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Slimebeast said:
MikeB said:
About 712 million people live in Europe.

The Benelux accounts for about 27 million people.

Other European countries listed by VGChartz seperately:

United Kingdom: 61 million

France: 64 million

Germany: 82 million

Spain: 45 million

Italy: 59 million

Scandinavia: 19 million (if including Iceland and Finland about 25 million)

So "other Europe" on VGChartz probably represents about 376 million people of which the Benelux accounts for about 7% of the 'other Europe' population.

Some strong PS3 countries in 'other Europe' includes Ireland, Portugal, Poland, Austria and Switzerland.

I would wish the "other Europe" section would get a better description so to better understand what's covered and included within what figures.

VGC has 575,000 for PS3 in "Other Europe". Let's say half of those are sales in Benelux since that fits with the number in the article.

Benelux has a pop of 27 million.

Since ioi implied it above we can remove Portugal from your PS3-strong market list (incl in Spain sales).

Ireland + Austria + Switz has pop 20 mill so it's unlikey that more than 200,000 PS3s sold there. That leaves almost 100,000 PS3s for the rest - Greece at pop 11 mill + a bunch of Eastern European countries at 330 mill.

Not so long ago in a thread about Eastern European console sales, we could see that Next-gen console lifetime sales are very small in Poland (pop 38 mill) and Russia (pop 141 mill) - roughly 25K each.

So in conclusion, it all adds up well.

 

 


Some of these are shipped, but there shouldn't be a major difference between shipped and sold by now, maybe 10% or less.

Ireland: 110,000 Mid-April 2008 (Sony)
Russia: 60,000 Mid-April 2008 (Sony)
Poland: 20,000+ through 2007: Forecast 30,000 through Q1 2008 (Sony)

No recent numbers for Switzerland or Austria, but at launch 14,000 were sold in Switzerland and 8,000 in Austria, compared to 54,500 in Germany. Switzerland was around 1/4 of German sales, and Austria was around 1/7. Combined Switzerland & Austria were around 40% of German PS3 launch sales. Through November 2007 34,000 had been sold in Austria. German sales through November aren't available, but were available through October and December, from this I estimate November sales to be in the region 220,000, which would keep Austria close to the original 1/7 ratio compared to Germany. I think estimating Austria/Switzerland PS3 sales at 40% of German PS3 sales should end up with a decent ballpark estimate for those countries.

The other Eastern European countries where PS3 has been released (Romania, Czech Republic: Hungary, Bulgaria, Slovakia, Croatia, Slovenia) have a combined population about 50% larger than Poland, with a roughly comparable GDP per capita. I wouldn't expect PS3 sales in these countries combined to be significantly more than 50% higher than Polish sales.

That leaves Turkey, Greece, Cyprus, and Malta. The latter two have combined populations of less than 1m, so don't add any significant sales. The former two are tricky, but Greece has a similar population and GDP to Portugal, through Q3 2007 PS3 was at 30,000 in Portugal and forecast by Sony to sell 100,000 by the end of the financial year. About the same time PS3 was estimated to be around 20,000 in Greece. I have no data for Turkey at all, but despite a large population, GDP per capita is very low, I'd expect sales to be less than Greece.

Anyway, from this I would very roughly guestimate:

Benelux: 300,000
Austria/Switzerland: 180,000
Eastern Europe: 130,000
Ireland: 110,000
Greece/Turkey: 80,000

Excluding Ireland, the lower down the list you go the bigger the guessing gets, so they could be quite a way out, especially Greece/Turkey, but I think Austria/Switzerland, and Eastern Europe should be in the ballpark.

I  don't feel that PS3 is undertracked in Europe as a whole, but it's possibly overtracked in some of the larger markets, and undertracked in "Other Europe". Many of these countries don't even have sales trackers, so it's basically impossible to track some of these countries accurately.

 



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Netherlands only:

Only 27,000 Blu-Ray players sold this year

Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 10:53 - In the Netherlands in 2008 but 27 thousand separate Blu-Ray Disc players sold. The number of sold Blu-Ray discs is about 300,000.

That told Barbara Schouten Examination of GfK Benelux on Tuesday, when the HD Days in Hilversum. According to Schouten, the demand for Blu-Ray Machine "slower start than expected." "The price for many consumers still too high. They must first recognize the value of. But the question is now beginning to come."

The average price of a Blu-Ray player in the Netherlands is on a downward path. "The average price is now 414 euro, but at the end of this year is already 395 euro," said Schouten. GfK expects the price drop by next year in the Netherlands that 87 thousand pieces players go over the counter. Schouten gave no figures on the sales Blu-Ray equipment for computers.
Playstation

The Playstation 3 is by far the most popular device that Blu-Ray discs can play, said Schouten. "From this we have just 200,000 in Dutch households."

Dutch according to GfK this year bought 300,000 Blu-Ray discs. More than 500 titles are now available on the HD format. Bestsellers were Planet Earth and I Am Legend. According to Schouten helps to promote Blu-Ray Disc that the large chain stores in the coming time with bundle deals, giving consumers both a player and multi-BR films can buy.


Dutch



One of the funniest threads ever hahahhahhahha

I'll remembers this conversartion for a long time hahahhahhahah


Machina-AX said:
This thread made me laugh.

>'Benelux has sold xxx,xxx PS3s'

-'Where's Benelux?'

>'Benelux stands for Belgium, Netherlands and Luxembourg'

-'Where's Benelux?'

>'Look here's a bloody map, find it yourself'

-'Where's Benelux? It's not on there'

>'Yes it is'

-'No it's not'

>'Belgium, Netherlands and Luxembourg are all on there'

-'But Benelux isn't'

>'*sigh*'

-'whatever, come back with a map pointing out Benelux'



Priceless



Ireland is tiny, the Republic only has about 4.3 million.



See as I am a Seinfeld fan, I will quote one of the episode's intro that should fit nicely in this thread and the geographically challenged posters above:

George: What is Holland?
Jerry: What do you mean? It's a country, right next to Belgium.
George: No, that's the Netherlands.
Jerry: Holland is the Netherlands.
George: Then who are the DUtch?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-csGDoSSZyc

For info, I am a real Benelux man. Work in Luxembourg (gotta get the big money!), live in Belgium (cheaper housing) and I studied a year in the Netherlands.




Elaine: I will never understand people

Jerry: They're the worst.

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BKK2 said:

Au Benelux, nous en sommes aujourd'hui à environ 300.000 PS3 installées, indique Ronny Hoekman, directeur marketing Sony Benelux. Nos projections tablent sur un parc de 500.000 à 550.000 unités vendues d'ici fin décembre. Il devrait nous permettre de dépasser la Xbox 360 en septembre

 

He expects a 40% increase of the install base withing 2 months ?



 

Evan Wells (Uncharted 2): I think the differences that you see between any two games has much more to do with the developer than whether it’s on the Xbox or PS3.

Sardauk said:
BKK2 said:

Au Benelux, nous en sommes aujourd'hui à environ 300.000 PS3 installées, indique Ronny Hoekman, directeur marketing Sony Benelux. Nos projections tablent sur un parc de 500.000 à 550.000 unités vendues d'ici fin décembre. Il devrait nous permettre de dépasser la Xbox 360 en septembre

 

He expects a 40% increase of the install base withing 2 months ?

No, the OP is from May. It just got bumped because I've just added some additional data which I didn't think deserved a brand new thread.

 



Yesterday in the Belgian newspaper, numbers from GfK Benelux:

They report that Belgium alone is projected to have 280,000 PS3's sold at the end of 2008.

(There you go, BKK2 ^^)

@ kamil: You can see where it is, especially with the information that was given earlier: Belgium, Luxemburg, Netherlands. So north of France and west of Germany, that entire region.



Thanks papflesje, with 200,000 PS3 sold in Netherlands at the beginning of November it looks like Belgium is bigger than Netherlands for PS3 sales, although with Nov + Dec Netherlands sales it probably won't be a large difference between the two countries.

Also, lol at continued "where is Benelux?" debate.



Hey lazyrider you probably live not so far from my place lol. This world seems tiny when we are on vgchartz. BTW good numbers for benelux, I didn't know that our three countries were so "big" in europe in terms of video games industry.

Would be nice if vgchartz could track benelux alone ^^