough sell, telling someone that the hardcore gaming market is gonna outbuy the casual gaming market in hardware sales, and the fact is, Nintendo is pulling people in from both of those markets.

Things change though, so you never know.



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Cheebee said:
Right. Okay.
Well, erm, in that case... I'd have absolutely no idea. No way to tell. Who's to say Nintendo won't be market leader again?

Its about speculation."Who's to say Nintendo wont be last in the market?"Going by past trends of Playstation domination,i see this thread as a great discussion on the matter.

Who? Pretty much everyone... Sony will, Microsoft will, heck, maybe even Apple will come up with their "casual" based machine. Nintendo is right now holding the majority of the casual market in both handheld and console market.



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Who? Pretty much everyone... Sony will, Microsoft will, heck, maybe even Apple will come up with their "casual" based machine. Nintendo is right now holding the majority of the casual market in both handheld and console market.

Ah, but that opens up the can of worms Sony and MS fanboys despise.

To take top spot, the next consoles will have to enter the casual market in some way. We're already seeing them try to do it.

 

So what is more important to their respective fanbases? Beating Nintendo in sales figures, or having first party games stay true to the hardcore mentallity rather than catering to a casual audience via gimmicky hardware?

You can't have it both ways. If you want Sony to win, you have to want them to enter the casual market full force which could destroy everything you seem to love about them. If you want them to stay strictly hardcore and "win," that might not be possible.

 

So, would you rather see Nintendo fail, yet the PS4 has relatively equal graphics to the PS3, a smaller hard-drive, and an Eye-Toy remote alternative, or would you rather see the PS4 be beaten soundly by Nintendo, with a traditional controller and only new itterations of its traditional franchises, plus several new and exciting next gen IPs?

 

As a Nintendo fan, I can say that the new Nintendo direction was great for me, but I also like a more traditional experience on the Ps3 and 360. I really have the best of both worlds. My favorite console has great new Nintendo games, and is winning by a landslide, but I also can play traditional sequels I love and enjoy the pretty graphics of the HD consoles without investing in their performance emotionally.

 

Also, with Nintendo's brand power in the casual market, I think it'd take more than one generation to wrestle leadership of it from them, even if all those companies you mentioned teamed up to take Nintendo on, together. 



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

Why wouldd Nintendo's next console be HD ? , considering that HD is relevant to the time that it's in.

HD would be to expensive
The consumer wouldn't neccasily want HD

Also taking into account Nintendo would probably need to adopt another high risk/high gain controler ( I don't think they could do the Wii-Mote for another 5-9 years) it further makes Nintendos future unsure.

Microsoft and Sony will adopt new strategies ( well should do ) to embrace the casual and hardcore gamers market , there's no way Nintendo will be left alone to dominate a whole segment of a market with no competition next Gen.

Then there's the possibility of even more competition , microsoft & Sony are both more able the Nintendo to sell consoles at a loss ( Nintendo is very conservative with the money it spends).

If a crystal ball told me that the Wii would come in last Next gen then i'd be the least bit suprised .